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The true face of islam
Apr 24, 2013 22:24:36   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
For those of you who think that Muslims are peaceable, law abiding people, this is the result when they have superior numbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

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Apr 24, 2013 23:19:02   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
memBrain wrote:
For those of you who think that Muslims are peaceable, law abiding people, this is the result when they have superior numbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg


I fear that this will become more and more prevalent. As their numbers grow, and our gov't becomes further stifled by Political Correctness. While critizing us for denying them their 1st Amendment rights, this is how they react when others try to exercise their rights. The shame is the attitude of the police. They knew if they did not side with the Muslims they would soon have a full scale r**t on their hands. This is disasterous for America. They will continue this behavior as long as we will allow it to happen. They use our heritage and love of freedom to displace our beliefs with their corrupt and murderous religion.

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Apr 24, 2013 23:23:51   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Unclet wrote:
I fear that this will become more and more prevalent. As their numbers grow, and our gov't becomes further stifled by Political Correctness. While critizing us for denying them their 1st Amendment rights, this is how they react when others try to exercise their rights. The shame is the attitude of the police. They knew if they did not side with the Muslims they would soon have a full scale r**t on their hands. This is disasterous for America. They will continue this behavior as long as we will allow it to happen. They use our heritage and love of freedom to displace our beliefs with their corrupt and murderous religion.
I fear that this will become more and more prevale... (show quote)


The problem is Sharia. Muslims see Sharia as above the laws of government. Through Sharia, it is a deathly offense to proselytize a Muslim. Likewise, it is a deathly offense to be a Muslim the converts to another religion, but especially if they convert to Christianity. The Muslims in that video see it as their right to "stone" those Christians.

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Apr 24, 2013 23:41:52   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
memBrain wrote:
The problem is Sharia. Muslims see Sharia as above the laws of government. Through Sharia, it is a deathly offense to proselytize a Muslim. Likewise, it is a deathly offense to be a Muslim the converts to another religion, but especially if they convert to Christianity. The Muslims in that video see it as their right to "stone" those Christians.


In the final analysis - that video is a true depiction of tenets of Islam. The h**e on the faces of the very young was the most disturbing part. They are totally indoctrinated, and from their actions, radicalized. There is no doubt, some of them would have k**led if they had the opportunity.

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Apr 24, 2013 23:47:18   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Indeed. One of the things I found most memorable (though I'm ashamed to say that I forget the source) was the story of one Islamic convert to Christianity. He describes how he learned at an early age that Muslim society is one of conflict. Brother against brother. Brothers gains their father. The family against the community. The community against the world. It is a culture of violence. That violence is directly supported by the Qur'an and the Clerical writings. America is doomed if our politicians keep thinking that we can reason with them. Islam allows them to make treaties only to break them at will...so long as those treaties are with non-Muslims. How can you negotiate with a culture like that?!

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Apr 25, 2013 00:11:55   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
memBrain wrote:
For those of you who think that Muslims are peaceable, law abiding people, this is the result when they have superior numbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg


Vlad the Impaier knew how to pacify Muslims.

PEACEFUL MUSLIMS
PEACEFUL MUSLIMS...

VLAD THE IMPALER
VLAD THE IMPALER...

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Apr 25, 2013 00:27:33   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
memBrain wrote:
Indeed. One of the things I found most memorable (though I'm ashamed to say that I forget the source) was the story of one Islamic convert to Christianity. He describes how he learned at an early age that Muslim society is one of conflict. Brother against brother. Brothers gains their father. The family against the community. The community against the world. It is a culture of violence. That violence is directly supported by the Qur'an and the Clerical writings. America is doomed if our politicians keep thinking that we can reason with them. Islam allows them to make treaties only to break them at will...so long as those treaties are with non-Muslims. How can you negotiate with a culture like that?!
Indeed. One of the things I found most memorable ... (show quote)


You can't, and therein lies the problem. To deal with them you cannot have any weakness, or flaws, they will exploit them. We will have be like them and use their beliefs against them. Just as they do us, they ultimately respect strength. They do not fear death, if it is a good one in service to Allah. However, there are deaths that they fear, we need to exploit that.

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Apr 25, 2013 23:48:56   #
woodarch
 
How sad that a "religion" teaches the destruction of another. Supposedly Christians, Jews, and Muslims believe in the same God. The differences are in the writings of the respective prophets. If things keep going the way they are, it will be holy war all over again like it was in the dark ages. When does our government go back to a priority of Christian values and respect?
Reverse the scenario of that video and picture the field day MSNBC or CNN would have had if that was christians stoning a group of Muslims with banners?

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Apr 26, 2013 00:41:09   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
woodarch wrote:
How sad that a "religion" teaches the destruction of another. Supposedly Christians, Jews, and Muslims believe in the same God. The differences are in the writings of the respective prophets. If things keep going the way they are, it will be holy war all over again like it was in the dark ages. When does our government go back to a priority of Christian values and respect?
Reverse the scenario of that video and picture the field day MSNBC or CNN would have had if that was christians stoning a group of Muslims with banners?
How sad that a "religion" teaches the de... (show quote)


You are wrong. We do not believe in the same God. Jews, Christians and Messianics (Messianics are Christians and Jews who have returned to first century teachings. It restores the Jewish component of Christianity back where it belongs.) all believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The only difference in our beliefs is that Christians and Messianics believe the Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah foretold by the prophets. The Jews reject that he is their Messiah because he didn't fulfill all their prophecies.

What they don't understand is that there are two separate Messianic Prophecies. There are the prophecies of Meshiach (Messiah) ben Joseph, the servant king. These are the prophecies that Yeshua fulfilled. And there are the prophecies of Meshiach ben Dovid (David) the warrior king. These are the prophecies that Yeshua will fulfill upon his return. That return is getting very close. But because these prophecies have not been fulfilled, the Jews reject Him. His return is contingent upon the Israeli nation collectively repenting to God and exclaiming "Baruch Haba B'Shem Adonai!" (Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!) That will be the sign of His appearing.

The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob has a name. It is believed to be Yahweh by some, and Yahovah (Jehovah) by others. The Jews refer to Him as HaShem (The Name). Regardless, His name in Hebrew is (YHWH/YHVH) יהוה

Islam shares a common history. They harken back to Abraham through Ishmael. However, they do no share the same God. They follow Allah, a moon god and god of war. Their founding document did not exist for almost six centuries after Yeshua founded The Way.

("Jesus answered, “I am the way and the t***h and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) Today we are called Christians or Messianic Believers. It is this one verse that we say with confidence that Yeshua is the only path to salvation, for only He has died for the sins of the world and was resurrected in fulfillment of prophecy. Only He has the power to forgive sin.)

Sorry for the interruption from the topic. Back to Islam. If you look closely at the Qur'an and the clerical teachings you will see that it is almost completely antithetical to the Bible. One of the most controversial books of the Bible, Revelations, is almost mirrored precisely in the teachings of Islam. Keep in mind that this mirroring means that the one Christians see as the Anti-Christ, the Muslims see as the Mahdi or Twelfth Imam. The destroyer written in Revelations is the Islamic savior. This puts Islam in direct contention with both Christianity and Judaism. The stories told in both teachings are identical with two notable exceptions, the side of the players as I mentioned above, and who wins in the end. There will never be peace with Islam.

Sorry for the lesson, but I felt it necessary. Unfortunately, this is one area where religion AND politics are unavoidable.

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