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Jul 23, 2019 22:02:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
Trump is the first president to have a disorder named after him.


True enough

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Jul 23, 2019 22:18:24   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes you do have TDS though not the deadly variety. It is just as virulent on the left and right.


If it is not the deadly variety, I have not been clear. As far as for many of the left and right, true.

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Jul 23, 2019 22:20:01   #
rumitoid
 
slatten49 wrote:
True enough


And rightfully so, both positively and negatively.

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Jul 23, 2019 22:34:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
son of witless wrote:
Trump Youth, and their uniforms ?????????????????????????????????????????????

There ain't no such aminal. However, if you want to see strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ty7WU872Lk


Obama Youth Brigade March in Uniform

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Jul 23, 2019 22:36:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Rose42 wrote:
Trump is the first president to have a disorder named after him.


Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) strikes again in new bio of 43rd president

By Seth Mandel

August 18, 2016 | 8:05pm

Bush Derangement Syndrome claims another victim.

The malady, identified and defined by Charles Krauthammer as “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush,” has struck eminent historian Jean Edward Smith.

Though I think after this we can safely part ways with the “eminent” part of that title.

Smith has written critically acclaimed biographies of FDR, Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Marshall. Now he’s published one of George W. Bush.

It’s so replete with factual errors and baseless assertions that it should call Smith’s credibility into question, make us re-examine his previous work and confront the crisis that the left’s politicization of history has brought about.

At Foreign Policy’s website, Will Inboden does a mammoth fact-check and concludes, as the headline has it, “It’s Impossible to Count the Things Wrong With the Negligent, Spurious, Distorted New Biography of George W. Bush.” Inboden worked at the State Department and National Security Council for five years during the Bush administration, so he isn’t neutral, but he is in a position to know what Smith got wrong.

And it’s a lot.

There are some big mistakes, like using a fabricated Bush quote to back up his claims that Bush wanted to invade Iraq for religious reasons, and using a fabricated Karl Rove quote as the foundation for “an entire chapter purportedly exploring the intellectual framework of the Bush administration.”

Then there are the smaller unt***hs that are so numerous as to make a very big difference: “I eventually stopped counting and am almost sure I missed some,” Inboden writes, before detailing a list. “Individually, each of these errors may be trivial, but collectively they display a sloppiness that undermines confidence in the integrity of the research and the reliability of the conclusions.”

He asks not only what Smith was thinking but why Smith’s editors and publisher seemingly went AWOL. It’s a good question, but it has an uncomfortably simple answer: It is considered acceptable to lie outright about George W. Bush in any setting — and that includes academia and historiography.

Much of the “journalism” on Dubya is a case study in the moral and ethical bankruptcy of a lot of news outlets. But media bias is nothing new. The more striking aspect of Bush Derangement Syndrome is how it has infected supposedly apolitical spheres of knowledge.

That’s a key point made in “Rush to Judgment,” historian Stephen F. Knott’s excellent and perennially relevant book on Bush’s critics.

“Although presidents have always been the target of heated rhetoric from their political opponents and the media, much of the demagoguery directed toward President Bush came from historians and political scientists, including those who consider themselves p**********l scholars,” he writes. “This is a relatively new and disturbing development.”

Knott goes on to show academics and historians — Arthur Schlesinger Jr., Robert Dallek, Sean Wilentz, Douglas Brinkley, Gary Wills, Joyce Appleby, H.W. Brands, Jack Rakove, Howard Koh and current Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, to name a few — completely losing their sense of perspective and offering patently false claims about Bush intended to show a president ushering in the end of democracy in America. Or, as Wills put it, Bush’s re-e******n was “the day the enlightenment went out.”

But Jean Edward Smith wasn’t doing this in an interview or an op-ed. He went for the jugular — an 800-page biography.

It isn’t even just getting facts wrong. Smith totally abandons the pretense of honest historiography with snide asides that should have been — and used to be — beneath him. Just one example: the section on Hurricane Katrina.

Smith writes that Bush sat in on a conference call about the coming storm and then gave a planned speech about Iraq. Then he writes: “When he completed his remarks, he had the rest of the day to himself. He did not consider what action the federal government might take concerning Katrina, or order any special pr********ns.

“It was vacation time in Texas.”

Wow, Smith knows exactly what thoughts went through Bush’s mind ahead of a national emergency? Of course not. (And will distinguished historians say the same of President Obama, currently refusing to end his vacation as Louisiana deals with another natural disaster?)

T***h is, it’s tough to write a full biography of a president so long before the necessary documents are unclassified. But Smith knows that. He didn’t set out to write a complete, accurate biography. He set out to write a run-on hit job barely worthy of conspiratorial corners of the blogosphere.

And in doing so, he yet again demonstrated how liberal hatred of Bush has corrupted American institutions.

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Jul 23, 2019 23:01:22   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) strikes again in new bio of 43rd president

By Seth Mandel

August 18, 2016 | 8:05pm

Bush Derangement Syndrome claims another victim.

The malady, identified and defined by Charles Krauthammer as “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush,” has struck eminent historian Jean Edward Smith.

Though I think after this we can safely part ways with the “eminent” part of that title.

Smith has written critically acclaimed biographies of FDR, Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Marshall. Now he’s published one of George W. Bush.

It’s so replete with factual errors and baseless assertions that it should call Smith’s credibility into question, make us re-examine his previous work and confront the crisis that the left’s politicization of history has brought about.

At Foreign Policy’s website, Will Inboden does a mammoth fact-check and concludes, as the headline has it, “It’s Impossible to Count the Things Wrong With the Negligent, Spurious, Distorted New Biography of George W. Bush.” Inboden worked at the State Department and National Security Council for five years during the Bush administration, so he isn’t neutral, but he is in a position to know what Smith got wrong.

And it’s a lot.

There are some big mistakes, like using a fabricated Bush quote to back up his claims that Bush wanted to invade Iraq for religious reasons, and using a fabricated Karl Rove quote as the foundation for “an entire chapter purportedly exploring the intellectual framework of the Bush administration.”

Then there are the smaller unt***hs that are so numerous as to make a very big difference: “I eventually stopped counting and am almost sure I missed some,” Inboden writes, before detailing a list. “Individually, each of these errors may be trivial, but collectively they display a sloppiness that undermines confidence in the integrity of the research and the reliability of the conclusions.”

He asks not only what Smith was thinking but why Smith’s editors and publisher seemingly went AWOL. It’s a good question, but it has an uncomfortably simple answer: It is considered acceptable to lie outright about George W. Bush in any setting — and that includes academia and historiography.

Much of the “journalism” on Dubya is a case study in the moral and ethical bankruptcy of a lot of news outlets. But media bias is nothing new. The more striking aspect of Bush Derangement Syndrome is how it has infected supposedly apolitical spheres of knowledge.

That’s a key point made in “Rush to Judgment,” historian Stephen F. Knott’s excellent and perennially relevant book on Bush’s critics.

“Although presidents have always been the target of heated rhetoric from their political opponents and the media, much of the demagoguery directed toward President Bush came from historians and political scientists, including those who consider themselves p**********l scholars,” he writes. “This is a relatively new and disturbing development.”

Knott goes on to show academics and historians — Arthur Schlesinger Jr., Robert Dallek, Sean Wilentz, Douglas Brinkley, Gary Wills, Joyce Appleby, H.W. Brands, Jack Rakove, Howard Koh and current Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, to name a few — completely losing their sense of perspective and offering patently false claims about Bush intended to show a president ushering in the end of democracy in America. Or, as Wills put it, Bush’s re-e******n was “the day the enlightenment went out.”

But Jean Edward Smith wasn’t doing this in an interview or an op-ed. He went for the jugular — an 800-page biography.

It isn’t even just getting facts wrong. Smith totally abandons the pretense of honest historiography with snide asides that should have been — and used to be — beneath him. Just one example: the section on Hurricane Katrina.

Smith writes that Bush sat in on a conference call about the coming storm and then gave a planned speech about Iraq. Then he writes: “When he completed his remarks, he had the rest of the day to himself. He did not consider what action the federal government might take concerning Katrina, or order any special pr********ns.

“It was vacation time in Texas.”

Wow, Smith knows exactly what thoughts went through Bush’s mind ahead of a national emergency? Of course not. (And will distinguished historians say the same of President Obama, currently refusing to end his vacation as Louisiana deals with another natural disaster?)

T***h is, it’s tough to write a full biography of a president so long before the necessary documents are unclassified. But Smith knows that. He didn’t set out to write a complete, accurate biography. He set out to write a run-on hit job barely worthy of conspiratorial corners of the blogosphere.

And in doing so, he yet again demonstrated how liberal hatred of Bush has corrupted American institutions.
b Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) strikes again i... (show quote)


A person writes a supposedly bad book and we are to turn a blind eye to the absolutely terrible presidency that almost destroyed America by its policies toward Wall Street and cost trillions of dollars over false information that embroiled us in a perpetual losing place in the Middle East. All those lives lost on both sides just a booboo by Bush? Please!

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Jul 24, 2019 01:13:15   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
A person writes a supposedly bad book and we are to turn a blind eye to the absolutely terrible presidency that almost destroyed America by its policies toward Wall Street and cost trillions of dollars over false information that embroiled us in a perpetual losing place in the Middle East. All those lives lost on both sides just a booboo by Bush? Please!
Yeah, please, your chronic case of oral diarrhea is really getting tiresome, not to mention psychotic. Constantly spamming this board with OpEds on how much you despise the man. Anger, hostility, vitriol, vexation, hatred, bile, condemnation, I mean this is godly stuff, bubba, I'm sure the Lord looks favorably on this.

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Jul 24, 2019 06:27:09   #
Idaho
 


Thanks for posting that Blade. Hadn’t seen it before.

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Jul 24, 2019 07:02:41   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) strikes again in new bio of 43rd president

By Seth Mandel

August 18, 2016 | 8:05pm

Bush Derangement Syndrome claims another victim.

The malady, identified and defined by Charles Krauthammer as “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush,” has struck eminent historian Jean Edward Smith.

Though I think after this we can safely part ways with the “eminent” part of that title.

Smith has written critically acclaimed biographies of FDR, Eisenhower, Ulysses Grant and John Marshall. Now he’s published one of George W. Bush.

It’s so replete with factual errors and baseless assertions that it should call Smith’s credibility into question, make us re-examine his previous work and confront the crisis that the left’s politicization of history has brought about.

At Foreign Policy’s website, Will Inboden does a mammoth fact-check and concludes, as the headline has it, “It’s Impossible to Count the Things Wrong With the Negligent, Spurious, Distorted New Biography of George W. Bush.” Inboden worked at the State Department and National Security Council for five years during the Bush administration, so he isn’t neutral, but he is in a position to know what Smith got wrong.

And it’s a lot.

There are some big mistakes, like using a fabricated Bush quote to back up his claims that Bush wanted to invade Iraq for religious reasons, and using a fabricated Karl Rove quote as the foundation for “an entire chapter purportedly exploring the intellectual framework of the Bush administration.”

Then there are the smaller unt***hs that are so numerous as to make a very big difference: “I eventually stopped counting and am almost sure I missed some,” Inboden writes, before detailing a list. “Individually, each of these errors may be trivial, but collectively they display a sloppiness that undermines confidence in the integrity of the research and the reliability of the conclusions.”

He asks not only what Smith was thinking but why Smith’s editors and publisher seemingly went AWOL. It’s a good question, but it has an uncomfortably simple answer: It is considered acceptable to lie outright about George W. Bush in any setting — and that includes academia and historiography.

Much of the “journalism” on Dubya is a case study in the moral and ethical bankruptcy of a lot of news outlets. But media bias is nothing new. The more striking aspect of Bush Derangement Syndrome is how it has infected supposedly apolitical spheres of knowledge.

That’s a key point made in “Rush to Judgment,” historian Stephen F. Knott’s excellent and perennially relevant book on Bush’s critics.

“Although presidents have always been the target of heated rhetoric from their political opponents and the media, much of the demagoguery directed toward President Bush came from historians and political scientists, including those who consider themselves p**********l scholars,” he writes. “This is a relatively new and disturbing development.”

Knott goes on to show academics and historians — Arthur Schlesinger Jr., Robert Dallek, Sean Wilentz, Douglas Brinkley, Gary Wills, Joyce Appleby, H.W. Brands, Jack Rakove, Howard Koh and current Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan, to name a few — completely losing their sense of perspective and offering patently false claims about Bush intended to show a president ushering in the end of democracy in America. Or, as Wills put it, Bush’s re-e******n was “the day the enlightenment went out.”

But Jean Edward Smith wasn’t doing this in an interview or an op-ed. He went for the jugular — an 800-page biography.

It isn’t even just getting facts wrong. Smith totally abandons the pretense of honest historiography with snide asides that should have been — and used to be — beneath him. Just one example: the section on Hurricane Katrina.

Smith writes that Bush sat in on a conference call about the coming storm and then gave a planned speech about Iraq. Then he writes: “When he completed his remarks, he had the rest of the day to himself. He did not consider what action the federal government might take concerning Katrina, or order any special pr********ns.

“It was vacation time in Texas.”

Wow, Smith knows exactly what thoughts went through Bush’s mind ahead of a national emergency? Of course not. (And will distinguished historians say the same of President Obama, currently refusing to end his vacation as Louisiana deals with another natural disaster?)

T***h is, it’s tough to write a full biography of a president so long before the necessary documents are unclassified. But Smith knows that. He didn’t set out to write a complete, accurate biography. He set out to write a run-on hit job barely worthy of conspiratorial corners of the blogosphere.

And in doing so, he yet again demonstrated how liberal hatred of Bush has corrupted American institutions.
b Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) strikes again i... (show quote)


I didn’t remember that.

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Jul 24, 2019 07:30:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
I didn’t remember that.

Admittedly, neither did I, and I read Krauthammer quite regularly.

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Jul 24, 2019 08:02:43   #
Big dog
 
son of witless wrote:
Trump Youth, and their uniforms ?????????????????????????????????????????????

There ain't no such aminal. However, if you want to see strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ty7WU872Lk


THAT’S indoctrination!

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Jul 24, 2019 09:21:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
rumitoid wrote:
Trump’s speech on Tuesday, which was part of the conservative group Turning Point USA’s Teen Student Action Summit, lasted more than 80 minutes. Many of the young people in the crowd wore Trump’s trademark red “Make America Great Again” hats and pins that said “I Love Capitalism.” Some waved signs distributed by Turning Point that said, “THEY H**E U.S. CUZ THEY AIN’T U.S.” There no armbands present, for now.

The president was introduced with a biographical video that said Trump was “socially popular with men and women” as a youth. It went on to recount his 2016 p**********l campaign with footage of highlights including Trump mocking Republican candidate Jeb Bush and Clinton. The crowd roared even as the footage showed Trump making promises that weren’t kept, including having Mexico pay for a wall on the southern border and appointing a special prosecutor to put Clinton in “jail.” As Trump spoke, the cheers continued with periodic shouts of “I love you!” punctuating the president’s lengthy speech.

But of course Trump had to lie to make his point because without the lies he had no point. All he is left with without deception is his narcissism and h**e.

He started with Ocasio-Cortez. “She called our country and our people ‘garbage,’” Trump said. “She said ‘garbage.’” Ocasio-Cortez has never described the country with that term.

Trump then presented his rationale for “calling out” the four congresswomen, claiming they had talked about “evil Jews,” though none have done so.

Trump’s attacks on the four congresswomen have sparked some observers to speculate he is trying to goad Democrats into calling him a r****t in order to galvanize his supporters. However, it’s unclear whether his attacks are indeed part of a strategy, or simply Trump saying what is on his mind.
Trump’s speech on Tuesday, which was part of the c... (show quote)

Is there no low to which you will not go?

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Jul 24, 2019 16:07:54   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
You're pathetic. Just plain pathetic! You disgust me!
You claim to have gone on a vacation where you met salt of the earth people, and it was an epiphany for you, and have already swung the other way, right back to where you were!!
Post after post bashing Trump, and the people you claimed gave you a different perspective.

Bump off Rumi!!
You aren't honest in the least!


I never changed my perspective on Trump, no epiphany there, none possible. The man is a direct threat to America. What changed was to better humanize the right in my eyes and not make it an us and them fight. If you read a few of my recent threads you will see that is true. If you read some of my recent comments, you will also see that is true. And I am not bashing Trump; I am simply revealing the t***h of what he is. You may not like that I hold such a low opinion of that individual but that doesn't change what he is. That you do not see him as I do could disgust me. I am stunned people on the Right let him get away with so much BS and lies. But my lesson on the road was not to judge or even comment on their support. I saw them as decent people and that deserves to honor their choices.

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Jul 24, 2019 17:57:30   #
Carol Kelly
 
rumitoid wrote:
Trump’s speech on Tuesday, which was part of the conservative group Turning Point USA’s Teen Student Action Summit, lasted more than 80 minutes. Many of the young people in the crowd wore Trump’s trademark red “Make America Great Again” hats and pins that said “I Love Capitalism.” Some waved signs distributed by Turning Point that said, “THEY H**E U.S. CUZ THEY AIN’T U.S.” There no armbands present, for now.

The president was introduced with a biographical video that said Trump was “socially popular with men and women” as a youth. It went on to recount his 2016 p**********l campaign with footage of highlights including Trump mocking Republican candidate Jeb Bush and Clinton. The crowd roared even as the footage showed Trump making promises that weren’t kept, including having Mexico pay for a wall on the southern border and appointing a special prosecutor to put Clinton in “jail.” As Trump spoke, the cheers continued with periodic shouts of “I love you!” punctuating the president’s lengthy speech.

But of course Trump had to lie to make his point because without the lies he had no point. All he is left with without deception is his narcissism and h**e.

He started with Ocasio-Cortez. “She called our country and our people ‘garbage,’” Trump said. “She said ‘garbage.’” Ocasio-Cortez has never described the country with that term.

Trump then presented his rationale for “calling out” the four congresswomen, claiming they had talked about “evil Jews,” though none have done so.

Trump’s attacks on the four congresswomen have sparked some observers to speculate he is trying to goad Democrats into calling him a r****t in order to galvanize his supporters. However, it’s unclear whether his attacks are indeed part of a strategy, or simply Trump saying what is on his mind.
Trump’s speech on Tuesday, which was part of the c... (show quote)


You need to stop.

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Jul 24, 2019 18:04:51   #
rumitoid
 


I watched the video. A group of young man thankful for the inspiration and opportunity Obama gave them as president. Very uplifting in its cause and aspirations. What has that to with the raucous young conservatives at Trump's rally cheering his biased rancor and chanting h**eful slogans? Worlds apart in tenor and motives. Those kids in the video were simply cheerleaders for the man that gave them hope. Cheerleaders wear the same uniform.

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