factnotfiction

There is a debate in congress about changing the e*******l college process from the 'winner take all' to proportional distribution of delegates.

The argument is that all v**es should count in p**********l e******ns, so trump supporters in California feel they get shut out by the current winner take all.

And the same argument is presented in the so called 'purple states' that tend to flip more frequently.

So what do you think the right way to proceed?

Winner take all or Proportional

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

This is not a Left or Right issue. This is what is written in the Constitution.

EmilyD

EmilyD

Are you talking about split e*******l v**es like they have in Maine and Nebraska? Maine adapted this rule before the 1972 p**********l e******n, while Nebraska enacted it starting with the 1992 e******n. A split has occurred once in each of these states. In 2008, Barack Obama won Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District (Omaha and its suburbs), gaining a Democratic e*******l v**e in that state for the first time since 1964. In 2016, Donald T***p w*n Maine's 2nd Congressional District, which covers most of the state away from Portland, Augusta and nearby coastal areas. Statewide, Maine last v**ed Republican in 1988. This would be beneficial in other states that have large cities (mostly on the coasts), but the rural parts of the states are mostly conservative. For instance New York is a "winner take all" state. NY City is largely liberal, but the rest of the state are mostly farmers and small business people who usually v**e conservative, so they would be better represented with a split e*******l college. Same with all the other large states that have big liberal cities, but a lot of conservative rural communities as well.

factnotfiction

That was the purpose for the question, since there are valid reasons to consider in making a change to the process.

The most important thing is that ALL v**es should be counted and the v**es should count.

As you pointed out, two states split the v**e and more are considering that policy

EmilyD

Both Democrats and Republicans are not happy about the outcome in Maine and Nebraska. That's why there are only two of them. I suspect they will go back to what the founders proposed.

EmilyD

Those two states didn't "split the v**e"....they split the e*****rate.

Read the Constitution, FNF....then come back and argue this. You look foolish if you don't do that.

EmilyD

double post.

EmilyD

All v**es do count. You just don't like how they are counted.

Help!

EmilyD

EmilyD

wow....I seem to be countering myself all over the place here....

This page allows you submit a reply in a topic.

Directly below, you'll see the preview of what your post would look like. And below that, you'll see the text form to enter the content of the post.

Enter the text, and then click "Preview" button below the text form to preview any changes you've made. Once ready to submit the post, click the "Send" button.

You can attach files or pictures to your posts. To do so, use the form at the bottom of the page. You can add or remove files and preview them before submitting the post.

But if you decide to attach any files to your post, you must click "Preview" to save the post's text before attaching files. Otherwise, your text will be discarded and you will have to type it in again.

Also, there is a shortcut to submit posts: Ctrl+Enter. This is the equivalent of clicking the "Send" button.

(hide this notice)

EmilyD

I don't know how to answer this kind of announcement. Any advce?

EmilyD

I've been hacked...but ...

Nice try... but you have to admit, I tell the t***h....

And you don't.

factnotfiction....thinks he/she can hack.....yuk..yuk.

EmilyD

Interesting way to redirect the FACT that you are wrong again. This is how a TDS person tries to manipulate...hilarious!

PLEASE NOTE, PEOPLE THAT FACTNOTFICTION CAN GET INTO YOUR ACCOUNTS HERE IN OPP...ANYONE WANT TO TELL ADMIN?

I CAN'T BECAUSE HE/SHE BLOCKED ME....

Please note people that FNF can get into your accounts....

EmilyD

You haven't answered me, FNF:

Are you talking about split e*******l v**es like they have in Maine and Nebraska? Maine adapted this rule before the 1972 p**********l e******n, while Nebraska enacted it starting with the 1992 e******n. A split has occurred once in each of these states. In 2008, Barack Obama won Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District (Omaha and its suburbs), gaining a Democratic e*******l v**e in that state for the first time since 1964. In 2016, Donald T***p w*n Maine's 2nd Congressional District, which covers most of the state away from Portland, Augusta and nearby coastal areas. Statewide, Maine last v**ed Republican in 1988. This would be beneficial in other states that have large cities (mostly on the coasts), but the rural parts of the states are mostly conservative. For instance New York is a "winner take all" state. NY City is largely liberal, but the rest of the state are mostly farmers and small business people who usually v**e conservative, so they would be better represented with a split e*******l college. Same with all the other large states that have big liberal cities, but a lot of conservative rural communities as well.