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Jul 25, 2019 07:45:22   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
permafrost wrote:
In order to understand how utterly un-American Rep. Ilhan Omar is, it is worth taking a look at the atrocious things she has said and done in Congress[1] .

Consider, for example, her remarks when introducing drug price control legislation[2] :

“I believe that healthcare is a basic human right,” Rep. Omar said. “And the right to healthcare extends to being able to access prescription drugs at an affordable price. Americans pay the highest prices to access drugs in the world – including three times the price of drugs in Great Britain alone. Instead of taking donations from the pharmaceutical industry, we need to hold them accountable for taking advantage of the American people.

“It is a mark of shame that in the wealthiest country in the world people are dying because they can’t afford lifesaving medicine.

Or when the House passed a Freedom Of Religion Act[3] :

“We are at a turning point in our history. We must decide whether we stand for liberty and e******y or oppression and bigotry,” said Rep. Ilhan Omar. “The Muslim ban is one of this Administration’s most potent symbols of h**e—and it is having devastating consequences on families fleeing hardship. As someone who came to the U.S. from one of the banned countries, I am proud to join my colleagues in introducing legislation to end this h**eful ban and ensure that we live up to the ideals of our nation.”

Or when she introduced legislation to backpay the childcare costs of workers affected by Trump’s shutdown[4] :

“What this bill does is simple: it makes sure that the people who are suffering because of the President’s manufactured crisis are at the very least able to cover their childcare expenses,” Rep. Omar said. “This bill is personal for me. I am a working parent with three beautiful children and I know firsthand the costs associated with child care.”

Or when she opposed a funding increase for ICE[5] :

“In this country, our diversity is our greatest strength. Immigrants fuel our nation’s economy, enrich our nation’s culture, and enhance our social fabric. Quite simply, we are a better nation because of our immigrants.

“And yet, this Administration continues to threaten the dignity and humanity of our immigrant population. The Department of Homeland Security has separated thousands of children from their parents, denied asylum to those fleeing danger, and used taxpayers dollars as a slush fund to incite terror in immigrant communities. The efficacy of a government agency must be determined by assessing ‘outcomes.’ By any reasonable measure, Donald Trump’s weaponization of ICE and CBP has been a failure. The Department of Homeland Security does not deserve an increase in funding, and that is why we intend to v**e no on this funding package.

Or when the House v**ed to condemn h**e of all kinds[6] :

“We are tremendously proud to be part of a body that has put forth a condemnation of all forms of bigotry including anti-Semitism, r****m, and w***e s*******y. At a time when extremism is on the rise, we must explicitly denounce religious intolerance of all kinds and acknowledge the pain felt by all communities. Our nation is having a difficult conversation and we believe this is great progress.”

Or upon the House passing HR1[7] :

“Until we are able to create a f**r e******n system and ensure everyone’s right to participate in our democracy, we will continue to face barriers to the t***sformative change we seek,” Rep. Omar said “With H.R. 1, House Democrats have passed a once-in-a-generation reform package to restore the promise of our democracy and repair our institutions. I am particularly proud that the final bill includes my legislation to strengthen enforcement of foreign lobbying and my amendment to crack down on lobbyists who represent human rights abusers.”

“H.R. 1 is a bold declaration to the American people that the Democratic majority gets it – we want to build a democracy that actually works for the people, because when we do, government will become more responsive to the needs of everyday Americans. If we give regular Americans a seat at the table and the tools to be heard.”

We could go on, but I’m nauseated. I certainly hope you are. We have learned that Rep Omar believes:

America is the wealthiest country in the world
America stands for liberty and e******y
Children are beautiful and worth providing for
America is a better nation because of her immigrants
Government departments which fail to meet their targets should not receive increased funding
Anti-Semitism, r****m and w***e s*******y are unacceptable
American democracy must work for everyday Americans
How rude! How un-American!

“But her tweets! But ‘the Benjamins’! But she said —“

Ah ah ah ah ah.

For the past three years the entire conservative world has been telling me that Trump is a perfectly fine President, just ignore his tweets.

Well — let the record show that Rep Omar is a perfectly fine progressive Democratic member of the House of Representatives if you ignore her tweets, too.

It’s not as if Trump can claim he cares about her tweets, either, seeing as he is fabricating lies about her in his rallies[8] .

So what could it be about Rep Omar that scares Trump and his fanbase? Hmm

Must be the … earrings. Yeah. Those earrings! If I were American, I’d be scared of those long arcs of justice curving towards me too!
In order to understand how utterly un-American Rep... (show quote)




You can paint the pig but the pig is still a pig.

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Jul 25, 2019 07:48:04   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I don't know if you're from the Cities or not, Frosty, but do you like what is being done in Omar's district?




Was looking at a flyer from Harbor Freight Tools and it had an American f**g for sale and a side note that it was not available in MN. What does that mean to all of you.

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Jul 25, 2019 18:23:01   #
ExperienceCounts
 
working class stiff wrote:
I'm surprised by this.

I have read her statements about Israel and Jews. In context, they may be debatable as to matters of policy, but she isn't expressing anything that others haven't expressed. Including some Israelis.

While I support the American relationship with Israel, I don't think it's anti-Semitic to question Israeli policies anymore than questioning our own policies is anti-American. Her views on the American and Israeli policies may be out of the mainstream, but they are not outside the realm of discussion.

The Trump administration's feud with 'the Squad' is political theater. The themes of who's a r****t, or f*****t, or wh**ever is the dust-up du jour, are subordinate to what I see as a larger message:

The Republicans are seeing the future of the US and are freaking out. The Squad is everything that scares them. They are young, diverse, and opinionated. There are also more where they came from, so sending them back won't work....it's their constituents who will decide that. Whether it's these particular Representatives that survive or not, I suspect the membership of the squad will keep growing. It's the future peeking into the here and now and it scares the bejesus out of some folks.
I'm surprised by this. br br I have read her s... (show quote)


Sure it does, since the party advocates k*****g babies,

has the alphabet soup group ignoring straight people's rights or penalizing them,

since being Christian now has now had legislation introduced
making it a crime if you read all of the bill,

since one is presumed guilty instead of innocent,

since our politicians/colleges advocate violence/gag order
if you don't agree with what someone says,

since illegal entrants are elevated above citizens,
since our congress refuses to address the illegal entrantance problem
and is two faced about past platforms,

since calling names (r****ts, etc) is the preferred way to shut down honest discussion,

since proposals suggest giving away free everything and in some places to i******s first,

since politician want a Government takeover of everything, including your right to think,

since policies are in place making "hurt or uncomfortable feelings" a reason to deny others constitutional rights,

since absolutely Nothing is ever really Free (of cost),

and since someone, somewhere, somehow is going to pay
and since I'm certain it's going to be the adults
who have worked all their lives to be good American citizens,
paid their bills, raised their families

Yes, you guessed it I am afraid, very afraid of the directions these leaders want to take us; however, it won't "scare the bejesus" out of me. I'll cling tight to Him and His teachings, continue to pray and v**e, and for the first time ever, actively work for an outcome during an e******n. I'm going to encourage everyone I meet to v**e.

Don't know what the outcome will be, I'll be working and praying for the right one.

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Jul 25, 2019 23:57:46   #
Tug484
 
permafrost wrote:
At least Critic included an amusing picture..

You simply post what you dream about and is never has a bit of t***h..

Omar will become a star with the constant attacks by dreamers who think h**e alone will work.


Her and her diaper on her head can go back to where they came from.

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Jul 26, 2019 10:25:12   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Sure it does, since the party advocates k*****g babies,

has the alphabet soup group ignoring straight people's rights or penalizing them,

since being Christian now has now had legislation introduced
making it a crime if you read all of the bill,

since one is presumed guilty instead of innocent,

since our politicians/colleges advocate violence/gag order
if you don't agree with what someone says,

since illegal entrants are elevated above citizens,
since our congress refuses to address the illegal entrantance problem
and is two faced about past platforms,

since calling names (r****ts, etc) is the preferred way to shut down honest discussion,

since proposals suggest giving away free everything and in some places to i******s first,

since politician want a Government takeover of everything, including your right to think,

since policies are in place making "hurt or uncomfortable feelings" a reason to deny others constitutional rights,

since absolutely Nothing is ever really Free (of cost),

and since someone, somewhere, somehow is going to pay
and since I'm certain it's going to be the adults
who have worked all their lives to be good American citizens,
paid their bills, raised their families

Yes, you guessed it I am afraid, very afraid of the directions these leaders want to take us; however, it won't "scare the bejesus" out of me. I'll cling tight to Him and His teachings, continue to pray and v**e, and for the first time ever, actively work for an outcome during an e******n. I'm going to encourage everyone I meet to v**e.

Don't know what the outcome will be, I'll be working and praying for the right one.
Sure it does, since the party advocates k*****g ba... (show quote)


I had no clue these four 1st term Representatives had that much power and influence over the Democrats. I'll totally have to re-evaluate. Hmmmm......

Here's something to think about: these four Representatives are quite clever. They have the President's megaphone. Without it, very few people outside their districts would know who they are or their issues. The President is having their conversation and coming across not so well in the public sphere. They have nothing to lose in this fight with the President and will continue to speak as long as they have the President's ear and microphone.

They grew up in this media environment....they know how it works.

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Jul 26, 2019 10:28:58   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
working class stiff wrote:
I had no clue these four 1st term Representatives had that much power and influence over the Democrats. I'll totally have to re-evaluate. Hmmmm......

Here's something to think about: these four Representatives are quite clever. They have the President's megaphone. Without it, very few people outside their districts would know who they are or their issues. The President is having their conversation and coming across not so well in the public sphere. They have nothing to lose in this fight with the President and will continue to speak as long as they have the President's ear and microphone.

They grew up in this media environment....they know how it works.
I had no clue these four 1st term Representatives ... (show quote)


Trump also knows how it works and he is playing them to the hilt. He is using their stupidity against the whole democratic party and making the whole party own their stupidity. I love what he is doing.

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Jul 26, 2019 11:48:21   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
working class stiff wrote:
I had no clue these four 1st term Representatives had that much power and influence over the Democrats. I'll totally have to re-evaluate. Hmmmm......

Here's something to think about: these four Representatives are quite clever. They have the President's megaphone. Without it, very few people outside their districts would know who they are or their issues. The President is having their conversation and coming across not so well in the public sphere. They have nothing to lose in this fight with the President and will continue to speak as long as they have the President's ear and microphone.

They grew up in this media environment....they know how it works.
I had no clue these four 1st term Representatives ... (show quote)



The media is picking up on them as they have done with every anti-Trump idea. It has nothing to do with Trump except that he has to fight the media's bias at every turn. If you doubt that, just read headlines in as many papers as you can access dealing with the day after Mueller appeared. It is eye opening.

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Jul 26, 2019 12:19:25   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
The media is picking up on them as they have done with every anti-Trump idea. It has nothing to do with Trump except that he has to fight the media's bias at every turn. If you doubt that, just read headlines in as many papers as you can access dealing with the day after Mueller appeared. It is eye opening.


Blaming the media won't work. The President is in direct communication with the people in real time. He 'corrects the f**e news media' on a daily basis. The problem is in many cases he blatantly contradicts what we all heard or saw. No, it isn't the media that wants to make 'the squad' the face of the Democratic party. It wouldn't surprise me either if this episode of Politics USA generates some unintended consequences in the e*****rate....a case of careful what you wish for.

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Jul 26, 2019 13:34:58   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Yep You're right, more and more people are being "woke" to the fact there are t*****rous individuals in our government, and they need to be removed and removed. 2020 is time to clean house.

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Jul 26, 2019 16:01:00   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
working class stiff wrote:
Blaming the media won't work. The President is in direct communication with the people in real time. He 'corrects the f**e news media' on a daily basis. The problem is in many cases he blatantly contradicts what we all heard or saw. No, it isn't the media that wants to make 'the squad' the face of the Democratic party. It wouldn't surprise me either if this episode of Politics USA generates some unintended consequences in the e*****rate....a case of careful what you wish for.



You're right about one thing: It isn't the media who want to make the squad the face of the Democratic party; it's Trump who wants to make them the face. And why not? It's the only politically smart thing to do. What a gift, having these four take the spotlight with their insane rants, profanity and stupid personal attacks. Have you noticed his polls have been going up? Probably not, because your sources only broadcast it when his polls are going down. The President is trying to use wh**ever soapbox he has and wh**ever works. If he tweets something that the media thinks they can ding him on, they're all over it. Otherwise, you won't hear about it. I do think that people are wising up a bit. If this Mueller testimony crap doesn't do something positive for Trump then I don't know what will, short of a complete blow-up of who really wrote the Mueller report.

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Jul 27, 2019 09:00:04   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You're right about one thing: It isn't the media who want to make the squad the face of the Democratic party; it's Trump who wants to make them the face. And why not? It's the only politically smart thing to do. What a gift, having these four take the spotlight with their insane rants, profanity and stupid personal attacks. Have you noticed his polls have been going up? Probably not, because your sources only broadcast it when his polls are going down. The President is trying to use wh**ever soapbox he has and wh**ever works. If he tweets something that the media thinks they can ding him on, they're all over it. Otherwise, you won't hear about it. I do think that people are wising up a bit. If this Mueller testimony crap doesn't do something positive for Trump then I don't know what will, short of a complete blow-up of who really wrote the Mueller report.
You're right about one thing: It isn't the media ... (show quote)


Then why did you say the media was to blame in your previous post?

And no, I haven't noticed his poll numbers going up. They are where they have always been:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Trump worshipers are in no position to talk 'your sources', as you have wrapped yourselves in your own information bubble. That's the only way you can think his poll numbers are going up.

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Jul 27, 2019 09:02:49   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Yep You're right, more and more people are being "woke" to the fact there are t*****rous individuals in our government, and they need to be removed and removed. 2020 is time to clean house.


That's what what 2020 is all about....you just don't know that the Trump administration IS the house now.

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Jul 27, 2019 09:33:55   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
working class stiff wrote:
Then why did you say the media was to blame in your previous post?

And no, I haven't noticed his poll numbers going up. They are where they have always been:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Trump worshipers are in no position to talk 'your sources', as you have wrapped yourselves in your own information bubble. That's the only way you can think his poll numbers are going up.



Don't shift the focus. I said media was not to blame for making "the squad" as the face of the Democrat party. They don't want to see this happen because the squad is so crazy. The media wants no part of anything pro-Trump. The Rasmussen P**********l tracking poll as of Jul 19 has Trump 4 percentage points above what Obama was at the same point in his presidency. Let me know if you can't find it.

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Jul 27, 2019 10:55:15   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Don't shift the focus. I said media was not to blame for making "the squad" as the face of the Democrat party. They don't want to see this happen because the squad is so crazy. The media wants no part of anything pro-Trump. The Rasmussen P**********l tracking poll as of Jul 19 has Trump 4 percentage points above what Obama was at the same point in his presidency. Let me know if you can't find it.


"The media is picking up on them as they have done with every anti-Trump idea. It has nothing to do with Trump except that he has to fight the media's bias at every turn. "

"You're right about one thing: It isn't the media who want to make the squad the face of the Democratic party; it's Trump who wants to make them the face."



The opening to your last two responses shows it isn't me who can't keep focus. And I do watch the Rasmussen poll....one among many. There is one major difference between the Obama poll and Trump's: at some point more the half the people approved of Obama and thus he had a group he could recover. Trump has never had that, and still doesn't, because he continues to alienate large segments of the population.

If you think the squad is crazy, you are not really paying attention.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/trump-says-minnesota-cant-stand-ilhan-omar-his-attacks-have

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Jul 27, 2019 11:33:06   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
working class stiff wrote:
"The media is picking up on them as they have done with every anti-Trump idea. It has nothing to do with Trump except that he has to fight the media's bias at every turn. "

"You're right about one thing: It isn't the media who want to make the squad the face of the Democratic party; it's Trump who wants to make them the face."



The opening to your last two responses shows it isn't me who can't keep focus. And I do watch the Rasmussen poll....one among many. There is one major difference between the Obama poll and Trump's: at some point more the half the people approved of Obama and thus he had a group he could recover. Trump has never had that, and still doesn't, because he continues to alienate large segments of the population.

If you think the squad is crazy, you are not really paying attention.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/trump-says-minnesota-cant-stand-ilhan-omar-his-attacks-have
"The media is picking up on them as they have... (show quote)




Do I have to draw you a picture, Stiff? in the first paragraph I was talking about the media picking up on every anti-Trump idea. In the second, I was referring to the media NOT wanting to make the squad the face of the Democratic party. The part you seem to be missing is WHY. The answer to that is that they don't want to make the squad the face of the DP because the squad is viewed negatively by any person in the Country with an ounce of sense. I can see how you might misconstrue that if you hadn't read both thoughts thoroughly. No problem.

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