nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Regardless of any perceived gray area surrounding whom Trump was calling “animals,” he did not say “undocumented immigrants are not people; they are animals.” Rather, he said “these aren’t people. These are animals” in the context of deportees, specifically members of MS-13.

This brief exchange between President Donald Trump and a California sheriff during a “California sanctuary state roundtable” in May. The sheriff was complaining about a particular California law ( SB 54) that essentially prevented her from alerting ICE of the release dates of undocumented immigrants charged with minor crimes. “There could be an MS-13 member I know about—if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it,” the sheriff told Trump. To which Trump replied:

"We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy."


The context (baked into that of the entire meeting) is the MS-13 gang and other such criminals, which Trump has repeatedly referred to with the same pejorative: “Animals.”

If you are a h**er and still claim Trump called all immigrants "animals, the you are a bigger liar than he ever was.

Gatsby

President Trump did say that MS13 are animals, all that liberals heard was "all Mexicans are animals".

By doing so, liberals equate all Mexicans with MS13, and that IS R****T.

The problem appears to be that liberals do not understand the English language,

they must t***slate every syllable into "liberal speak", which today means H**e trumps Facts.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

There it is!!!!!!

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

Liberal speak "Orange man bad, me scared"

MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

As clear as it is to ANY honest person who can read, there will still be those, even on this forum who, like the current democrat candidates, who will continue to make the claim that the president said all immigrants are animals. I just heard Beto this morning say that Trump now calls the immigrants an infestation, a term now made popular by the comment he made about Baltimore being "rat infested," which it is.

I am continually astounded at how people in the 21st century, knowing we can read and watch and listen to these issues over and over again, still make the false claims about his statements.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Interesting observation (which I happen to agree with).

Some other observations have been made that NWO elites like to publish what they are doing somewhere in the open, perhaps in code or symbols or worked into the dialog of a movie or something. Maybe it's a Freudian-slip type phenomenon or has a name I'm not aware of.

One observation I’ve made personally (while researching the development of the extra-biblical Trinity doctrine) is the phenomenon that sometimes people are more candid about lies with people they believe agree with them, than with people they think will challenge them. (For example, Athanasius, one of the architects of the Trinity, in speaking with polytheists, would argue, and I'm paraphrasing from memory here, you can't have more than one God, because if you did, you would have gods who were superior or inferior to each other and if they needed anything from one another, none of them would be "all-mighty". On the other hand, writing to Arius, who was a "Subordinationist Trinitarian" (meaning he believed Jesus was made of a similar nature to God, and made in process of time), Athanasius would say that you can't have a God, like Arius' view of Jesus, who is not coequal and coeternal with the Father and still claim you are talking about God. Athanasius would also say, contrary to this, that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit had to eternally love each other in order to be the definition of love. Well, in doing so, Athanasius justified for his doctrine what he condemned polytheists of doing: making gods who needed other gods and thereby showed a lack in their self, thus less than almighty. And the Platonism-educated masses ate up what Athanasius wrote because his "reasoning" appealed to their secular/pagan educations.)

My point is this observation: double-minded people who can't keep their stories or the facts straight between two different groups of people (within reason, that is, not that we aren't all human) shouldn't be the ones we look to for leadership. This is what Jesus called the blind leading the blind.

In Beto's case, he can't even discern the depth of r****m inherent historically and systemically within his own party (so he's blind), AND he can't keep his facts straight (can't discern) between condemning the known, observable animalistic acts and intentions of one group like MS-13 without thinking a whole race is meant.

I'd say, it was the same faulty reasoning on his part to come to his false conclusions as was his thinking he would make a legitimate and worthy politician in the first place!

Scary to think how often, and easily, the masses are suckered into believing such false thinking, self-deceiving, wannabes. But, that is what makes "some-bodies" out of "wannabes."

And then we wonder why politicians are always such narcissists!

In earlier America, people had to be nominated based on their historic, proven character by third parties. Maybe they understood something we've forgotten?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It's hot here, Kira, on this new work. It is good to hear from you. I think you have something, too.

bikerlee

I agree with all you have said, BUT, there is a great number of Trump hatters that will not see or hear of any good he has done, They follow blindly the people that trash talk the POTUS and have since before he was sworn in.

The Dems have obstructed the President and his party and lied about what is being done to the Immigrants rushing our borders illegally being something that is his fault when it is congress that made the laws he is following, and the only body that can change those laws. The sanctuary states and cities are encouraging the i*****l i*********n, and that body of Trump hatters want to put immigrants above of the US citizen with free everything.

They blame him for separating families, that is exactly what happens to any US citizen with children that break the law and has to be incarcerated.

The list of lies of the Trump hatters is so long, it goes on and on, but you just can't cure stupidity. Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

You are very correct, bikerlee. At the very least I have put this specific lie in their faces here on OPP. But I am sure they will continue to say the lie again and again.

bikerlee

Again, I loved reading your post,

One of the biggest lies told to the v****g public is the willingness of some two-faced politician that says "I am not afraid to speak t***h to power", Who is the power, is it the President or the people? In any case, there is a lot of misleading things being told as well as outright lies during the Presidental campaigning, not much t***h or substance along with name-calling.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Thanks man. I actually stole that from an article I found but forgot to put up the link. None the less, it is an accurate depiction of the Trump comment.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

WOW, are you suggesting that Tommy Radd is the former KiraSeer2016? She(?) certainly has had her share of pseudonyms, but I wouldn't have guessed T-R is one of 'em.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Sounded like her/him. Thought I'd see so I posted a hook. No response.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

He never called ALL migrants animals only MS13 and those like them. That's a little like the time in Afghanistan the prisoners saw my Marine buddies relaxing. They called us animals, but this time it was a compliment what they meant was, they never faced a fighting force like us. lol almost anyone in here I'm fairly sure would be the same. Back to this if you're not a liberal you won't understand that the wet trail they leave every time there's a Trump rally on tv is kinda there ptsd. They don't understand that they've now put their lives in danger with TDS, yes their lives! Not me but some wacko (probably muzzie going by my profile will do the next mass murders).