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Sep 8, 2019 06:46:55   #
Silent Hammer
 
Tug484 wrote:
It may be PTL and pass the ammunition
someday soon.


If it is, remember that God sees ALL that we think and do. He did before we or anyone else existed. He loves EVERY ONE of us. So, only k**l if you or your loved ones are about to be k**led. Maybe k**l to keep the one who is about to k**l you from committing that sin and crime. Murder is not justified. Self defense IS. Let us pray that it doesn't come to that: brother k*****g brother. But remain IN God, no matter what t***spires. Pray always.

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Sep 8, 2019 06:52:29   #
PeterS
 
Tug484 wrote:
It may be PTL and pass the ammunition
someday soon.

I thought that was what it was now...

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Sep 8, 2019 06:58:06   #
PeterS
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
If it is, remember that God sees ALL that we think and do. He did before we or anyone else existed. He loves EVERY ONE of us. So, only k**l if you or your loved ones are about to be k**led. Maybe k**l to keep the one who is about to k**l you from committing that sin and crime. Murder is not justified. Self defense IS. Let us pray that it doesn't come to that: brother k*****g brother. But remain IN God, no matter what t***spires. Pray always.

Careful what you say. A god that sees all and knows all would also know what each of his creations would do before he even created them. That would place the onus on god for what his creation does; so if he k**led god would know he was going to k**l before he even created him...

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Sep 8, 2019 07:06:55   #
rjoeholl
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you believe there is life on other planets???...Our Universe is sooooo vast,do you think we are alone???


I'm an insomniac and spend my nights sitting outside stargazing and since I live in the country the skies are pretty clear. Well, I have never seen little green men but I have seen some pretty strange things. Lights moving and changing direction or being blocked out by large geometrical shapes and such things. So, I don't know. Either we are not alone or our govt. is far more advanced than they are telling us.

Ric

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Sep 8, 2019 07:22:55   #
flash
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
Watch the video, "The Star of Bethlehem" by a LAWYER who sets out to reconcile astronomical history with The Bible. It will make your heart SWELL, and your AWE of God SOAR. ALL things that happen now were seen by God before they happened in a time span that does not exist. It's impossible for a mind which has grown up on a planet which is one of perhaps billions in a universe which is perhaps not the only one to approach a grasp of God's magnificent wonder. And yet there are people on this little roundish ball who think(?) they're smarter than God. Or that there is no God. Or that when they die, they cease to exist. God Is Love. God Is T***h. And he gives us life to achieve love and t***h. To SEE everlasting value and WORK for it. We Have No Words for God's pure "amazingness"!
Watch the video, "The Star of Bethlehem"... (show quote)

You forgot 1 important thing. JESUS is the way.

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Sep 8, 2019 07:23:34   #
Tug484
 
Silent Hammer wrote:
Watch the video, "The Star of Bethlehem" by a LAWYER who sets out to reconcile astronomical history with The Bible. It will make your heart SWELL, and your AWE of God SOAR. ALL things that happen now were seen by God before they happened in a time span that does not exist. It's impossible for a mind which has grown up on a planet which is one of perhaps billions in a universe which is perhaps not the only one to approach a grasp of God's magnificent wonder. And yet there are people on this little roundish ball who think(?) they're smarter than God. Or that there is no God. Or that when they die, they cease to exist. God Is Love. God Is T***h. And he gives us life to achieve love and t***h. To SEE everlasting value and WORK for it. We Have No Words for God's pure "amazingness"!
Watch the video, "The Star of Bethlehem"... (show quote)



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Sep 8, 2019 07:42:59   #
Silent Hammer
 
PeterS wrote:
Careful what you say. A god that sees all and knows all would also know what each of his creations would do before he even created them. That would place the onus on god for what his creation does; so if he k**led god would know he was going to k**l before he even created him...


And you also be careful. The point of life on Earth is not "life on Earth". Our "being" is not merely physical, but spiritual too. Yes, God "knows" what will happen forever. But to, if you will, send someone to Hell because He KNOWS that person is, say, Charles Manson, would be to deny the dignity with which God CREATED that person. "Puppeteering", so to speak. God gives and has given each of us the knowledge and ability to deal with life as it comes. If we do what Christ prescribed, we will enjoy everlasting bliss after we die. But it's our CHOICE, and God respects us enough to allow us to exercise that choice. That's why Christ told us to address God as "Abba". If you raise a child in your best and most conscientious way, are you responsible for his behavior if he is rational and makes his own decisions as an adult? Would you k**l him as a baby if you knew he would become Adolph Hitler? Or would you want him to change, and do your best as you raised him? God KNEW before eternity that Mary would ACCEPT His offer to be the Mother of His Son, Jesus. Yet He ASKED her to through the Angel Gabriel. Life is OUR choice. God doesn't set-us-up for difficulty. Besides, His measure of success or failure is definitely NOT the same as ours. We may be made in His image, but He definitely isn't "made" in ours.

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Sep 8, 2019 07:58:01   #
Big dog
 
waltmoreno wrote:
I'd simply refer you to the video and book, The Privileged Planet. Authors and professor Guillermo Gonzalez, an astrophysicist and professor Jay Richard set out to prove that Earth was one of only one of many places in the universe where intelligent life existed, or, as Carl Sagan declared, “a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark”. The results of their work and their conclusions are just the opposite. That those same extremely rare conditions that produce a habitable planet, that allow for the existence of complex observers like ourselves, also provide the best overall place for observing. Mathematically, our location is much more critical to the science of observation, than it is to real estate. They established mathematically that while Earth and its local environment provide a delicate, and probably exceedingly rare cradle for complex life, its location is extraordinarily well suited to allow us to peer into the heavens and discover its secrets.

The video blew me away. As a patent holding, former research chemist, I found the science behind it to be compelling.
I'd simply refer you to the video and book, The Pr... (show quote)


I just looked it up on U TUBE and found it. Sounds Awesome. I’ll watch it this evening. Thanks for directing us in that direction.

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Sep 8, 2019 08:03:49   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
PeterS wrote:
Careful what you say. A god that sees all and knows all would also know what each of his creations would do before he even created them. That would place the onus on god for what his creation does; so if he k**led god would know he was going to k**l before he even created him...


The lord says "smight thy enemy" I think that is you.

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Sep 8, 2019 08:05:34   #
Big dog
 
flash wrote:
I believe we are alone and that GOD created the universe so vast that we cannot even fathom just how vast HE is or how long eternity is.


I can’t help but think that it’s extremely selfish of humans to believe that God would create intelligent life Only here on earth.
With all the diversity of life here on earth, and all that room out there in the Universe , it would just seem silly to waste all that real estate.
But then again, God only knows!

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Sep 8, 2019 08:46:33   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you believe there is life on other planets???...Our Universe is sooooo vast,do you think we are alone???

I Don't Think It Makes A Bit Of Difference
The Vastness Of Space Being The Reason
No One Is Coming Here, Has Been Here, Or Will Be Here
We Will Never Make It There Either
And There Can't Be A Round Trip

They Can Gab It Up All They Want
But I Don't See A Permanently Manned Station On Mars
Let Alone A Pointless Colony

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Sep 8, 2019 09:07:00   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Big dog wrote:
I can’t help but think that it’s extremely selfish of humans to believe that God would create intelligent life Only here on earth.
With all the diversity of life here on earth, and all that room out there in the Universe , it would just seem silly to waste all that real estate.
But then again, God only knows!



The dialogue in these types of discussions reminds me of 1 Corinthians 3:19, "The wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight, it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness." It's fun to let our minds wonder but the Creator has provided us with a lot of knowledge which is obvious if we just look for it. I'm not a follower of Carl Sagan but I doubt if he speaks much of intelligent design, at least favorably. Well, it's time to head for Church. Have a good week.

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Sep 8, 2019 10:01:43   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Big dog wrote:
It would only make sense that life exists elsewhere. Question is, is there Intelligent life out there.?
James Michener’s book “SPACE “ concluded with just this question.
The last chapter of the book is worth reading. Apparently this question about extra terrestrial intelligent life was posited by the scientific method, based on our own life.
1) how long it took for intelligent life on earth to come about.
2) how old our planet is.
3) how old is our galaxy
4) how many type of class M planets are
there.
5) how many class M planets have there
ever likely to have existed.
6) the likelihood that other intelligent life would not have k**led them selves or simply died out (due to asteroid impact, desease, war, home sun going nova, etc,)
There was more to it all in the book but I believe that the conclusion was that the likelihood of intelligent life in our galaxy stated that there are possibly 13.
This was done by NASA scientists.
I would recommend the book, though it’s a bit of a long read, as so many of his books are. But well worth it.
It would only make sense that life exists elsewher... (show quote)



You have to differentiate between life and intelligent life. Do you really think there is intelligent life here on earth?


But I have read these great discoveries of planets elsewhere that could sustain life. They're always based on some instantaneous flutter of a distant star from some exoplanet passing in front of it. I liken that to identifying someone from ten miles away in the moonlight.

They've even supposed of life existing on one of Saturn's moons from the possible existence of water azt one time. The steps from water to developing hydrocarbons for organic chemicals is akin the a hurricane passing through a junk yard and leaving a 747 behind. Then from organic chemicals to amino acids to life is doing it again and again and again. Possible? Yes. Likely?

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Sep 8, 2019 10:26:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
I believe that Liberals/some Dems are aliens from Mars..That is why they are soooo scary!!!!

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Sep 8, 2019 10:34:16   #
trucksterbud
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you believe there is life on other planets???...Our Universe is sooooo vast,do you think we are alone???


Of course we're not alone. Haven't been since the beginning of time. Human minds are just too small to accept that.

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