Mikeyavelli

Now that somalian female dog might get sent back.
She's successfully hiding her crimes for now, but when the records are exposed, she's going back home where she belongs.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Somehow I think she’ll skate. I hope not. She’s a criminal.

Mikeyavelli

She's a lefty darling, she'll skate.

JohnCorrespondent

Good question. Good hint.

JohnCorrespondent

Right!

< 5 words.

JohnCorrespondent

Well said.

JohnCorrespondent

For most of that, Iran and Iraq can truly say similar things about the U.S.

Iran and Iraq do not seem any more primitive in their thinking than is the U.S.

Basically, they have the same justifications for having nuclear energy and nuclear weapons as the U.S. does.

JohnCorrespondent

That's a good reply.

JohnCorrespondent

That is an interesting reply.

Yes, "... Christians have drawn plenty of blood".

(You said "conservative Christians" but the word "conservative" has a variety of meanings so I left it off.)

Yes, "right wing" tends to be more terrorist than any particular religion is.

About religions:

Many religions, such as Christianity, are what I call exclusive, because they exclude other religions or other people.

A few religions are not so exclusive like that. In _The Religions of Man_ by Huston Smith, the philosophy or structure of Hinduism seems _inclusive_, in my opinion. I've learned a little about Bahai and about Unitarian Universalism, and I find them more _inclusive_ than most religions are. A Bahai or a Unitarian Universalist would be likely to acknowledge that there's some t***h, and lessons we can learn, from most religions.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

I guess that means you h**e the Jews, too.

JohnCorrespondent

Thus far (within this reply from you) you haven't accomplished anything except assert "no" and assert a bias on one side.

It is true that fact-"adjusting" and to "leave out" are typical parts of bias.



Yes, you're right about looking at some opposing media. I occasionally do so, but not often. It's quite a chore. I suppose it's similarly disagreeable for you to look at "liberal" media.

"Liberal" media have (among _their_ biases) at least one bias that I recognize easily. It's something about g****r. My experiences and reading have allowed me to perceive that particular bias. After having heard it too much, now when it comes on the radio I change channels. Listening is one thing, but being endlessly insulted (or endlessly "left out") is another.

Virtually all media and virtually all people are presumably biased one way or another.

I've seen a couple of authors each declare his bias up front. One said everyone has a bias and here's his. The other said his book is biased in order to counter-balance the big bias that's already being expressed on the opposite side.

I hope it is easier to read a more personalized response such as this one, than to read some "liberal" news source at some link I'd send you.



I keep seeing this acronym (but only in this forum): "MSM", but haven't learned what it stands for yet. Please expand it once in a while.



Yes I'm sure that "somewhere out there on the www" can be found this and also opposing views, depending on which sites one looks at.

I agree that (in the world, in recent years) there have been "acid attacks"; I think Malala may have mentioned those in her book "I Am Malala". The acid attacks that I've read about are people such as the Taliban attacking girls or women who do things that a group such as the Taliban disapproves of. This is one kind of (so-called) "Muslim" attacking a different kind of "Muslim". I haven't heard of any acid attacks occurring in the U.S. yet. The most current "Christian" equivalent might be the mass shootings here, where some ethnically "Christian" person shoots a lot of random people in a public place.



Well, who is invading whom? Immigrants come here. The CIA and the U.S. military continue to go there (a multitude of places all over the world).

Wh**ever is a "new world order" you are sure to make the phrase sound sinister. If you want to be convincing to those who don't already agree with you, you need to be more specific about what thing or things in the "new world order" you object to. Expansion of capitalism is one kind of "new world order" which many on the right appear to support. I doubt you're against _every_ kind of new world order.

When I hear some of these things for the first time, I get a "first impression" which is hard to shake. I've already heard of "invasion", "g*******ts", "Christian", "Muslims", "new world order", and "Democratic Party" all as described or mentioned by right-wing "Conservative" Republicans, and they did not seem credible, and ever since then I haven't paid much attention when the same kinds of people keep repeating those same words and phrases.

That is, my ears and mind were originally open to them, but then when they sounded like dummies just repeating the same insults and things that contradicted my own experience and my own logic, I stopped paying much attention to them and turned elsewhere to look for commentary or news that did not seem as insulting, mindless, or ignorant.



That's true of people on both sides. As I was saying, I do occasionally look at alternatives, just not often.

One way to try to overcome bias (on both sides) is to trade sources. That is, for example I'd read something you suggest and you'd read something I suggest. What I've been doing instead is to write my own thoughts and logic and (in some discussions) make short quotes from some article which I then cite. I don't expect the people to read the whole article, just the short quotes I took from it.

One time I did study a whole long article that someone had cited and critiqued the whole thing. I think that was somewhere in OPP (One Political Plaza).

I was out in a street protest several years ago and there was a counter-protest _right_ _next_ to us, even harassing us. I spent quite a lot of time listening to a couple of people from the other side. (At other times I've asked an opposite side protest for their flyer.) On a later day in the same protest series, one of them brought a stack of paper about a foot thick to give me to read, but I said no. Anyone can produce a stack of paper a foot thick. How much of your time are you going to allow them to commandeer?



Some are; some aren't. There's a procedure for evaluating asylum requests. What I heard was that the Trump Administration drastically reduced funding for the evaluation process; and what I think (while also hearing what Trump says about people coming to our southern border) is that Trump and his followers prefer to pre-judge rather than to have actual fair evaluations of asylum seekers.

Having been to court many times (auto-disclaimer: i-am-not-an-attorney) in this country which has such a high opinion of its own justice system, and having seen and heard first-hand how it really behaves, it's really easy for me to believe other people's accounts of being treated unfairly.

Seth

There has been a left wing takeover of much of the media and education system, as well as the Democratic Party.

Look at what it has "accomplished."

There are legitimate threats to our economy, our sovereignty and our safety that originate outside the U.S. yet are gradually establishing their beachheads on U.S. soil.

There are g*******ts who want to draw America into a one world government, one run left-wing style, meaning abolishment of our constitution and replacement by one giving us limited rights as compared to those we now enjoy. In order to accomplish this, our economy has to be in the doghouse, our culture has to be diluted and both public morale and trust in our present form of government have to be eroded to near non-existence.

There is a serious threat to our safety by militant Islam. The Muslim population in America continues to grow and they are making inroads to our political system, their politicians boldly criticizing America as it is and our relationship with Israel. There are militant training camps and very well trained reconnaissance people here in CONUS. This country has more than its share of enemies who mean business, and there are those of us who see it for what it is. There are those of us who are knowingly watching history repeat itself and who want to prevent what we see happening from reaching fruition. Thanks to the MSM (mainstream media) and the left wing influence in the Democratic Party along with a long running, boiling frog delivered propaganda campaign, "liberals" in America have been so successfully indoctrinated that you view those of us who actually want to prevent tragedy for this country as the enemy while viewing the enemy as benevolent and harmless.

Even the massive "caravans" of would-be "refugees" deluging our southern border are being assembled and originated by design, using the greed of "coyotes" (professional human traffickers) and the ambitions of Mexican drug cartels to implement what amounts to mass confusion along the border with the same MSM and Democratic Party turning what amounts to a mini-invasion into a "humanitarian" crisis with the Trump Administration, ICE and the Border Patrol depicted as the villains.

As I said before, the "information" imparted by the MSM leaves out more vital information than it includes, and those who count entirely on those venues for knowledge of current events are clueless where the real threats are concerned. You simply never have a clue that certain things, such as the above, are occurring, while you're being slammed with misdirection aimed at focusing your attention on conservatives as the "bad guys."

That works effectively to cultivate the "liberal" belief that everyone but conservatives has America's and the American people's best interests at heart, and casts an actually excellent president who literally puts America and Americans first as an enemy of the state.

And it is all being digested by a lot of Americans without question, hook, line and sinker, a masterful job of propaganda fooling a very large segment of the U.S. population, millions of people who believe they're too smart to be fooled being bamboozled by people who have a century of propagandizing experience to draw on.

This is not the first mass con job in history, and it won't be the last.

Mikeyavelli

...I'm going to wait for the movie.

Seth

....with a loaded rifle at hand.

Fig A: At hand @✋

JohnCorrespondent

Earlier:


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How so? What did I say that "means" that?

It looks like you're mighty quick to use the phrase "h**e the Jews" accusingly.

Also, _which_ Jews would that be? All of them?