Elderly couple found dead in apparent murder-suicide, left notes about high medical bills: This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the...

PeterS

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

Yeah, so the government can decide who lives and dies.

Gatsby

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

This elderly couple qualified for Medicare, and you want Medicare for all?
Want to move to the top of the list, just keep pushing Medicare for all.
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DaWg44

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

You can thank your hero Obama for this. Maybe you don’t remember “$2,500.00 savings, you can keep your doctor”. That was the day we put our two week old tv back in the box it came in, where it still is. We have been married 27 years & have only had 2 TVs.

You can also thank him for the increased violence with his “fundamentally change America”.

We are privileged white people. We had the privilege of growing up poor, wearing hand me down clothes, working in the fields from the time we 6 years old, eating wh**ever was put before us, knowing that was all that was available.

We both worked our ways through college, no loans, no time to get distracted by bulls**t protests. I had the privilege of getting drafted. My wife had the privilege of developing Systemic Lupus at 18, has dealt with it 50 years, working all the time. We are still working.

Our medical bills were 38% of our net income last year.

Lonewolf

DaWg44 wrote:

You can thank your hero Obama for this. Maybe you... (show quote)

And if you keep v****g republican it will only get worse! The clothes the food and medial care you missed was given to people who make billions by republicans !

Gatsby

DaWg44 wrote:

You can thank your hero Obama for this. Maybe you... (show quote)

If you want everything free, just tear up your birth certificate, and claim "refugee status"

trucksterbud

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

You might want to wake up Petey. Canada HAS a single payer system. Canadians come to America to get their operations and medical procedures done. Do you live under a rock..?? The massive i*****l i*********n going on has produced a strain on the California Medicare system that California NEEDS the Feds to step in and help finance. But yet, California doesn't want to be part of America anymore. More liberal l*****t moonbat double-speak..??

And my wife and I have just been subjected to the terrible cost of medical care. She just had hip replacement surgery.... $33,000... Sure insurance pays 80%, but that still leaves us with about $9,000 to pay. We are working class stiffs, with one paycheck, no savings, and it is going to crush us for at least 5 years. Not a good view of the future at 63 yrs old.

DaWg44

Gatsby wrote:

If you want everything free, just tear up your birth certificate, and claim "refugee status"

No. We never got anything for free, know there is no free lunch. We will keep on keeping on, just like we were raised to do. We have our religion, our garden, & our protection. We have our f**g flying & not likely to welcome anyone screaming & cussing us in our front yard or trying to tear up anything.

We have every intention of being around for a long time just to make liberal/l*****ts upset in our small way.

Lonewolf

trucksterbud wrote:

You might want to wake up Petey. Canada HAS a sing... (show quote)

Medicare is the candian health care with age requirements , have you thought we could improve on it and make it the best in the world !

Lonewolf

trucksterbud wrote:

You might want to wake up Petey. Canada HAS a sing... (show quote)

Welcome to the club I do wish you well push come to shove pay them 20.00 bucks a month!

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

Only someone as removed from reality as you could suggest this as a solution. Single payer will make things ten times worse.

bggamers Loc: georgia

DaWg44 wrote:

You can thank your hero Obama for this. Maybe you... (show quote)

(Welcome to the real word) this should be the entry-level to all the younger generation who feel their ENTITLED to everything without working for it. I feel for you and your situation I'm 68 and still working can't afford to retire my new baby alway needs something now it's all the windows need to be replaced and the gutters. Then I want a privacy fence so I don't have to look or be aware that my neighbor really exists. As long as I work I have medicare and my work insurance and no out of pocket cost. But when you have a kidney dr a cardiologist dr a vascular dr if I quite I won't be able to take a deep breath for the cost for medical or eat my patients tell me dont retire you'll regret it and I'm afraid they may be right

GmanTerry

Lonewolf wrote:

And if you keep v****g republican it will only get worse! The clothes the food and medial care you missed was given to people who make billions by republicans !

You bet. People shouldn't have to pay for the things they get. Everything should be free, paid for by the stupid tax payers. Seeing only 50% of the country pay taxes, it sort of makes us taxpayers feel like maybe we should have some say in how much we are taxed and where that money goes. You l*****ts feel that somehow you have the right to put your hand in my pocket and give what I have earned to some deadbeat or i*****l a***n. We will continue to fight you.

Semper Fi

Auntie Dee

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

This elderly couple were eligible for Medicare and Washington State also has Medicare Advantage programs available, used together their medical bills would possibly have been quite low or if eligible they could have turned to mediaid programs. If his wife was terminal, Medicare Advantage would have paid for Hospice Care. Perhaps they just were ignorant of those facts & needed help?

Even if they still owed high medical bills, many doctors and hospitals will negotiate their owed bills! There is always bankruptcy available if all else fails.

Somehow I don't think this was just a case of "high medical bills", probably just didn't want to go on suffering or seeing his mate suffer but wanted to have someone or something else to blame it on! The press just ate it up and used it for their own agenda!

Cuda2020

PeterS wrote:

This is the problem with healthcare--it is an item of infinite demand--no matter how high the cost is you will always demand the product. This is why a single-payer system is the only solution.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab5i&linkId=71797265&fbclid=IwAR0hFE3UMiSV_h_1fr1m3h4JH2z-lFVUZngZZHS6qwyfVFKSGJbF-J-KCSg

The elite will never go for that, they are always in demand for special privilege, they don't belong on the same level as the common man, that's how it's always been since we've become "civilized".