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Aug 8, 2019 14:50:58   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
slatten49 wrote:
Thanks, Jake But, I rank the one below with the recent one above.....

https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-87071-1.html


Wow, that is an outstanding post, but it was before my time on the forum. Thank you sir, it brought tears to my eyes~

SEMPER FI my brother~

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Aug 8, 2019 15:58:07   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
The photo below came from BearK, and meant to compliment this thread. For that, I thank both her and my Sgt. Major for taking the time to process it to the forum screen. It suits the thread well



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Aug 8, 2019 16:04:33   #
promilitary
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Ya know what the Navy is for?

They are uber drivers for Marines




Tell that to the SEALs

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Aug 8, 2019 16:08:39   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
slatten49 wrote:
James Evans, former SSgt, Force Recon, Vietnam, USMC, PhD Univ Prof

Consider the Battle of Belleau Wood fought in the summer of 1918 (1 June 1918 to 26 June 1918).
German field commanders sent messages to their headquarters that went something like this: “We are fighting the American Marines. We are winning the fight, but the Marines do not know that they have lost. Even when we shoot them, they continue to attack. Please advise.”

After this battle, U. S. Army General, Black Jack Pershing, overall commander of the AEF in Europe (American Expeditionary Force), said, “The Deadliest Weapon in the World is a Marine and His Rifle.”
Nothing has changed today, and the rest of the world knows this to be true. Here’s my view of why.

The Germans last gasp in WWI was their Spring Offensive in 1918. They had just acquired 50 fresh divisions from the Eastern Front after the Russians quit the fight (over 500,000 men). As a result, the Germans were in complete control of their Spring Offensive and they were pushing the allies back. They were on their way to Paris. The French were worn out. Their reserves were depleted, and they had no fresh divisions to send to the front. The Brits were also worn out.

Enter the Americans. Fresh, and rugged. Rough kids from the streets and alleys of urban America. Tough farm kids from the countryside. Factory workers from mid-America. Rough necks from the oil fields. Tough kids from the mines. Ranch hands from cattle country. Supply clerks from department stores. And teachers from everywhere.

It didn’t matter what kind of work Americans did before military service (or even if they hadn’t worked) because wh**ever their circumstance was growing up in 1916, just staying alive had made them tough and hard.

What the German High Command learned is that Americans were different from other people on the planet. The Germans called it a character difference. And the Germans said that Marines took this character difference to a higher level than other Americans.

What the Germans learned about American Marines in 1918 is still true today. Why? What’s different about Marines? We’re all Americans, aren’t we? Yes, but. . .

The but is that quite simply every Marine who’s ever lived has learned to not quit. Moreover, they have learned to give up their life for another Marine, and to never, ever leave another Marine behind, no matter the cost of bringing him or her out. It doesn’t matter if you like or dislike the other Marine, for what’s important is that they are a Marine.

This fact is in every Marine’s DNA given to them at Graduation from Boot Camp or OCS (Officers Candidate School) when they are born into the Marine Corps!

Quite simply, this is the essence of the expression, “Once a Marine, Always a Marine.”

What the Germans experienced at Belleau Wood was repeated in the Caribbean wars and in China in the run-up to the U.S.’s entry into WWII. It was repeated again in WWII. And again in Korea. And again in Vietnam. And in Iraq. And again today in Afghanistan. And it will be repeated as long as there are conflicts that involve the U. S. Marine Corps!

Suffice to say, the whole world views the U. S. Marine Corps as a fighting force that does not quit, and that is comprised of individuals who will sacrifice their lives for each other.

People have different views of why this is so. Here’s my view:

Imagine that you are part of an organization that will never leave you behind. No matter what the circumstances, no matter what it takes, no matter what it costs, no matter what the sacrifices are, this organization will not leave you behind. They will come and get you.

But this is not the end of it. This organization will do wh**ever it takes to keep you current so that you never become obsolete. Furthermore, you will not be replaced by those who will work for less because this organization will not move to a place where labor is cheaper, or costs are lower.

What this organization asks of you in return is that you keep yourself healthy and fit. To that end, the organization will help you stay healthy and fit by providing the best heath care, the best exercise facilities, the best instruction, the best advice for your diet and for anything else that you need.

And the costs of doing this will not be passed on to you or the other workers. Nor are the costs hidden from you or the other workers. Those who pay the costs are the investors. And they agree to pay them because they know that having workers such as those described above makes the organization stronger and more effective and, in the end, makes the organization a safer bet for their investment money.

The question is, if you worked for this organization, how would you feel about it?

I submit that you would feel you were part of a special organization. I believe that you would feel you were a part of a Brotherhood. Furthermore, I believe that you would do wh**ever it takes to keep this organization a Brotherhood. Indeed, you would give your life for your Brothers as they would for you.

I submit that American Marines felt this way about the U. S. Marine Corps in my day (S/Sgt-Force Recon, Vietnam, and in my father’s day (1933–1966 ret, Sgt/Maj with 5 Purple Hearts). Marines today feel the same way.

To fight such an organization means that you are fighting people who will not quit, no matter the setting, no matter the circumstance.

James Evans -Marine-PhD/Political Science (Political Theory, Economics, History, Mathematics)

“Old Corps, New Corps, Same Corps”

"The change is forever" SEMPER FI
James Evans, former SSgt, Force Recon, Vietnam, US... (show quote)


Semper Fi Slatten There is one addition you may like. When we were sitting on a small hill in Afghanistan after a day of tough fighting we heard a couple of Al Quaeda prisoners talking to each other. "Who are you? You're animals!" Well, it was 150 of them and about 50 of us, as you said nobody left behind.

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Aug 8, 2019 16:16:04   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
promilitary wrote:
Tell that to the SEALs

The Navy Seals are a different breed of sailor, and somewhat different than U.S. Marines.

The SEALs are the Navy’s sea, air and land forces – a group of soldiers whose training provides them with the capabilities to perform highly specialized and intensely challenging warfare missions that are considered superior to standard military forces. The SEALs are known for their ability to think critically and have the willpower necessary perform challenging missions, such as direct action warfare, special reconnaissance, counterterrorism and foreign internal defense. Their training program is considered one of the toughest in the world, challenging the students with obstacles designed to help them learn to work as a team, develop and test their stamina and produce leadership sk**ls.

The Marine Corps is also a Department of the Navy, and they are often considered one of the most elite fighting forces in the world. They serve on U.S. Navy ships with the unique mission to protect naval bases, guard U.S. embassies and be prepared for combat in order to protect the country's interests around the world. Essentially, the Marines are the military’s 9-1-1 force, with thousands always deployed and living on naval amphibious ships. Marines are not just able to fight in water: They travel with their own air power, are always prepared with the necessary artillery and provide their own logistics support. Every Marine is trained to be a rifleman, regardless of their position, based on the theory that if needed, they can perform as an infantryman.

There is a strong mutual respect & admiration between the Marines & Navy Seals.

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Aug 8, 2019 16:59:18   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Yeah and how about that chair Force bus driver Association! Woohoo!

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Aug 8, 2019 16:59:45   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Oh well

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Aug 8, 2019 17:35:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Texas T***h wrote:
Yeah and how about that chair Force bus driver Association! Woohoo!

The Air Force did play a huge role in salvaging our battle for Khe Sanh in 1968.

"Bus driver Association "

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Aug 8, 2019 17:55:52   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
slatten49 wrote:
The Air Force did play a huge role in salvaging our battle for Khe Sanh in 1968.

"Bus driver Association "


Yeah when we we're in our dress blues we refer to ourselves chair Force bus drivers Association. I got a ride and a f-106 interceptor for incentive to re-enlist and I took it. All I can say is 1275 miles an hour flying over the East Coast watching Islands go by like somebody was ripping a tablecloth off a big dining room table! That was a holy s**t moment. I flew a bulldozer D9 was my favorite. I know you could screw up some stuff with a M1 Garand or an M4 but if you really want to screw something up use a caterpillar d-9 is the boss! Then we finish the job with a road grader. I was National Guard civil engineering visiting many countries including Jamaica mon! In February! Yeah that sucked. Hey thank you for your service bro I've got a Everlasti.ng respect for everybody that served in the forces. I feel terribly bad for the guys who had to go through the worst. Referring to hell. Thanks again wish I had your hand in mine! I'll have a cold beer for you! Here's to you! My first deployment was also in the missile fields in western Utah in July. 125 degrees in the Sun on a D9 building a road hundreds of miles from the nearest asssshole.

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Aug 8, 2019 18:00:02   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
slatten49 wrote:
The Air Force did play a huge role in salvaging our battle for Khe Sanh in 1968.

"Bus driver Association "


I've got a lot of friends in my Sportsman's Club we're about 75% veterans damn we've got guys that were in pretty bad s**t in including the Tet Offensive. We got a lot of Desert Storm guys and we still have one World War II veteran God bless him. Hey bro nice chatting with you. I'll send some pics when I get a chance. Texas t***h over and out

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Aug 8, 2019 18:02:45   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
PS thanks for starting a great post!

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Aug 8, 2019 18:03:44   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
I'll send some pics from Berlin 1986.

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Aug 8, 2019 18:52:07   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
The Navy Seals are a different breed of sailor, and somewhat different than U.S. Marines.

The SEALs are the Navy’s sea, air and land forces – a group of soldiers whose training provides them with the capabilities to perform highly specialized and intensely challenging warfare missions that are considered superior to standard military forces. The SEALs are known for their ability to think critically and have the willpower necessary perform challenging missions, such as direct action warfare, special reconnaissance, counterterrorism and foreign internal defense. Their training program is considered one of the toughest in the world, challenging the students with obstacles designed to help them learn to work as a team, develop and test their stamina and produce leadership sk**ls.

The Marine Corps is also a Department of the Navy, and they are often considered one of the most elite fighting forces in the world. They serve on U.S. Navy ships with the unique mission to protect naval bases, guard U.S. embassies and be prepared for combat in order to protect the country's interests around the world. Essentially, the Marines are the military’s 9-1-1 force, with thousands always deployed and living on naval amphibious ships. Marines are not just able to fight in water: They travel with their own air power, are always prepared with the necessary artillery and provide their own logistics support. Every Marine is trained to be a rifleman, regardless of their position, based on the theory that if needed, they can perform as an infantryman.

There is a strong mutual respect & admiration between the Marines & Navy Seals.
The Navy Seals are a different breed of sailor, an... (show quote)



I won't argue about the Marines being an elite fighting force
but the Idea that Marines are the ultimate,makes me snicker
mayhaps you never heard of a 5 foot 5 inch little infantryman (Army) named Audie Murphy

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Aug 8, 2019 18:55:24   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
I won't argue about the Marines being an elite fighting force
but the Idea that Marines are the ultimate,makes me snicker
mayhaps you never heard of a 5 foot 5 inch little infantryman (Army) named Audie Murphy

A Texan, naturally He was from outside Greenville, Texas, just northeast of Dallas. We have an Audie Murphy Museum in Hillsboro, Texas...about 22 miles from our home.

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Aug 8, 2019 19:10:21   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
A Texan, naturally He was from outside Greenville, Texas, just northeast of Dallas. We have an Audie Murphy Museum in Hillsboro, Texas...about 22 miles from our home.


He wasn't a Marine Slat
I wonder what the Germans said about him

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