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Aug 23, 2019 21:16:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
People are so clueless about the realities of nuclear weapons, using them becomes a game of chess where they are deployed strategically, nobody wanting to wipe anyone off the map except for truly unhinged morons like Trump and Kim.

Statements like yours are cluelessly cringe worthy.



There are limits to how far we will let someone go. We have been within seconds of using on more occasions than you could be allowed to know. It is YOUR clueless ness which I find amusing. But how COULD you know, right?

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Aug 24, 2019 03:49:48   #
DogLover99
 
woodguru wrote:
We made almost two decades of mistakes rewarding manufacturers for taking manufacturing over to China. Instead of paying them hundreds of millions in subsidies and tax breaks to move they should have been penalized and heavily taxed for moving.


China spends over $300,000,000.00 a year lobbying our government and politicians to sell out our country and they have done a damn fine job. China went from the country that made crappy toys and stole their way to a world power and our government took the money and looked the other way. Pelosi, Feinstein and Biden just to mention a few who have gotten rich dealing with China. Although, it was H****r B***n, Joe's sonj that got rich from his daddy pulling strings with China.

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Aug 24, 2019 10:04:25   #
Seth
 
DogLover99 wrote:
China spends over $300,000,000.00 a year lobbying our government and politicians to sell out our country and they have done a damn fine job. China went from the country that made crappy toys and stole their way to a world power and our government took the money and looked the other way. Pelosi, Feinstein and Biden just to mention a few who have gotten rich dealing with China. Although, it was H****r B***n, Joe's sonj that got rich from his daddy pulling strings with China.


To all too many Democrats, politics is less a calling to serve America than it is a vehicle by which, through graft and corruption, they can "become" rich.

Meanwhile, as they make their fortunes on the backs of the American taxpayer, they acquire v**es by bashing "the rich," giving away said taxpayer's hard earned money and baselessly accusing their opposition of being corrupt.

They turn a blind eye to one another's corrupt practices, which are an open secret between them, because they don't want the v**ers to get an in-your-face look at the details of their ongoing "bonanza."

Those Democrat v**ers who are smart enough to see what's going on deny it, because, it seems, corruption is part and parcel of the Democrats' ethos.

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Aug 24, 2019 13:20:33   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
woodguru wrote:
People are so clueless about the realities of nuclear weapons, using them becomes a game of chess where they are deployed strategically, nobody wanting to wipe anyone off the map except for truly unhinged morons like Trump and Kim.

Statements like yours are cluelessly cringe worthy.


Says a fool. jerks like you feed complacently into our world, like in 1941, we laid in bed one Sunday morning and the world turned to s**t as Jap blow the lives of young boys to bits. In the end 160 million lives dead. Your Mr. FDR had our pants down around our ankles.
You should understand clueless it's you.

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Aug 24, 2019 16:32:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
People are so clueless about the realities of nuclear weapons, using them becomes a game of chess where they are deployed strategically, nobody wanting to wipe anyone off the map except for truly unhinged morons like Trump and Kim.

Statements like yours are cluelessly cringe worthy.


Look woody, it's like this. WE have our fingers on the triggers of what could wipe a huge part of the world off the map. It's call MADD. Russia also does. All the others are just wanna be's. That's a finger on the trigger. Get it!!??

China goes too far and we have that option. They don't know just how far they can go and Trump adds the wild card into that. Obama was obvious. He lacked the balls or the crazy for anyone to think he would insist upon fairness in trading!!!

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Aug 24, 2019 16:34:39   #
Seth
 
MR Mister wrote:
Says a fool. jerks like you feed complacently into our world, like in 1941, we laid in bed one Sunday morning and the world turned to s**t as Jap blow the lives of young boys to bits. In the end 160 million lives dead. Your Mr. FDR had our pants down around our ankles.
You should understand clueless it's you.




This malady suffered by useful i***ts throughout history continues to rear its complacent head and create otherwise avoidable large scale "collateral damage," then said useful i***ts inevitably defend their useful idiocy by blaming others.

These people are indeed inevitabilities, the curves in a never-ending vicious circle we would all be better off without.

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Aug 24, 2019 18:39:00   #
waltmoreno
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Look woody, it's like this. WE have our fingers on the triggers of what could wipe a huge part of the world off the map. It's call MADD. Russia also does. All the others are just wanna be's. That's a finger on the trigger. Get it!!??

China goes too far and we have that option. They don't know just how far they can go and Trump adds the wild card into that. Obama was obvious. He lacked the balls or the crazy for anyone to think he would insist upon fairness in trading!!!


Bingo nwtk2007! I would only add that Reagan rejected the MAD (mutually assured destruction) idea of the Cold War era. And came up with Star Wars, the idea of a nuclear umbrella to shield the US from nuclear attack by the USSR. Even though we really didn’t have the technology or even the money for such a program. But that stroke of genius was the end of the USSR and they became the USSAren’t.
Trump is now in a battle of wits with China’s leader in a high stakes poker game.
And no poker hand beats a pair of balls in that type of contest. Trump’s willing to bet our free economy against China’s c*******t economy and with good reason. Like Reagan who believed that Russia’s economy was about the equivalent of California’s, Trump is willing to go toe-to-toe with China. He knows, even they pour most of their economy into their military, that the only way they can beat us economically is to do better than what we already do - encourage free market capitalism. And that ain’t gonna happen anytime soon with China.
Tariffs will take a toll in the short run but they’re just a speed bump in the long run.
America First! Keep America Great! Trump 2020!

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Aug 24, 2019 19:13:52   #
DogLover99
 
Seth wrote:
To all too many Democrats, politics is less a calling to serve America than it is a vehicle by which, through graft and corruption, they can "become" rich.

Meanwhile, as they make their fortunes on the backs of the American taxpayer, they acquire v**es by bashing "the rich," giving away said taxpayer's hard earned money and baselessly accusing their opposition of being corrupt.

They turn a blind eye to one another's corrupt practices, which are an open secret between them, because they don't want the v**ers to get an in-your-face look at the details of their ongoing "bonanza."

Those Democrat v**ers who are smart enough to see what's going on deny it, because, it seems, corruption is part and parcel of the Democrats' ethos.
To all too many Democrats, politics is less a call... (show quote)


How is it that most politicians enter public office with no real wealth but, leave public life wealthy???

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Aug 24, 2019 19:24:15   #
Seth
 
DogLover99 wrote:
How is it that most politicians enter public office with no real wealth but, leave public life wealthy???


They use our tax money to deliver government contracts and earn "kickbacks" in various forms, use their insider information about bills about to pass, coming regulations, etc to make "investments," get "favors"paid back when they leave government in the form of "lucrative" consultancies or corporate vice presidencies, or, like Hillary, brazenly install virtual cash registers in their offices, hers "donations" to the Mafia Clinton Foundation and the actual theft that was the Uranium One debacle.

Federal politics is a virtual treasure trove for corrupt scumbags. In fact, I hear that now the Obamas are speculating on buying a humongous estate with something like 8 1/2 full baths on the premises...

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Aug 25, 2019 00:38:24   #
debeda
 
DogLover99 wrote:
How is it that most politicians enter public office with no real wealth but, leave public life wealthy???


Enquiring minds want to know

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Aug 25, 2019 01:53:10   #
Radiance3
 
MR Mister wrote:
The United States Studies Center at the University of Sydney in Australia released a report on Monday that warned America has lost its military superiority in the Indo-Pacific region and Chinese missiles could wipe out its bases with “precision strikes in the opening hours of a conflict.”
https://www.ussc.edu.au/analysis/averting-crisis-american-strategy-military-spending-and-collective-defence-in-the-indo-pacific

“The combined effect of ongoing wars in the Middle East, budget austerity, underinvestment in advanced military capabilities and the scale of America’s liberal order-building agenda has left the US armed forces ill-prepared for great power competition in the Indo-Pacific,” the authors concluded.

The report warned that too many American politicians and foreign policy officials have an “outdated superpower mindset” because they believe China would never act aggressively because the long-term consequences would include a horrific world war.

In t***h, Chinese strategy has focused on limiting American power projection in the Pacific while building up the enormous missile inventory of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). The imbalance of forces has reached the point where the PLA could pull off a quick disarming strike followed by a clear, difficult-to-reverse victory.

In other words, a swarm of missiles would knock out key U.S. and allied assets in the Western Pacific within a matter of hours. The PLA would quickly move to secure its objectives, establish a foothold on the territory it desires, and then turn the logic of deterrence on its head by asking if the U.S. is prepared to suffer heavy loses in a protracted war to reverse those gains. According to the report:

Having studied the American way of war — premised on power projection and all-domain military dominance — China has deployed a formidable array of precision missiles and other counter-intervention systems to undercut America’s military primacy. By making it difficult for US forces to operate within range of these weapons, Beijing could quickly use limited force to achieve a fait accompli victory — particularly around Taiwan, the Japanese archipelago or maritime Southeast Asia — before America can respond, sowing doubt about Washington’s security guarantees in the process.

This has obliged the Pentagon to focus on rebuilding the conventional military capabilities required to deny Chinese aggression in the first place, placing a premium on sophisticated air and maritime assets, survivable logistics and communications, new stocks of munitions and other costly changes.

The Australian report describes the U.S. problem as “strategic insolvency,” meaning America now has more defense commitments than it can realistically meet with current defense spending.

Rivals like China are surging ahead with force modernization and increasing their combat power, while the U.S. and its allies invested too heavily in Middle Eastern conflicts and nation-building over the past two decades, reduced defense spending to satisfy domestic political demands, provided far too many countries with security guarantees, and convinced themselves none of those markers would ever be called in.

The shift in focus from Cold War great-power competition to counter-terrorist operations has left too many Western strategic planners – and, crucially, the politicians who finance their operations – unable to imagine how a battle between near-peer forces could unfold.

Unfortunately, the world’s heavyweight bad actors have no such poverty of strategic imagination. The University of Sydney report noted that China’s military buildup has “successfully focused on negating the technological and operational advantages that the US military has grown accustomed to since the end of the Cold War,” saying:

Long-range ballistic and cruise missile complexes, in addition to other counter-intervention systems, now threaten American and allied bases and operating locations from Japan to Singapore. These weapons could see China sink or destroy expensive allied warships and aircraft for a fraction of the cost of US power projection. As the majority of America’s forward-deployed air power is concentrated on vulnerable bases within range of Chinese missiles, US aircraft are unlikely to achieve air superiority during a crisis. If unaddressed, this will undercut America’s efforts to blunt Chinese aggression and is likely to be compounded by the fact that US surge forces and logistical support assets are also under resourced and vulnerable to Chinese counter-intervention capabilities.

In short, U.S. forces in the Indo-Pacific region no longer have the mass to absorb a sucker punch like the missile swarm envisioned by the report. It has become disturbingly feasible for the Chinese to hit enough crucial targets to neutralize America’s presence in the Pacific for long enough to put Chinese troops on the ground in places such as Taiwan, at which point the game would change from fending off a Chinese attack to dislodging an occupying force without inflicting horrendous civilian casualties and destroying valuable infrastructure.

Launching such an attack might seem even more attractive to China because it would devalue American security guarantees around the world, greatly amplifying China’s sales pitch that it can provide better security to its client states with fewer harangues about human rights.

The report recommended “hardening” vital facilities to make them harder to neutralize with a first strike, although China’s vast size and closer proximity to likely theaters of conflict give it an inherent advantage – it can launch large numbers of missiles and aircraft quickly from a wide assortment of bases, and they have shorter flight times to contested areas, allowing the PLA to more easily maintain the rapid tempo of operations seen in conflicts like the Gulf War. With these logistics in mind, the report recommended the U.S. develop missiles with longer ranges and heavier payloads, so that every punch it throws is a haymaker.

The University of Sydney report gave the Trump administration credit for setting the right priorities with respect to China, but found a dismaying lack of follow-through from Washington, in part because increased defense spending and more aggressive military recruiting are tough sells on Capitol Hill:

America’s capacity to enforce its vast liberal order has also correspondingly declined. Whereas the United States and its allies accounted for 80 per cent of world defence spending in 1995, today their share has fallen to just 52 per cent — leaving them less well-equipped to address an ever growing line-up of international challenges.

As Harvard University academic Stephen Walt observes of US strategy during this period: “The available resources had shrunk, the number of opponents had grown, and still America’s global agenda kept expanding.”

The consequences of this overstretch are now coming home to roost. Not only have the direct costs of liberal order-building been astronomical — by some estimates, the Department of Defense has spent over US$1.8 trillion on the global war on terror since 11 September 2001 for little strategic payoff — but the worldwide diffusion of American resources and attention has left the military under-prepared for the return of great power competition. This is what the Pentagon is now working to address.

The report advised Australia, and other key regional allies such as Japan, to step up their efforts and help the United States address its “strategic insolvency” issue in the Pacific. This posture would t***sform Australia from a “security contributor to a front-line ally” and prepare for a “more unstable future in which the Australian Defense Force may be required to provide large-scale independent strategic effects to secure its vital national interests.”

This is interesting advice in light of President Donald Trump’s arguments with European leaders over their contributions to NATO funding. Some of the grumbles about Trump’s approach come from Europeans, and Americans, who essentially think of the whole thing as a fiscal game, an argument about how much money to stuff into a jar for a rainy day that will never come because a great-power invasion from Europe has become unthinkable.

From the perspective of “strategic insolvency,” however, it is clear that every American partner must make the maximum contribution so that U.S. security guarantees don’t look like overdrawn checks written from an anemic military bank account. As long as the U.S. appears strategically insolvent, adversaries will consider calling Washington’s bluff and triggering a cascade failure of U.S. credibility.
The United States Studies Center at the University... (show quote)

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US have strategic defense system in Japan, South Korea, and Australia is our ally. For the record China has only one nuclear airplane, while US has 12 nuclear airplanes.

It is just too bad that Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines allowed China took over the Spratly islands. China has built its military system there. China bullied the countries who own those islands.

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Aug 25, 2019 09:10:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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US have strategic defense system in Japan, South Korea, and Australia is our ally. For the record China has only one nuclear airplane, while US has 12 nuclear airplanes.

It is just too bad that Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines allowed China took over the Spratly islands. China has built its military system there. China bullied the countries who own those islands.


What's a nuclear airplane??

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Aug 25, 2019 09:26:05   #
Seth
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What's a nuclear airplane??


It must be a new secret weapon, and Radiance has just spilled the beans. The black helicopters will be arriving at her place any minute now.... 😁

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Aug 25, 2019 10:49:32   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
We made almost two decades of mistakes rewarding manufacturers for taking manufacturing over to China. Instead of paying them hundreds of millions in subsidies and tax breaks to move they should have been penalized and heavily taxed for moving.

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What attracts them to China is the low overhead cost. The labor in China is cheap with 1.4 billion to utilize for cheap labor. That's why they are there. The labor union on our country demands higher wages since our standard of living is higher than China.

But I think if tariffs continue for China imports, then perhaps those US manufacturers will come home, plus the low corporate tax rate. Most of them have come home already.

I prefer buying high quality products made in USA than the cheap quality, cheap labor products from China. Those items are cheap with very poor materials.

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Aug 25, 2019 18:35:05   #
Radiance3
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What's a nuclear airplane??

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In the news last night, not so familiar with it. Perhaps it carries or produce nuclear materials. It was reported that in mid 1990, China secretly bought from Ukraine, a soviet built carrier.

China is presently building:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/29/world/asia/china-navy-aircraft-carrier-pacific.html

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