Ok lets talk about...unwanted guests. (Page 2): What???????!!!!!!....Am i about to have heart attack?????!!!!! Did i read it right that you actually agree with President's new Border...

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Lonewolf wrote:

As we get older and less people are working we need young people I'm the work force do we need a lot of people coming in.
I liked Trump's new border rule I think it should inculed if you want to apply for entry you must do it at a legal. Port of entry. Fence jumpers will be returned and if caught again they will be named for life.

What???????!!!!!!....Am i about to have heart attack?????!!!!! Did i read it right that you actually agree with President's new Border rule,Lone???

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

If these guests are so unwanted, how come Americans keep paying them to work here?
We've been paying i*****l i*******ts for decades.

These are not unwanted guests....they are the people who feed and shelter us:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/undocumented-deportation-agriculture-dairy-meat-iowa-wisconsin.html

son of witless

proud republican wrote:

What???????!!!!!!....Am i about to have heart atta... (show quote)

Maybe if you pound t***h into someone's skull long enough a little will leak into the cracks.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

working class stiff wrote:

If these guests are so unwanted, how come Americans keep paying them to work here?
We've been paying i*****l i*******ts for decades.

These are not unwanted guests....they are the people who feed and shelter us:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/undocumented-deportation-agriculture-dairy-meat-iowa-wisconsin.html

And i do not agree with that,WCS....I am sure that if employer would pay decent wages,Americans who really need a job will do agriculture jobs no problem....IMHO

Lonewolf

proud republican wrote:

What???????!!!!!!....Am i about to have heart atta... (show quote)

Yes I sorry I didn't warn you to sit down before you opened the post!

Lonewolf

proud republican wrote:

And i do not agree with that,WCS....I am sure that if employer would pay decent wages,Americans who really need a job will do agriculture jobs no problem....IMHO

Your right I will say I took a few jobs in wa state that only mecicans do.
First was tree planting now they only pay pennies per tree don't remember I only lasted 1 day.
When I applied the guy said ill hire you but I have never had a white man that could do it.
Little while later I knew what he was talking about I was on the side of this mountain with a canvess bag h*****g on my next with a ton of tiny trees in it you take you during tool forgot name kind of like a one sided pick. You swing it push the handel exposing the dirt stick the tree in and step on it another step repeat this it only took half hour and my back was hurting so much I wanted to screem .i looked around and noticed the Mexicans were way up the mountain from me. I went home.

Next pree commercial tree thinig as the sun came up me and 6 Mexicans each holding a chain saw stood at the base of the mountain and were told we would meet around noon at the top. We had to make sure trees weren't growing to close to each other which is 12 feet
Then go to the left till you meet the guy to the left then to the right till you meet the guy on the right. I made it till noon. And my back gave out, I worked that job 4 days before I realized
That my back was never going to stop hurting my pay ck was 28 dollars.
I got drunk and the desision to give this line of work.

bggamers Loc: georgia

Lonewolf wrote:

As we get older and less people are working we need young people I'm the work force do we need a lot of people coming in.
I liked Trump's new border rule I think it should inculed if you want to apply for entry you must do it at a legal. Port of entry. Fence jumpers will be returned and if caught again they will be named for life.

son of witless

Lonewolf wrote:

Your right I will say I took a few jobs in wa stat... (show quote)

Did it ever occur to you that if the Mexicans were not there they would have paid you more and given you more help ?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

working class stiff wrote:

If these guests are so unwanted, how come Americans keep paying them to work here?
We've been paying i*****l i*******ts for decades.

These are not unwanted guests....they are the people who feed and shelter us:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/undocumented-deportation-agriculture-dairy-meat-iowa-wisconsin.html

truly?

The majority of those illegally crossing the border are hard working individuals? Seems like the kind of information that would require some statistics to back it to...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

working class stiff wrote:

If these guests are so unwanted, how come Americans keep paying them to work here?
We've been paying i*****l i*******ts for decades.

These are not unwanted guests....they are the people who feed and shelter us:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/undocumented-deportation-agriculture-dairy-meat-iowa-wisconsin.html

Have read the article... 25% of maids, 20% of cooks, over 30 percent of farm workers, etc etc... Seems like a quarter of your nation is made up of i*****l i*******ts...And not a single one is selling drugs or collecting welfare...

Lonewolf

son of witless wrote:

Did it ever occur to you that if the Mexicans were not there, they would have paid you more and given you more help?

Not really stoop labor is hard on a 50 some year old. But I'm sure 30 years younger I would have been able to do it.
So your right, if they paid more young guys could do this!
These guys made good money, but they busted their ass to do it.

Lonewolf

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Have read the article... 25% of maids, 20% of cooks, over 30 percent of farm workers, etc etc... Seems like a quarter of your nation is made up of i*****l i*******ts...And not a single one is selling drugs or collecting welfare...

I lived in an area that had a lot of them and found them hard-working and willing to do anything and scrapes with the law were few.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

truly?

The majority of those illegally crossing the border are hard working individuals? Seems like the kind of information that would require some statistics to back it to...

Since one of the objections to the i******s is that they take Americans' jobs (something I doubt), that objection assumes they are out there hustling, doesn't it? Can't have it both ways.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/workforce-economy/illegal-aliens-taking-us-jobs

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Lonewolf wrote:

Your right I will say I took a few jobs in wa stat... (show quote)

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Have read the article... 25% of maids, 20% of cooks, over 30 percent of farm workers, etc etc... Seems like a quarter of your nation is made up of i*****l i*******ts...And not a single one is selling drugs or collecting welfare...

Not a quarter of the whole....just highly represented in certain sectors of the economy.

It would be foolish to say not one sells drugs or collects welfare. They don't sell as many as American opiod manufacturers, but then those guys are pros. As for welfare and who gets it:
https://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-vs-social-welfare/

But I'm not an outlier when it comes to stating that Americans are at fault for i*****l i*********n:

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/332397-its-time-for-the-feds-to-go-after-those-who-employ-illegal

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-22/is-ice-finally-targeting-employers-of-illegal-workers