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Aug 20, 2019 11:51:44   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Sorry color me embarrassed should have gone a little further back into the records. The contest used by the article was Gore vs Bush;
George W. Bush popular 50,456,002 e*******l 271
AL Gores popular 50,999,987 e*******l 266 [2]

This changes the view, but still has the same possible outcome of a handful of people picking the winner, If it treads out. Still that particular contest was pretty much in contention.

These Are National Popular V**es
Which Is Not How We Elect Our Presidents
No One Threw Their E*******l V**es, Either
Although Gore Wanted To Change The Rules After The E******n

STATES Elect Presidents
The E*******l V**es Of The State
Goes To Who Carried The STATE In The E******n

As I Keep Pointing Out
Hillary's 3.2 Million V**es
Came From ONLY ONE State....California
And She Needed 4.5 Million V**es In California To Get It

It Wouldn't Matter If EVERY V**e In California
Had Been Cast For Hillary
Or If She Had Carried California By Only ONE V**e
California Has 58 E*******l V**es,
Regardless Of How Many, OR FEW, People V**e
California Still Gets The SAME Amount Of E*******l V**es
Because The E*******l V**es
Are Based On Congressional Representation
And EVERYONE Has Congressional Representation
Whether They V**e Or Are Too Young To V**e

It's The States That Elect The President

National Popular V**e Interstate Compact
Is High-Jacking The E******n Away From The Will Of Their Own Constituents

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Aug 20, 2019 22:21:09   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
karpenter wrote:
These Are National Popular V**es
Which Is Not How We Elect Our Presidents
No One Threw Their E*******l V**es, Either
Although Gore Wanted To Change The Rules After The E******n

STATES Elect Presidents
The E*******l V**es Of The State
Goes To Who Carried The STATE In The E******n

As I Keep Pointing Out
Hillary's 3.2 Million V**es
Came From ONLY ONE State....California
And She Needed 4.5 Million V**es In California To Get It

It Wouldn't Matter If EVERY V**e In California
Had Been Cast For Hillary
Or If She Had Carried California By Only ONE V**e
California Has 58 E*******l V**es,
Regardless Of How Many, OR FEW, People V**e
California Still Gets The SAME Amount Of E*******l V**es
Because The E*******l V**es
Are Based On Congressional Representation
And EVERYONE Has Congressional Representation
Whether They V**e Or Are Too Young To V**e

It's The States That Elect The President

National Popular V**e Interstate Compact
Is High-Jacking The E******n Away From The Will Of Their Own Constituents
These Are National Popular V**es br Which Is Not H... (show quote)


U. S. E*******l College: Who Are the E*****rs? How Do They V**e?
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/e*******l-college/e*****rs.html#restrictions

Yes we do not elect the President by popular v**e but

Most states require that all e*******l v**es go to the candidate who receives the plurality in that state. After state e******n officials certify the popular v**e of each state, the winning slate of e*****rs meet in the state capital and cast two b****ts—one for Vice President and one for President. E*****rs cannot v**e for a P**********l and Vice P**********l candidate who both hail from an e*****r’s home state.

Are there restrictions on who the E*****rs can v**e for?

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires E*****rs to v**e according to the results of the popular v**e in their states. Some states, however, require E*****rs to cast their v**es according to the popular v**e. These pledges fall into two categories—E*****rs bound by state law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that E*****rs be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from e*****rs to v**e for the parties' nominees. Some state laws provide that so-called "faithless E*****rs" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid v**e and be replaced by a substitute e*****r. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to v**e as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No E*****r has ever been prosecuted for failing to v**e as pledged.

Today, it is rare for E*****rs to disregard the popular v**e by casting their e*******l v**e for someone other than their party's candidate. E*****rs generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of E*****rs have v**ed as pledged.

Like I pointed out with Gore and Bush the e*******l v**e didn't follow on what the state required them to do. The exception of Maine and Nebraska most state's have a winner take all policy. The winner is normally the states results of the popular v**e. My point being if enough of the E*****rs decide to v**e against what the states requires you can run into the problem of the winner being elected by a handful of people.

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Aug 21, 2019 18:29:28   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
We'll See If This Goes Through Appeals

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/21/e*******l-college-members-not-bound-popular-v**e-c/

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Aug 21, 2019 23:35:50   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 


Just what this thread is about , the states want to change
to ensure that the v**e go the way the college was expected to be , and now the courts want to define what was meant by what the founders wanted. So changes are always to be expected. Like you mentioned it may change or may not time will tell.

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