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Aug 10, 2019 01:24:49   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
markc wrote:
Fool, CO2 levels are off the chart now compared to anytime in the last 400,000 years. Show me your numbers.

Notice how the CO2 levels always precede the temperature level increases. We are in some deep s**t.

http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/


Damn boy. If you’re that upset hold your breath. For like five minutes.

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Aug 10, 2019 01:31:47   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Iam wondering if any of our past c*****e c****e deniers are coming around to finally believing that c*****e c****ed is real, is dangerous to mankind, and is caused largely by man's activities that put increased amounts of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere.

I am particularly wondering if our denier-in-chief, Blade-Runner, is finally coming around, or if he is just as oblivious to the overwhelmong scientific evidence as he always has been.

C*****e c****e is real. Unless measures are taken to halt it or slow it down, you, your children and your grand children are going to have to suffer its results.

Got any feelings about this ?

Trolls, don't bother commenting.
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Here's over an hour of videos about Climate. Knock yourself out.

https://www.prageru.com/video/c*****e-c****e-what-do-scientists-say/
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-paris-climate-agreement-wont-change-the-climate/
https://www.prageru.com/video/what-they-havent-told-you-about-c*****e-c****e/
https://www.prageru.com/video/do-97-of-climate-scientists-really-agree/
https://www.prageru.com/video/control-the-words-control-the-culture/
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-i-left-greenpeace/
https://www.prageru.com/video/can-climate-models-predict-c*****e-c****e/
https://www.prageru.com/video/can-we-rely-on-wind-and-solar-energy/
https://www.prageru.com/video/is-c*****e-c****e-our-biggest-problem/
https://www.prageru.com/video/c*****e-c****e-whats-so-alarming/
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-t***h-about-co2/
https://www.prageru.com/video/whats-the-deal-with-the-green-new-deal/
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-you-should-love-fossil-fuel/
https://www.prageru.com/video/fossil-fuels-the-greenest-energy/
https://www.prageru.com/video/trees-are-the-answer/

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Aug 10, 2019 02:04:34   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
dtucker300 wrote:
https://www.prageru.com/video/trees-are-the-answer/


Yes they are!!. It would be awesome if the Sierra Club would let us cut down Bug Trees, and stem the start of forest fires to begin with!! and for all cut down 5 or 10 new trees need to be planted!..

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Aug 10, 2019 02:12:14   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Larai wrote:
Yes they are!!. It would be awesome if the Sierra Club would let us cut down Bug Trees, and stem the start of forest fires to begin with!! and for all cut down 5 or 10 new trees need to be planted!..


Fuuny that you wrote Bug Trees because the Angeles National Forest around Big Bear and Arrowhead, Trees are infested with Bark Beetles.

https://www.fs.fed.us/research/invasive-species/insects/bark-beetle/

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Aug 10, 2019 02:50:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
markc wrote:
Fool, CO2 levels are off the chart now compared to anytime in the last 400,000 years. Show me your numbers.

Notice how the CO2 levels always precede the temperature level increases. We are in some deep s**t.

http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/
That is not true. Ice cord data reveals that CO2 levels trail temperature changes.

Scientific American: Ice Core Data Help Solve a G****l W*****g Mystery

Why do some ice core samples seem to indicate CO2 spikes trailed increases in global temperature? It’s all about the way bubbles move in ice

the most comprehensive records to date on a major change in Earth’s climate came from the EPICA Dome C ice core on the Antarctic Plateau. The data, covering the end of the last ice age, between 20,000 and 10,000 years ago, show that CO2 levels could have lagged behind rising global temperatures by as much as 1,400 years. “The idea that there was a lag of CO2 behind temperature is something c*****e c****e skeptics pick on,” says Edward Brook of Oregon State University’s College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences. “They say, ‘How could CO2 levels affect global temperature when you are telling me the temperature changed first?’”

Frédéric Parrenin of the Laboratory of Glaciology and Geophysical Environment in France and a team of researchers may have found an answer to the question. His team compiled an extensive record of Antarctic temperatures and CO2 data from existing data and five ice cores drilled in the Antarctic interior over the last 30 years. Their results, published February 28 in Science, show CO2 lagged temperature by less than 200 years, drastically decreasing the amount of uncertainty in previous estimates.


New Scientist Climate myths: Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to g****l w*****g.

The 800 year lag in CO2 after temperature – graphed Carbon dioxide follows temperature in the Vostok Ice Cores

If you are in deep s**t, get the hell out of it. It's stupid to sit there whining about it.

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Aug 10, 2019 02:54:17   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Fuuny that you wrote Bug Trees because the Angeles National Forest around Big Bear and Arrowhead, Trees are infested with Bark Beetles.

https://www.fs.fed.us/research/invasive-species/insects/bark-beetle/


I know.. And the Liberal Sierra Club is tryin to save said beetle!.. Not sure how much you know about fire, and what happens... firstly, we have wind, that usually spreads the fire.. then you have dead bug trees.. Fire creates it's own wind.. and then you have crowning, where the fire is at the top of the tree, then Jumps.. one of the biggest fears my hubby and I had was the fire jumping the canyon.. and landing in our little mtn town of foresthill california, also when we lived in Auburn california, same deal..

I watched an interview with the founder of the sierra club... the founder of Green peace also, Neither founder Ever thought that their organizations would become so militant.. but it is what it is, My pop was a fireman for L.A. city in the 60's-80's, fighting structure fires as well as fires generated from the "santa anna winds".. Nasty dangerous stuff..He also fought the Watts r**t fires!..Gee who burned their own town down.. yep....my hubby was a volunteer fireman and my brother in law is also a fireman.. I grew up with this stuff.. Those bug trees have GOT to go.. I live in northern nevada now, not many trees here unless you count cottonwoods.. nasty buggers!.. messy too.. I miss my trees!.. What these lib environmentalists think is that we just arbitrarily cut down trees w/out replacing them... as I said in my previous post is that there are between 5-10 New trees planted for every 1 cut down!.. These Sierra club fools are more responsible for the fires than Any jackass with a mower or dirt bike etc, that they like to blame rather than blame themselves... TYPICAL!

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Aug 10, 2019 02:59:49   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is not true. Ice cord data reveals that CO2 levels trail temperature changes.

Scientific American: Ice Core Data Help Solve a G****l W*****g Mystery

Why do some ice core samples seem to indicate CO2 spikes trailed increases in global temperature? It’s all about the way bubbles move in ice

the most comprehensive records to date on a major change in Earth’s climate came from the EPICA Dome C ice core on the Antarctic Plateau. The data, covering the end of the last ice age, between 20,000 and 10,000 years ago, show that CO2 levels could have lagged behind rising global temperatures by as much as 1,400 years. “The idea that there was a lag of CO2 behind temperature is something c*****e c****e skeptics pick on,” says Edward Brook of Oregon State University’s College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences. “They say, ‘How could CO2 levels affect global temperature when you are telling me the temperature changed first?’”

Frédéric Parrenin of the Laboratory of Glaciology and Geophysical Environment in France and a team of researchers may have found an answer to the question. His team compiled an extensive record of Antarctic temperatures and CO2 data from existing data and five ice cores drilled in the Antarctic interior over the last 30 years. Their results, published February 28 in Science, show CO2 lagged temperature by less than 200 years, drastically decreasing the amount of uncertainty in previous estimates.


New Scientist Climate myths: Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to g****l w*****g.

The 800 year lag in CO2 after temperature – graphed Carbon dioxide follows temperature in the Vostok Ice Cores

If you are in deep s**t, get the hell out of it. It's stupid to sit there whining about it.
That is not true. Ice cord data reveals that CO2 l... (show quote)



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Aug 10, 2019 06:30:17   #
promilitary
 
JFlorio wrote:
You’re the troll. This stupid subject has been beat to death on OPP. You say c*****e c****e is real. No s**t Sherlock. We all know it. We just disagree on mans impact. Go troll another site.




Right
The climate has been changing since the beginning of time. What happened to the ice age?
I guess all the exhaust fumes from all those cars melted it away?
God created the climate, HE will control it.

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Aug 10, 2019 07:36:56   #
Judson
 
God made this earth, and He isn't going to let anything happen to it that He doesn't want to happen to it. So don't worry about things you can't control.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:23:48   #
Big dog
 
BigJim wrote:
Likely it is true, but the alarmists exaggerate. Regardless, China is the leading CO2 producer, and India is catching up. China has 65% of the world's coal burning capacity, the US 15%. Even if we stop producing all OUR CO2 it will not greatly affect the future.

We can try to:
1. Accommodate- prepare for flooding, move inland, build d**es
2. Directly engineer the climate - Try inserting material to create reflective clouds in the atmosphere.
3. Try to sop up the CO2. One proposal is to dump iron in the ocean to stimulate algae growth.
4. Cry and wail. It will do almost as much good as reducing our carbon emission will.

Liberals will usually oppose any solution that does not involve pain. This is a religion to them, and if you don't agree with their solution you are blasphemous.
Likely it is true, but the alarmists exaggerate. ... (show quote)


Besides, what’s the big deal anyway? World gets hot. People die off, human population decreases, trees take over more land . Sounds like a win/win situation to me.

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Aug 10, 2019 09:32:26   #
Kazudy
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Iam wondering if any of our past c*****e c****e deniers are coming around to finally believing that c*****e c****ed is real, is dangerous to mankind, and is caused largely by man's activities that put increased amounts of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere.

I am particularly wondering if our denier-in-chief, Blade-Runner, is finally coming around, or if he is just as oblivious to the overwhelmong scientific evidence as he always has been.

C*****e c****e is real. Unless measures are taken to halt it or slow it down, you, your children and your grand children are going to have to suffer its results.

Got any feelings about this ?

Trolls, don't bother commenting.
Iam wondering if any of our past c*****e c****e de... (show quote)


G****l w*****g is a h**x. You pinko liberals don’t always believe but for sure you all come together if its going to help your Marxist, Socialist, C*******t cause. And that’s the t***h.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:00:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Iam wondering if any of our past c*****e c****e deniers are coming around to finally believing that c*****e c****ed is real, is dangerous to mankind, and is caused largely by man's activities that put increased amounts of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere.

I am particularly wondering if our denier-in-chief, Blade-Runner, is finally coming around, or if he is just as oblivious to the overwhelmong scientific evidence as he always has been.

C*****e c****e is real. Unless measures are taken to halt it or slow it down, you, your children and your grand children are going to have to suffer its results.

Got any feelings about this ?

Trolls, don't bother commenting.
Iam wondering if any of our past c*****e c****e de... (show quote)


http://www.forbes.com/sites/doronlevin/2019/08/09/global-warming-an-israeli-astrophysicist-provides-alternative-view-that-is-not-easy-to-reject/#1692efae6945

If you are able to read, you'll learn a little about warming.

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Aug 10, 2019 13:13:00   #
BigJim
 
Even if it is real it can't be significantly impacted by Americans reducing CO2 production. China burns more than 4x the coal the US burns, and is the worst contributor, and is not going to stop. India and Indonesia will join them as they ramp up their economies. It is unrealistic to expect them to slow down to help us.

Best course is to prepare for it, as we really can't fight it.

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Aug 10, 2019 13:23:31   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Judson wrote:
God made this earth, and He isn't going to let anything happen to it that He doesn't want to happen to it. So don't worry about things you can't control.


True that!!... There is one time in our history that man tried to mess with the weather in Vietnam, Operation Popeye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye

Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia during 1967–1972. The cloud seeding operation during the Vietnam War ran from March 20, 1967 until July 5, 1972 in an attempt to extend the monsoon season, specifically over areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The operation was used to induce rain and extend the East Asian Monsoon season in support of U.S. government efforts related to the War in Southeast Asia.

The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.

The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.

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Aug 10, 2019 13:35:09   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
BigJim wrote:
Even if it is real it can't be significantly impacted by Americans reducing CO2 production. China burns more than 4x the coal the US burns, and is the worst contributor, and is not going to stop. India and Indonesia will join them as they ramp up their economies. It is unrealistic to expect them to slow down to help us.

Best course is to prepare for it, as we really can't fight it.


Yes. We can fight it for the rest of the world. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. If you want to fight G****l W*****g, then help spread capitalism to the poor countries so they can become wealthy enough that they can mitigate the environmental degradation that has occurred in their own localities. With wealth, they can stop clear-cutting forests, hunting animals to extinction, using cow pies for fuel and actually clean up the air, water, and land. The other added benefit is that people stop having too many children and the population will stabilize, lest we all go about k*****g each other and destroying everything.

China is already dealing with serious environmental problems caused by its c*******t regime. The former Soviet Union has one of the worst environmental records in history. On the other hand, the Netherlands has not suffered a single death since 1953 from storms and flooding because they have prepared.

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