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Jul 14, 2019 09:10:16   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The reaction is now predictable: Argue for treating undocumented immigrants humanely on American soil and you’ll find yourself accused of believing in “open borders.” As if it’s a binary, either/or position. You either believe in building Trump’s “Great Wall.” You believe in separating children from their parents at the U.S. border. You believe in removing undocumented immigrants from the country who have lived here for decades. Or you believe in “open borders.” It’s a blunt rhetorical trick. It’s crass. But it works. So it’s employed by everyone from the current president down to the many supporters and trolls who carry his water on social media.

https://medium.com/s/story/few-americans-want-open-borders-democrats-included-dba12884c133

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Jul 14, 2019 09:46:20   #
Kevyn
 
bmac32 wrote:
The reaction is now predictable: Argue for treating undocumented immigrants humanely on American soil and you’ll find yourself accused of believing in “open borders.” As if it’s a binary, either/or position. You either believe in building Trump’s “Great Wall.” You believe in separating children from their parents at the U.S. border. You believe in removing undocumented immigrants from the country who have lived here for decades. Or you believe in “open borders.” It’s a blunt rhetorical trick. It’s crass. But it works. So it’s employed by everyone from the current president down to the many supporters and trolls who carry his water on social media.

https://medium.com/s/story/few-americans-want-open-borders-democrats-included-dba12884c133
The reaction is now predictable: Argue for treatin... (show quote)


Democrats do not believe in open borders, what we do believe in is honoring our legal and treaty obligations to assist refugees.

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Jul 14, 2019 09:52:48   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Well you fool the American people!




Kevyn wrote:
Democrats do not believe in open borders, what we do believe in is honoring our legal and treaty obligations to assist refugees.

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Jul 14, 2019 09:54:46   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
Democrats do not believe in open borders, what we do believe in is honoring our legal and treaty obligations to assist refugees.


This is the t***h. I would like to know why equitable treatment of immigrants is considered a bad thing and an open border policy. Is it American the way immigrants in detention facilities are being treated? Is the final solution going to happen here?

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Jul 14, 2019 10:01:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
This is the t***h. I would like to know why equitable treatment of immigrants is considered a bad thing and an open border policy. Is it American the way immigrants in detention facilities are being treated? Is the final solution going to happen here?


Hi Tom...

Hope you have been well...

Immigrants come to a country legally and with the intentions of working hard and obeying the law...

They should not be conflated with refugees or i*****l a***ns... It is demeaning to immigrants to do so...

I know of no cases where immigrants have been poorly treated at the border... Do you?

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Jul 14, 2019 10:11:24   #
Gatsby
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
This is the t***h. I would like to know why equitable treatment of immigrants is considered a bad thing and an open border policy. Is it American the way immigrants in detention facilities are being treated? Is the final solution going to happen here?


I find the fact that you fail to differentiate between legal immigrants, and i*****l i*******ts,

to be both interesting and enlightening.

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Jul 14, 2019 10:21:24   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
This is the t***h. I would like to know why equitable treatment of immigrants is considered a bad thing and an open border policy. Is it American the way immigrants in detention facilities are being treated? Is the final solution going to happen here?


Mornin Tom.

In my opinion, those who don't come here legally are criminal aliens. Not immigrants. Immigrants go through the proper channels, and follow the law.

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Jul 14, 2019 10:36:33   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Democrats say all immigrants are legal, I say BS. if you come here at a border crossing and have all your paperwork filled out with proof when maybe after all that paperwork so checked out you will get in.





archie bunker wrote:
Mornin Tom.

In my opinion, those who don't come here legally are criminal aliens. Not immigrants. Immigrants go through the proper channels, and follow the law.

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Jul 14, 2019 10:41:04   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
bmac32 wrote:
Democrats say all immigrants are legal, I say BS. if you come here at a border crossing and have all your paperwork filled out with proof when maybe after all that paperwork so checked out you will get in.


All the while screaming "RULE OF LAW" and "CONSTITUTION"!

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Jul 14, 2019 10:59:33   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Even Obama followed this law.




archie bunker wrote:
All the while screaming "RULE OF LAW" and "CONSTITUTION"!

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Jul 14, 2019 15:54:08   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hi Tom...

Hope you have been well...

Immigrants come to a country legally and with the intentions of working hard and obeying the law...

They should not be conflated with refugees or i*****l a***ns... It is demeaning to immigrants to do so...

I know of no cases where immigrants have been poorly treated at the border... Do you?


Not that I have personally witnessed.
However it is all over the news that Immigrants are being kept in squalid conditions. There are people saying this is not true and that all the news about it and pictures are from the Obama and Clinton administrations. Some one is a liar and a gaslighter.

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Jul 14, 2019 15:57:14   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
Mornin Tom.

In my opinion, those who don't come here legally are criminal aliens. Not immigrants. Immigrants go through the proper channels, and follow the law.


Illegal is just that. Is it true that even immigrants coming to the front door and asking for asylum are being caged and held indefinitely and in unsanitary un healthy conditions.?

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Jul 14, 2019 15:58:49   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Gatsby wrote:
I find the fact that you fail to differentiate between legal immigrants, and i*****l i*******ts,

to be both interesting and enlightening.


Either way are they still being mistreated? Am I to doubt every news broadcast as f**e on this subject.

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Jul 14, 2019 16:06:48   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
What's mistreatment? Go to Mexico and get caught with pot, now that is mistreatment!





Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Either way are they still being mistreated? Am I to doubt every news broadcast as f**e on this subject.

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Jul 14, 2019 16:15:37   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Illegal is just that. Is it true that even immigrants coming to the front door and asking for asylum are being caged and held indefinitely and in unsanitary un healthy conditions.?


Front door? They are storming the border. The front door is through embassies, and legal means.
Tom,
Let's push to change the asylum laws if you're so worried about these folks that you don't have to deal with. My state has been invaded, and I'm s**k of it! We all are!
Recently, my son kicked a roofing crew off his property because not a one spoke English, or could produce an ID. All wetbacks.

That's in your wheelhouse, and could eventually affect you. Why are you so squishy on this?

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