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Sep 8, 2019 10:40:22   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Try to realize that those posts you are criticizing were part of a longer conversation. They were in direct response to Rumitoid's lies attempting to prove the bible justifies socialism, and other of his false, lying claims.

What I posted in response to Rumitoid, and your totally out of context remarks here, just proves that l*****ts aren't interested in facts, they are only interested in the ends justifying their means, and the ends of leftism are always governmental control and less individual human rights and responsibilities. People like you are what this country was founded to combat.
Try to realize that those posts you are criticizin... (show quote)


BAM Completely true! This country was founded to combat big government control and taxation without representation. Which is what dems do. They'll say anything they think people want to hear to get elected, then DO wh**ever they please once elected. That is NOT representing your constituents interests, it is representing a narrative that so often runs counter to your constituents interests.

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Sep 8, 2019 16:33:54   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You think that was a win, it was a forfeit.


LOL!

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Sep 8, 2019 17:34:16   #
Tug484
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Try to realize that those posts you are criticizing were part of a longer conversation. They were in direct response to Rumitoid's lies attempting to prove the bible justifies socialism, and other of his false, lying claims.

What I posted in response to Rumitoid, and your totally out of context remarks here, just proves that l*****ts aren't interested in facts, they are only interested in the ends justifying their means, and the ends of leftism are always governmental control and less individual human rights and responsibilities. People like you are what this country was founded to combat.
Try to realize that those posts you are criticizin... (show quote)



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Sep 8, 2019 17:49:35   #
Seth
 
debeda wrote:
BAM Completely true! This country was founded to combat big government control and taxation without representation. Which is what dems do. They'll say anything they think people want to hear to get elected, then DO wh**ever they please once elected. That is NOT representing your constituents interests, it is representing a narrative that so often runs counter to your constituents interests.
BAM img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com... (show quote)


Alas, this is indeed the case, yet the followers of today's Democrats go along with this, and condemn President Trump, who unlike their politicians, is doing everything he promised he'd do during his campaign.

He has been straight up with us, no ulterior motives or deviation from his platform, yet they attack him without mercy while snuggling up šŸ‡ to a party that lies to them as a matter of course.

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Sep 8, 2019 17:53:34   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Alas, this is indeed the case, yet the followers of today's Democrats go along with this, and condemn President Trump, who unlike their politicians, is doing everything he promised he'd do during his campaign.

He has been straight up with us, no ulterior motives or deviation from his platform, yet they attack him without mercy while snuggling up šŸ‡ to a party that lies to them as a matter of course.


True STORY. But I guess there are those that would prefer to hear "sweet little lies" rather than confront the t***h and find solutions.....

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Sep 8, 2019 21:57:40   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
debeda wrote:
True STORY. But I guess there are those that would prefer to hear "sweet little lies" rather than confront the t***h and find solutions.....


Itā€™s just insane, isnā€™t it?

There was a documentary on Netflix a while back. I forgot the title. It was an experiment a guy from India did in the US. He started a f**e eastern religion just to see if he could find anyone who would be duped into being a dev**ee. It actually was easier than he thought and he and his team gathered a small following. Eventually he had to tell them he was a f**e and it was just an experiment. There was a wide range of responses. Some took it lightheartedly, some were shocked, some really doubted he wasn't really a guru, and some were highly offended for being deceived.

But the reality of the phenomenon was indisputable! People are gullible, and they want, sometimes desperately, to have a guru who has all the answers.

I think most l*****ts are like that, they want desperately to believe the hype the MSM feeds them, and I think most politicians, on either side of the aisle recognize that susceptibility of people and exploit it. How else could people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Barak Obama or Hillary Clinton convince people to trust them? The ā€œgullibility-for-a-guruā€ factor is a strong force.

Of course, unfortunately, I donā€™t think some Trump supporters are immune to the phenomenon. But I think a lot of liberals project their ā€œguru dependenceā€ (for lack of a better term) on a lot of us Trump supporters. Iā€™ve said many times Iā€™m not totally sold on Trump, (ie he certainly hasnā€™t kept his promise to ā€œlock her upā€ which is highly disappointing because of the implications of a two caste system in the US), but he sure beats the alternatives on the the left side, and he sure has all the right enemies!

Anyway, I think that phenomenon sheds a lot of light on the situation.

There are two types of people that feed off each other that are destroying America: first, the type of people who want someone else to figure out things for them and tell them what to think (the guru dependents), and secondly, those who think they know better how to run peopleā€™s lives than they think people can do for themselves (guru/god-complex). These people together are k*****g us! This is what the l*****t plantation looks like.

The US canā€™t exist for long without free people being educated and responsible for their actions.

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Sep 8, 2019 22:02:50   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Itā€™s just insane, isnā€™t it?

There was a documentary on Netflix a while back. I forgot the title. It was an experiment a guy from India did in the US. He started a f**e eastern religion just to see if he could find anyone who would be duped into being a dev**ee. It actually was easier than he thought and he and his team gathered a small following. Eventually he had to tell them he was a f**e and it was just an experiment. There was a wide range of responses. Some took it lightheartedly, some were shocked, some really doubted he wasn't really a guru, and some were highly offended for being deceived.

But the reality of the phenomenon was indisputable! People are gullible, and they want, sometimes desperately, to have a guru who has all the answers.

I think most l*****ts are like that, they want desperately to believe the hype the MSM feeds them, and I think most politicians, on either side of the aisle recognize that susceptibility of people and exploit it. How else could people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Barak Obama or Hillary Clinton convince people to trust them? The ā€œgullibility-for-a-guruā€ factor is a strong force.

Of course, unfortunately, I donā€™t think some Trump supporters are immune to the phenomenon. But I think a lot of liberals project their ā€œguru dependenceā€ (for lack of a better term) on a lot of us Trump supporters. Iā€™ve said many times Iā€™m not totally sold on Trump, (ie he certainly hasnā€™t kept his promise to ā€œlock her upā€ which is highly disappointing because of the implications of a two caste system in the US), but he sure beats the alternatives on the the left side, and he sure has all the right enemies!

Anyway, I think that phenomenon sheds a lot of light on the situation.

There are two types of people that feed off each other that are destroying America: first, the type of people who want someone else to figure out things for them and tell them what to think (the guru dependents), and secondly, those who think they know better how to run peopleā€™s lives than they think people can do for themselves (guru/god-complex). These people together are k*****g us! This is what the l*****t plantation looks like.

The US canā€™t exist for long without free people being educated and responsible for their actions.
Itā€™s just insane, isnā€™t it? br br There was a doc... (show quote)


Well said, Tommy, and AGREED

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Sep 8, 2019 22:04:35   #
Tug484
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Itā€™s just insane, isnā€™t it?

There was a documentary on Netflix a while back. I forgot the title. It was an experiment a guy from India did in the US. He started a f**e eastern religion just to see if he could find anyone who would be duped into being a dev**ee. It actually was easier than he thought and he and his team gathered a small following. Eventually he had to tell them he was a f**e and it was just an experiment. There was a wide range of responses. Some took it lightheartedly, some were shocked, some really doubted he wasn't really a guru, and some were highly offended for being deceived.

But the reality of the phenomenon was indisputable! People are gullible, and they want, sometimes desperately, to have a guru who has all the answers.

I think most l*****ts are like that, they want desperately to believe the hype the MSM feeds them, and I think most politicians, on either side of the aisle recognize that susceptibility of people and exploit it. How else could people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Barak Obama or Hillary Clinton convince people to trust them? The ā€œgullibility-for-a-guruā€ factor is a strong force.

Of course, unfortunately, I donā€™t think some Trump supporters are immune to the phenomenon. But I think a lot of liberals project their ā€œguru dependenceā€ (for lack of a better term) on a lot of us Trump supporters. Iā€™ve said many times Iā€™m not totally sold on Trump, (ie he certainly hasnā€™t kept his promise to ā€œlock her upā€ which is highly disappointing because of the implications of a two caste system in the US), but he sure beats the alternatives on the the left side, and he sure has all the right enemies!

Anyway, I think that phenomenon sheds a lot of light on the situation.

There are two types of people that feed off each other that are destroying America: first, the type of people who want someone else to figure out things for them and tell them what to think (the guru dependents), and secondly, those who think they know better how to run peopleā€™s lives than they think people can do for themselves (guru/god-complex). These people together are k*****g us! This is what the l*****t plantation looks like.

The US canā€™t exist for long without free people being educated and responsible for their actions.
Itā€™s just insane, isnā€™t it? br br There was a doc... (show quote)


I didn't like that he didn't lock her up.
When he was asked why, he replied they're good people.
I thought when? They've never been good people.

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Sep 9, 2019 08:42:10   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Tug484 wrote:
I didn't like that he didn't lock her up.
When he was asked why, he replied they're good people.
I thought when? They've never been good people.


What I heard him say was, ā€œwe arenā€™t like thatā€ implying not vindictive. The problem with that is, in a word, ā€œjustice.ā€

ā€œThe President is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress...ā€

We didnā€™t hire him to pick and choose which laws to enforce let alone picking which persons get immunity.

And now ā€œC**p Cabal Comeyā€ getting let off the hook twice.
Would any of us still be walking free?

Anyone who isnā€™t alarmed at the two-tiered justice system in America doesnā€™t love blind justice.

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Sep 9, 2019 08:49:35   #
debeda
 
TommyRadd wrote:
What I heard him say was, ā€œwe arenā€™t like thatā€ implying not vindictive. The problem with that is, in a word, ā€œjustice.ā€

ā€œThe President is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress...ā€

We didnā€™t hire him to pick and choose which laws to enforce let alone picking which persons get immunity.

And now ā€œC**p Cabal Comeyā€ getting let off the hook twice.
Would any of us still be walking free?

Anyone who isnā€™t alarmed at the two-tiered justice system in America doesnā€™t love blind justice.
What I heard him say was, ā€œwe arenā€™t like thatā€ im... (show quote)



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Sep 9, 2019 09:03:05   #
Seth
 
Tug484 wrote:
I didn't like that he didn't lock her up.
When he was asked why, he replied they're good people.
I thought when? They've never been good people.


I still see this as a case in the making. Hillary's Email AdventureĀ© was small potatoes compared to what she and others will have to answer for (Fusion GPS, Comey -- rather than the lesser charge they let him slide over -- McCabe, Ohr, etc) over the attempted c**p d'etat against President Trump, which could go as high as Obama. Nobody's sitting idle, more and more information is coming out all the time, they need to build a case for prosecution, to nail a lot more people on more serious charges.

Once all the Barr team's, Nunez', Jordan's ducks are in a row and there's enough there to get people rolling over on each other, I think we'll see some much more serious prosecutions. The email thing is not gonna go away, it's just going to wait in line behind all the charges revolving around the FISA warrants, Spygate, etc.

There's no instant gratification in something this big and involving so many people, unless you want to see shoddy work and people walking on technicalities or prosecutorial cases with holes in them that the defendants' lawyers can exploit.

Then, there is having to get around likely obstructive tactics by Dem swampsters like Elijah Cummings.

I'm just going to wait and see, but with confidence that at the end of the day, we're not going to be let down.

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Sep 9, 2019 10:16:32   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Seth wrote:
I still see this as a case in the making. Hillary's Email AdventureĀ© was small potatoes compared to what she and others will have to answer for (Fusion GPS, Comey -- rather than the lesser charge they let him slide over -- McCabe, Ohr, etc) over the attempted c**p d'etat against President Trump, which could go as high as Obama. Nobody's sitting idle, more and more information is coming out all the time, they need to build a case for prosecution, to nail a lot more people on more serious charges.

Once all the Barr team's, Nunez', Jordan's ducks are in a row and there's enough there to get people rolling over on each other, I think we'll see some much more serious prosecutions. The email thing is not gonna go away, it's just going to wait in line behind all the charges revolving around the FISA warrants, Spygate, etc.

There's no instant gratification in something this big and involving so many people, unless you want to see shoddy work and people walking on technicalities or prosecutorial cases with holes in them that the defendants' lawyers can exploit.

Then, there is having to get around likely obstructive tactics by Dem swampsters like Elijah Cummings.

I'm just going to wait and see, but with confidence that at the end of the day, we're not going to be let down.
I still see this as a case in the making. Hillary'... (show quote)


I hope to God youā€™re right. Iā€™m not a pessimist by nature.

At one point or another there will be an accounting. Of that I am very sure.

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Sep 9, 2019 10:37:23   #
Seth
 
TommyRadd wrote:
I hope to God youā€™re right. Iā€™m not a pessimist by nature.

At one point or another there will be an accounting. Of that I am very sure.


President Trump is a patient man, he will win in this as in everything else. Some things just take longer than others.

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Sep 9, 2019 15:12:29   #
Tug484
 
TommyRadd wrote:
What I heard him say was, ā€œwe arenā€™t like thatā€ implying not vindictive. The problem with that is, in a word, ā€œjustice.ā€

ā€œThe President is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress...ā€

We didnā€™t hire him to pick and choose which laws to enforce let alone picking which persons get immunity.

And now ā€œC**p Cabal Comeyā€ getting let off the hook twice.
Would any of us still be walking free?

Anyone who isnā€™t alarmed at the two-tiered justice system in America doesnā€™t love blind justice.
What I heard him say was, ā€œwe arenā€™t like thatā€ im... (show quote)


I didn't hear that.

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Sep 9, 2019 15:13:59   #
Tug484
 
Seth wrote:
I still see this as a case in the making. Hillary's Email AdventureĀ© was small potatoes compared to what she and others will have to answer for (Fusion GPS, Comey -- rather than the lesser charge they let him slide over -- McCabe, Ohr, etc) over the attempted c**p d'etat against President Trump, which could go as high as Obama. Nobody's sitting idle, more and more information is coming out all the time, they need to build a case for prosecution, to nail a lot more people on more serious charges.

Once all the Barr team's, Nunez', Jordan's ducks are in a row and there's enough there to get people rolling over on each other, I think we'll see some much more serious prosecutions. The email thing is not gonna go away, it's just going to wait in line behind all the charges revolving around the FISA warrants, Spygate, etc.

There's no instant gratification in something this big and involving so many people, unless you want to see shoddy work and people walking on technicalities or prosecutorial cases with holes in them that the defendants' lawyers can exploit.

Then, there is having to get around likely obstructive tactics by Dem swampsters like Elijah Cummings.

I'm just going to wait and see, but with confidence that at the end of the day, we're not going to be let down.
I still see this as a case in the making. Hillary'... (show quote)


I still have faith because it's been prophesied by more than one.

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