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Now trump is going to STEAL from the military he claims he loves
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Sep 3, 2019 17:51:51   #
factnotfiction
 
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump is stealing from his military, taking funds that had been ear marked for military construction projects both in the states and abroad.

Woe be to trump and his supporters if any American troops are k**led because of trumps stealing funds that could have been used for security

But of course, trump will tell lies at his next rally, and his rabid base will cheer, and mug for the cameras, and swear he is telling the t***h.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/trump-administration-prepares-to-raid-military-projects-for-border-wall-1479981

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Sep 3, 2019 17:54:19   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
factnotfiction wrote:
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump is stealing from his military, taking funds that had been ear marked for military construction projects both in the states and abroad.

Woe be to trump and his supporters if any American troops are k**led because of trumps stealing funds that could have been used for security

But of course, trump will tell lies at his next rally, and his rabid base will cheer, and mug for the cameras, and swear he is telling the t***h.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/trump-administration-prepares-to-raid-military-projects-for-border-wall-1479981
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump ... (show quote)




I'm worried, do you have cheese to compliment your whine?

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Sep 3, 2019 18:01:34   #
factnotfiction
 
byronglimish wrote:
I'm worried, do you have cheese to compliment your whine?




Why can't you understand that trump is trying to replace nixon as America's number 1 crook?

But as always, you trumpkins got nothing but silly, lame personal attack and childish insults

So typical of trump supporters, poorly educated, old, mean, and fearful

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Sep 3, 2019 18:26:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
byronglimish wrote:
I'm worried, do you have cheese to compliment your whine?


Gee we won't be able to build more schools for the Taliban (soon) in Afghanistan like dumbass Bush and Obama have. The DOD wastes so much money I am all for diverting some of its funds to the border. That's a problem we can actually impact.

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Sep 3, 2019 18:43:26   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Gee we won't be able to build more schools for the Taliban (soon) in Afghanistan like dumbass Bush and Obama have. The DOD wastes so much money I am all for diverting some of its funds to the border. That's a problem we can actually impact.


Absolutely agree!!!

Our borders are our weakness, foolish people say otherwise.

I'm for reallocating monies from most anywhere to shore up our borders.

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Sep 3, 2019 19:45:59   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
factnotfiction wrote:
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump is stealing from his military, taking funds that had been ear marked for military construction projects both in the states and abroad.

Woe be to trump and his supporters if any American troops are k**led because of trumps stealing funds that could have been used for security

But of course, trump will tell lies at his next rally, and his rabid base will cheer, and mug for the cameras, and swear he is telling the t***h.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/trump-administration-prepares-to-raid-military-projects-for-border-wall-1479981
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump ... (show quote)


I was in the military and spent more than a few years working for the Federal Government. I tell you this in order for you to understand that I was a project manager who had a very large budget. I am not defending anyone when I tell you that the month of September managers go on spending sprees...new computers, desk, coffee pots....wh**ever to spend any funds they have left in their budget, in other words to zero out accounts by 30 September. This is not isolated to just civilian run projects, but cross the line to all the services. Billions of dollars are spent, even if the bought item were recently replaced and the new item will sit in boxes, eventually they may sit on a desk or be eliminated during inventory control. This is doubly true in DC. The Pentagon simply scooped up these dollars this year to pay for part of the wall, in return, two things will happen; first the budget for next year will include funds to replace the 3.8 billion returned to the Fed and the second thing, no projects are being scrapped they are just pushed 120 days. Also, be aware when that wall is built, the military can withdraw the forces now guarding the border. So, don't worry the planned new dog houses for the working dogs at GITMO will still be built and the new hospital wing in Afghanistan will still be built. No military or civilian employee will go without pay. Indeed, the Pentagon could EASTLY give up twice this amount without detrimental affect on troops or families.

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Sep 3, 2019 19:53:06   #
son of witless
 
byronglimish wrote:
I'm worried, do you have cheese to compliment your whine?


Do mice have cheese ?

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Sep 3, 2019 19:56:41   #
factnotfiction
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I was in the military and spent more than a few years working for the Federal Government. I tell you this in order for you to understand that I was a project manager who had a very large budget. I am not defending anyone when I tell you that the month of September managers go on spending sprees...new computers, desk, coffee pots....wh**ever to spend any funds they have left in their budget, in other words to zero out accounts by 30 September. This is not isolated to just civilian run projects, but cross the line to all the services. Billions of dollars are spent, even if the bought item were recently replaced and the new item will sit in boxes, eventually they may sit on a desk or be eliminated during inventory control. This is doubly true in DC. The Pentagon simply scooped up these dollars this year to pay for part of the wall, in return, two things will happen; first the budget for next year will include funds to replace the 3.8 billion returned to the Fed and the second thing, no projects are being scrapped they are just pushed 120 days. Also, be aware when that wall is built, the military can withdraw the forces now guarding the border. So, don't worry the planned new dog houses for the working dogs at GITMO will still be built and the new hospital wing in Afghanistan will still be built. No military or civilian employee will go without pay.
I was in the military and spent more than a few ye... (show quote)





You are right about the government spending/budgeting/spending process. As to whether you are correct in the rest of your assessment remains to be seen.
However, the fact that trump and his administration can be exposed by various media sources as 'raiding' the military budget is not very good optics going into an e******n year.
You know how short the memory span is for most v**ers, r or d, so the latest shiny object is what the political advisers always focus on.
And with the usual trump bluster and rhetoric, and repetition of his message, no matter how dated it becomes, when charges of stealing from the military or fema are brought up, and they will be, he or his congress critters will have to defend those positions, allowing opponents to go on t0 the next crisis

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Sep 3, 2019 20:05:56   #
bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah
 
factnotfiction wrote:
Why can't you understand that trump is trying to replace nixon as America's number 1 crook?

But as always, you trumpkins got nothing but silly, lame personal attack and childish insults

So typical of trump supporters, poorly educated, old, mean, and fearful


I have seen more childish posts from you recently, than anyone else on here. Name calling etc. The problem with you liberals, is you're afraid the wall is going to work, and God forbid that was Donald Trump that gor it done. Now I'm no "Trumpkin" as you call them, in fact, I can't really stand the guy, but I'm all in favor of protecting our Country!! So grow up, and discuss things in an adult manner, or please just go away.

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Sep 3, 2019 20:21:39   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
factnotfiction wrote:
You are right about the government spending/budgeting/spending process. As to whether you are correct in the rest of your assessment remains to be seen.
However, the fact that trump and his administration can be exposed by various media sources as 'raiding' the military budget is not very good optics going into an e******n year.
You know how short the memory span is for most v**ers, r or d, so the latest shiny object is what the political advisers always focus on.
And with the usual trump bluster and rhetoric, and repetition of his message, no matter how dated it becomes, when charges of stealing from the military or fema are brought up, and they will be, he or his congress critters will have to defend those positions, allowing opponents to go on t0 the next crisis
You are right about the government spending/budget... (show quote)


With no disrespect to you, but I don't think our President is interested in popularity contests. What more can the media accuse him of doing? Not much. So, he is doing what he thinks will cut down on illegal border crossings which will have a positive domino effect for our nation. If FEMA or the military issue is raised, he can point to reduction of deportation which cost US citizens over $3,000 per person......adding to the millions spent on i******s who are "hiding" in plain sight in sanctuary cities. Also, he is cementing his base core by moving heaven and earth to fulfill his campaign promises....and doing what no president has done for decades (keeping promises that benefit all US citizens irrespective of color or place of origin), his base is growing especially in legal immigrants and in the black communities. And while the media is fixated on this, he is moving on to the next promise he made....and that just may be health care.

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Sep 3, 2019 22:04:19   #
Lonewolf
 
[quote=Pennylynn]With no disrespect to you, but I don't think our President is interested in popularity contests. What more can the media accuse him of doing? Not much. So, he is doing what he thinks will cut down on illegal border crossings which will have a positive domino effect for our nation. If FEMA or the military issue is raised, he can point to reduction of deportation which cost US citizens over $3,000 per person......adding to the millions spent on i******s who are "hiding" in plain sight in sanctuary cities. Also, he is cementing his base core by moving heaven and earth to fulfill his campaign promises....and doing what no president has done for decades (keeping promises that benefit all US citizens irrespective of color or place of origin), his base is growing especially in legal immigrants and in the black communities. And while the media is fixated on this, he is moving on to the next promise he made....and that just may be health care.[/quote

If you think republicans will come up with health care your wrong most likely you get another tax cut for the rich

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Sep 3, 2019 22:05:54   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Shut up. Quit embarrassing yourself. Dumbest poster on here. [quote=Lonewolf][quote=Pennylynn]With no disrespect to you, but I don't think our President is interested in popularity contests. What more can the media accuse him of doing? Not much. So, he is doing what he thinks will cut down on illegal border crossings which will have a positive domino effect for our nation. If FEMA or the military issue is raised, he can point to reduction of deportation which cost US citizens over $3,000 per person......adding to the millions spent on i******s who are "hiding" in plain sight in sanctuary cities. Also, he is cementing his base core by moving heaven and earth to fulfill his campaign promises....and doing what no president has done for decades (keeping promises that benefit all US citizens irrespective of color or place of origin), his base is growing especially in legal immigrants and in the black communities. And while the media is fixated on this, he is moving on to the next promise he made....and that just may be health care.[/quote

If you think republicans will come up with health care your wrong most likely you get another tax cut for the rich[/quote]

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Sep 3, 2019 22:58:21   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
factnotfiction wrote:
You are right about the government spending/budgeting/spending process. As to whether you are correct in the rest of your assessment remains to be seen.
However, the fact that trump and his administration can be exposed by various media sources as 'raiding' the military budget is not very good optics going into an e******n year.
You know how short the memory span is for most v**ers, r or d, so the latest shiny object is what the political advisers always focus on.
And with the usual trump bluster and rhetoric, and repetition of his message, no matter how dated it becomes, when charges of stealing from the military or fema are brought up, and they will be, he or his congress critters will have to defend those positions, allowing opponents to go on t0 the next crisis
You are right about the government spending/budget... (show quote)


If you currently believe ANYTHING FORM THE MSM INCLUDING A PORTION OF FOX NEWS, then you are really yin trouble. The MSM has been lying to us for decades. It's just out now in the open thanks to President Trump. All he is and has been doing is to open the eyes of the American Citizenry to their malfeasance and quite probably propaganda as well. If one were to actually look and listen to the preposterous positions that have been put forth by the MSM specifically over the 12 years you would understand or at least have the ability to read between the lines as to what is fact versus fiction. Be more open minded and you will se what me and so many others here have been saying.

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Sep 4, 2019 08:32:59   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
byronglimish wrote:
Absolutely agree!!!

Our borders are our weakness, foolish people say otherwise.

I'm for reallocating monies from most anywhere to shore up our borders.


The wall will not shore up the border more border agents to stop the tunnels to inspect trucks etc etc etc

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Sep 4, 2019 09:16:18   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
factnotfiction wrote:
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump is stealing from his military, taking funds that had been ear marked for military construction projects both in the states and abroad.

Woe be to trump and his supporters if any American troops are k**led because of trumps stealing funds that could have been used for security

But of course, trump will tell lies at his next rally, and his rabid base will cheer, and mug for the cameras, and swear he is telling the t***h.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/trump-administration-prepares-to-raid-military-projects-for-border-wall-1479981
As if stealing from FEMA wasn't enough, now trump ... (show quote)


This should make you feel better:
Pentagon diverts $3.6 billion in military construction funds to build Trump's border wall
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper has authorized the diverting of $3.6 billion in military construction funds for 11 wall projects on the southern border with Mexico, according to defense officials and a letter from Esper to the Senate Armed Services Committee, which has been obtained by CNN.
In his letter, Esper told Congress he has "determined that 11 military construction projects along the international border with Mexico, with an estimated total cost of $3.6 billion, are necessary to support the use of the armed forces in connection with the national emergency."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/03/politics/esper-military-construction-funds-border-wall/index.html

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