crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Regardless of white, black or an otherwise s*********t, you ought to know what one looks like; look in the mirror.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

I wish i could take the credit...But Crazyliberterian started it....Thanks to him!!!

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Oops, caught it and fixed it already!
But thanks!

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

You're welcome.

I submit that, as long as we stick to the verifiable and agreed upon t***h, none of these liberals are even close to a match for us. The problem is they will stoop to anything, rumors, half-t***hs, etc. to accomplish their goal of foisting a c*******t dictatorship on us. In this, they are of a mind with Lenin.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

You are 100% correct! My main two gripes with them, but certainly not the only, are over a******n first, and r****m second. The only way they know how to deal with either of these issues, is lie, lie, lie, project, project, project.

It is how they operate, no, it is the only way they can operate AND be successful, oh, and by indoctrination and propaganda through schools and the media. They certainly can't be successful with open honest dialog, which is why they are working so diligently to suppress the free speech of conservatives on many platforms, media, including the big tech social media giants. (That could be another poll: do you support social media suppressing the free speech of conservatives? Or, do you support using the IRS to target conservatives? But I digress...)

If only they could be forced to be honest. If only! And that goes for conservatives also. Your poll could just as well have asked l*****ts if they were willing to condemn their own politicians every time they lie, for their lies. (And I'm not talking about their Bidenesque "we care about t***h not facts" lies , where they create their own reality and then hold people accountable as if their manufactured t***h was on a par with, let alone above, facts. I'm talking about "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor", or "we have to pass the bill to know what's in the bill", or "unborn babies are just lifeless gobs of tissue that are part of the mother's body" or "it's r****t to require people of color to show ID to v**e" or "the second amendment was only for self-defense at home or for hunting", or "freedom of religion means you can't express your beliefs to others who don't want to hear them, and means you can't talk about, or live, your religious convictions if you're in government, unless you are an atheist or Muslim", Or (regardless that inner cities like Baltimore are run to the ground by l*****ts) they're the ones who really care for people". These are all lies by which they deceive people and seduce them to their side. That's what is truly "deplorable"...yet another l*****t projection!

And yes, I would categorically renounce any proven lie of any conservative politician. The ends DO NOT Justify the means...(except when Hillary almost became President, we had to dodge that bullet, and as long as the l*****t agenda is so blatantly evil, I'll be forced to v**e in the most effective way of stopping their overall godless, corrupt, baby-k*****g, r****t and socialistic agenda)!!!

I do not dismiss President Trump for telling lies, but I do keep them in perspective. What does that mean? It means, for 1, like I said above about Bidenesque manufactured t***h, and 2, the President speaks off the cuff, without a teleprompter, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to have photographic memory of every statistic, but he certainly should correct himself as needed...I much prefer a President that is candid than one who so can't trust himself to speak openly that he depends highly on prewritten speeches... of course, that doesn't mean I automatically like Biden, it means I know why I don't like Biden. I would have respected Obama a little bit if he didn't have all his records sealed and deny he was raised by c*******ts. I better stop now...I hope I made my point without to much rambling.

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

the kluxers have been managed by 'demolitionist bureaucrats' for decades to stir the pot...just as you are 'sunshine'

woodguru

I object to A****a and their element that is actually not representative of the actual movement at all just as I object to groups like the p***d b**s. Their objective is to literally fight at protests that they are in opposition to. They train and work out in fighting techniques and they go to fight, which is what a group calling themselves A****a did. This element of a****a destroys the objective of the A****a movement, as does any group of people within a group that can't understand the purpose of peaceful protests.

The best way to negate and defuse the p***d b**s is to ignore them... although I will say that they were in Oregon in a confrontational mindset. A****a is not nearly the organized entity that the p***d b**s are, and if Trump wants to talk about declaring A****a a terrorist group so are the p***d b**s and other white nationalist groups that incite, train, and prepare for violence.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

I never heard of the P***d B**s until the past few weeks and I am fairly well informed. I've heard of Aryan Brotherhood and most of the others I am sure.

Kudos to woodguru for his criticism of A****a but his disclaimer of those gangsters in Portland doesn't wash with all of its past videos. If woodguru says it's not the original A****a, it's incumbent on him to prove it. show us what is with valid links. You can't just say like AOC that the Soviet Union and China weren't true socialism.

I abhor violence but and roundly condemn it but when I saw those black-outfitted goons beating up those innocent opponents, I was reminded of Mussolini's Black Shorts.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Agreed.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Kudos for “objecting” although that’s a little bit shy of a denouncement.

First I’ve never heard of “p***d b**s” so I’ve been reading their website. For example:

“As evening set in, it was time to pack up and get some beers. The day had been a success. No fights. No r**ts. No turf wars. No bull sh**.
“Even while other people marched across the city disrupting daily commutes and business routes.
“Our boys showed people we can stand for America and have fun doing it, without the need for violence or vitriolic rhetoric.
“Proud of your Boy!”
http://proudboysusa.com/western-chauvinism-still-alive-in-portland/

On this url http://proudboysusa.com/aboutus/
There is a video of the founder of p***d b**s claiming they renounce “white nationalism, “alt-right” etc oh, here’s the url for the video:
https://youtu.be/DGrPjx2V_TA


But you say, “Their objective is to literally fight at protests that they are in opposition to.”

Prove it! Show me where they say that is their “objective”, or retract the lie.

The l*****t MSM making these guys out to be anything like avowed terrorists is, from what I gather from their own position, just more typical MSM f**e news.

So, your l*****ts a****as send out avowed terrorists and if anyone dares defend themselves or their victims they are also terrorists? Why am I not surprised this would be your position. So, you will only “object” to A****a avowed violence if no conservatives dare defend themselves against them, and if all conservatives also denounce those who would take a defensive position against violence. I personally do not resort to violence because I’m a true Christian. But as an American, I will ideologically and verbally defend a secular person’s right to self-defense, and defense of this country’s constitutional Republic (and it being non-socialistic at that), because that is the law of the land.

Make no mistake, it is the A****a socialists who are the antagonists (terrorists/bullies) in this country!...

“What is 'A****a?'
“A****a is short for "anti-f*****t." It is a loosely organized coalition of protesters, left-wing activists, and self-described anarchists who vow to physically confront "f*****ts" — meaning anyone who espouses bigoted or totalitarian views.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/who-a****a-meet-radical-neo-n**i-fighting-m*****a-n793241#anchor-WhatisA****a


And

“a****a
“Short for militant l*****ts, or occasionally far l*****ts and radical l*****ts, often used as a generalization of people who commit to acts of violence against those on the Right side of the political spectrum.” https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a****a

I don’t see where they even have a website where they explain their positions. But it appears that it is quite common knowledge they are committed to violence to get their way. If that isn’t f*****m, what is?

Doing a little research, it sounds to me like these a****a’s are, at best, misguided by the l*****t false narratives and don’t have a clue that they have become the f*****ts themselves by their physical terrorist tactics.

What a mess l*****ts are making of this country! All because they insist on fundamentally changing America to a socialist country.

And you wonder why American patriots are literally “up in arms” in defense of our constitution and Bill of Rights?

You folks really should just leave America if you don’t like it that much. That would be the only peaceful solution at this point...your l*****t terrorists are going to make sure of that. There is one other peaceful option, which you l*****ts also object to, and that is dividing this country geologically into two separate countries, one conservative side, and the other socialist/l*****t.

Meanwhile, your thinly veiled “objection” (short of a real denouncement) has been found out. Like everything with l*****ts, you have the situation upside down and backwards.

Kevyn

As a nation N**is are our defeated enemies. If patriotic Americans take it upon themselves to stomp any N**i fool enough to show their face in public, more power to them.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

A****a is exactly what N**i did.....Violence was their MO,and A****a are NOT Patriotic Americans,they are masked wanna be N**is plus cowards too!!!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

A****A is a f*****t organization pretending to be against f*****m but is simply anti trump. It is also a cult.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Shortly before his assassination, John F. Kennedy said that our society had to accept and permit the expression of all opinions no matter how repugnant. My only qualifier to that is no violence. You evidently disagree. You should be banned from this venue.

You are truly d********g.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Nothing that Trump ever does, including his supposed lies, compare in horror to the 62 million a******ns that people like Kevyn, PeterS and almost all of the liberals on OPP suborn.