Kevyn

Brexit was a fools move and has already devalued the Pound by over 25% not to be outdone, a minority of gullible American v**ers played Putins trump card and anointed the I***t Pumpkinfuhrer. Now the Brits put a buffoon of their own in number ten. He is a self serving half bright gasbag but unlike Trump can speak in complete sentences and is on occasion witty. Putin must piss himself laughing looking at what he has done to our great nations.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

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I take exception to your statement "Brexit was a fools move". While there most certainly will be problems and issues to be worked out, the key element of Brexit revolves around whether the people of Britain want to retain their independence, or be ruled by EU bureaucrats. I read a comment by someone named "Felix the Cat" summarizing the reasons for Brexit that I found pretty compelling. I'd be interested in your take on the following:

Reasons why the UK must leave the EU :
1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.


2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.


3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.


4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)


5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.


6: The UK will adopt 100% of wh**ever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.


7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.


8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.


9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.


10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights


11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights


12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 


13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation


14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent


15: The UK loses control of its taxation policy


16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them


17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths


18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar and others


19: The UK loses control of its judicial system


20: The UK loses control of its international policy


21: The UK loses full control of its national policy


22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right


23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program


24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction


25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty


26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020


Iliamna1

In other words, they desire to retain their autonomy and national identity, freedom and independence rather than become s***es of the g*******t elites. Hmmmm, maybe theyre on to something.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

The v**e by the British people to leave the European Union sent shockwaves across the continent of Europe and beyond. It is the most significant event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and may well mark the beginning of the end of the European Union as we have known it. The European Union is not the vigorous entity that the United Kingdom joined in 1973. Then the European Economic Community had the legitimacy of the strong economic growth which characterised the years after the second world war - lestrente glorieuses. The EU of 2016 by contrast has been hit by a series of extremely damaging blows: the economic crisis of 2008; the self-inflicted damage from failure to deal with the flaws of the euro following the crisis; Russian success in upsetting the post-cold war balance of power in Europe; terrorist attacks from ISIS and immense migration flows into the Union. All of these blows have created powerful anti-establishment, anti-EU constituencies across the continent, not just in the UK. The Brexit v**e is likely to empower these constituencies further undermining support for the EU. In addition, the process of British exit from the Union is likely to fragment Union solidarity, opening up fissures that will be difficult to close.
https://www.cidob.org/publicaciones/serie_de_publicacion/notes_internacionals/n1_159/brexit_causes_and_consequences

Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
The withdrawal agreement covered a range of things including:
the rights of EU citizens in the UK and British citizens in the EU
how much money the UK was to pay the EU (widely thought to be £39bn)
the backstop for the Irish border
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

vernon

Yes and if the i***ts win this thing we will be looking at being like the Brits in a couple of years.

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

Explain what you mean with your statement. Are we part of the EU?