Seth

S***ery was abolished in the 1860s, by 1900 our population had tripled and workers were working for wages. Like most afficionados of socialism, you can't let the fact go that it is an evolving world, that what's considered normal in one era can be taboo in another, so s***ery always has to be a part of every conversation as though those alive today bear some guilt for injustices that took place before anyone living in at least the last half century was even born, likely before their parents even met.

Naturally, the workers in any successful business are to thank for its success, some more than others.

The "some" are those whose asset value, hard work, acquired knowledge, leadership potential, loyalty and dependability has brought them rewards and better lives, the "others" include the unexceptional, the lazy and the complacent whose rewards have been less because their contributions were lackluster compared to the "some," who are achievers.

However, had it not been for the vision, initial hard work, sacrifices and extreme risks taken by the capitalists themselves, there would have been no jobs for the workers. The jobs didn't just appear out of thin air.

Understanding that concept appears to present a profound challenge for you.

The global capitalism to which I refer is that of g*******ts like George Soros, the top dogs at Google and other tech giants, and others who envision a corporate empire as virtual royalty over a single world government, the path to this aided by swamp critters at the U N., in various governments and their central banks.

The EU is a perfect example.

A number of countries willing to surrender their individual sovereignty and, to some extent, compromise their respective cultures to be part of a geographic collective.

The shortcomings of this have more than manifested themselves, and please don't feign ignorance of what I am referring to, enough so that following Brexit you will see other member nations begin bailing out.

President Trump is not as dumb ad the MSM and the left try to make him out as being -- he sees this, just as he values, as a patriot and an American who is grateful for the prosperity our country has enabled him to enjoy, our sovereignty as a nation rather than part of a collective subservient to the whims of countries of lesser power and prosperity.

So, yes, everything he has been doing as part of our trade, foreign policy and immigration has been geared towards maintaining our national sovereignty and taking care of America and Americans as a first consideration.

DM

Radiance3...Hallelujah to anyone who runs against Omar AND BEATS HER ROYALLY. However,
your other information...How can those Somalian Muslims who live in my BIRTH STATE... have
several wives and make many babies? You can't be married to more than one person at a time....
Altho..hear tell Omar married her brother and already married to someone else to gain entrance
to America? A Fairy tale? Where do you get this stuff? Do police know of all the marriages and
is Minnesota...once a Bible Belt State now a 3rd World Country already? Gone to hell in a handbasket?
Explain where you got this information...Mpls. Star and Tribune? You have Senator running for President?

Seth

One of the reasons many Muslims choose to live in solidly Muslim enclaves is because in doing so they can practice those customs not legally condoned by a host society within their own closed community, maintaining their own customs, Sharia law and record keeping beyond the notice of the host country.

(The very nature of Islam is such that that belief system countenances no -- not one iota of -- respect or regard for the laws, belief systems, religions, moralities, politics or cultures of any "outside" or "non-believer" countries or populations, including those countries gracious enough to allow them to immigrate).

In Europe, this practice has become so pronounced that there are actually "no go" zones, wherein local and governmental authorities not only don't tread, but for the usual political reasons don't even want to officially know what t***spires within these Islamic communities.

Once again, up until the early 1900s, the Islamic world was living completely in the 7th Century, even as the western world evolved socially.

In dealing with Islam, we are dealing with a mindset that the PC set naively refuse to comprehend is, by the very nature of the vast gap in our respective social evolutions, completely different from ours.

Until that "minor little detail" sinks in, we will be forever behind the 8 Ball where Islam and our relations with same are concerned and if it doesn't sink in fairly soon, "behind the 8 Ball" will seem a much more desirable place than where we will actually, and tragically, be.

DM

Thanks for reply. Saw myself how Minnesota went down hill years ago. Nothing like now though. Very
sick....and "hiding" in the Liberal "regime!" So easy how all this sickness creeps in. Nation busy attacking
our President...that is ALL that is going on. Nobody following up on these little "conclaves" of h**e and
deceit. Get the right people in office and they are blind to what they should see. Amazing, isn't it how
it has spread? Remember when it was "just" Dems and Rep's fighting it out? Not anymore, just real
sick stuff that could overtake our country with people like Nadler, Schumer ….all playing the game that
the Islam's like.."you fight each other and we just "move in" and the Libs too stupid to see it and the
Republicans are no prize packages either with insight into what is going on. Minnesota got an AG who
was a "woman beater" and right people in the Court System...(probably related) and gosh, there was
nothing to it. Another "HOLDER IN TRAINING!" When they go low..."we go lower! Sad what a wonderful
country like America that had little or no r****m until we got that "foreign Pres., "planted" who
was the right color etc.etc. Praying for God's direction and his agenda for this world "He" created.

Seth

The l*****t and g*******t agendas both require dividing the people so we're no longer Americans on the same team.

First they introduced "hyphenated" Americans, then they began separating those to the left of the hyphen from those of us who consider ourselves Americans, period.

Then came the saturation of r****m and f*****m accusations, with 8 years of a g*******t, pro-jihadi "ringer" in the White House to stoke things up and alienate minorities from the police.

And the "liberal" sheep 🐑 , brainwashed by the Propaganda Ministry mainstream media, fell in line with the lies as useful i***ts have done throughout history as precursors to totalitarian states.

JohnCorrespondent

Why do you even call me an "afficionado of socialism"? Is anyone who is open to considering a variety of ideas, or who refuses to denounce wh**ever you poorly define as an "enemy" concept, to be labeled by the likes of you? It used to be "c****e", "c*******t", "pinko", etc., and now it's "afficionado of socialism". And then you referred to "my" "naive social experiments" as though you had established some connection and had also judged the thinking behind the character you dreamed up.



S***ery naturally became a part of _this_ conversation because you had just finished writing:

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"... Thank capitalism for that.

What folks on your side of the political divide refuse to acknowledge is that this country became what it is by demanding hard work ..."
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so I pointed out that, as "this country became what it is", those who _did_ the most "demanding hard work" were s***es (and they weren't even capitalist s***es -- they were "owned" by capitalist s***e-_owners_). You brought up the setting (this country becoming what it is) and the value (demanding hard work). And you were crediting capitalism again and again in your post. Well, there are times when we'd have been better off without capitalism and that was one of the times, because those capitalists created one of the worst and biggest problems this country has ever faced and continues to _have_ to face 400 years later. They thought they could "own" so many things -- the kind of thinking a lot of "capitalists" probably think -- and they even thought they could "own" human beings. Yes "it is an evolving world" but that's no excuse for capitalism inflicting deep scars on it.

In your present post (the one I'm replying to now) you continue to frame "capitalists" as "creating" "jobs" and I say you give "capitalists" too much credit for everything. Capitalism is one economic system; it's not the only one that might work as well; and creating jobs (even if "capitalists" or "employers" _were_ the only people who could do that) is not everything; sometimes capitalists do more damage than good.

The world "works" or does what it does, or can evolve, not _always_ just because of "capitalism". It happens in a lot of ways, and "capitalism" is just one part of how things are in the world now.

We are right to give capitalism some credit, and to recognize some of the benefits of capitalism. Where you go wrong is to try to limit the thinking to _only_ that and to deride everything else out of hand.


Understanding what's in your head and trying to make it into a sensible benign system is sometimes a profound challenge. Understanding the world is something you do inadequately; you are locked into your "capitalism good, socialism bad" and other shallow paradigms. And you call me naive. I have some sense, to know I don't know everything; whereas you act arrogant.