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Jul 14, 2019 02:21:41   #
Ricktloml
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
In other words, the practice of homosexuality, no just being homosexual, is the unending sin. It is forgivable if it is avoided. But a practicing homosexual? That's kind of like a practicing liar or murderer! Right??


That is my take. God loves ALL his children, He doesn't always love what we do, especially when we reject, or twist His guidance and commandments. There is NO scientific or medical proof that homosexuals are in fact "born that way", so when you CHOOSE to reject His word, you also are rejecting His blessings. You may still have God's love, but you don't get the rewards you get with true obedience. And obeying God BENEFITS each and everyone of us. It is when we work at odds with God that life becomes more difficult

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Jul 14, 2019 02:35:27   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
In other words, the practice of homosexuality, no just being homosexual, is the unending sin. It is forgivable if it is avoided. But a practicing homosexual? That's kind of like a practicing liar or murderer! Right??
Wrong. Question is: what are you driving at? Is this an indictment of Christian beliefs, or is it a defense of sin, or is it both?

As I recall, you have made it known that you believe "Gawd" is a fiction, the Bible is bulls**t, and all Christians are fools. So, what exactly is your point in challenging the concept of sin?

Bottom line: when two (or more) dudes pull out their blue veined Johnsons and go to work on each others' orifices, they do it for only one reason. What do you suppose that reason is?

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Jul 14, 2019 05:13:18   #
PeterS
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christians" who claim to be gay but saved, do you have a different bible than the other Christians?? Sure, you can't help but be who you were made to be, but then is your taste for same sex "sex" an acceptable taste?? No matter what they say, it don't work for the bible based Christian nor does it work for the Bible based Gawd.

Can Mayor Pete actually say that he is a servant of the people under Gawd?? He has tried!

And while we're at it, do gay folk have any hope of anything beyond if Gawd is the Gawd?? Just say'in!! Sure, Jesus would say welcome them in with open arms but, would he like the their practice of the homosexual arts?

I think not!
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christ... (show quote)

Isn't that between mayor Pete and his god?

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Jul 14, 2019 05:28:31   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Wrong. Question is: what are you driving at? Is this an indictment of Christian beliefs, or is it a defense of sin, or is it both?

As I recall, you have made it known that you believe "Gawd" is a fiction, the Bible is bulls**t, and all Christians are fools. So, what exactly is your point in challenging the concept of sin?

Bottom line: when two (or more) dudes pull out their blue veined Johnsons and go to work on each others' orifices, they do it for only one reason. What do you suppose that reason is?
Wrong. Question is: what are you driving at? Is th... (show quote)

I would say this is an indictment of the moral relativity of the evangelical Christian. For example, when Trump was running for president he was unrepentant for any of his sins yet you people had no problem v****g for him and supporting him afterward. Yet with homosexuals, this is a line you say you can not cross. So, you are either being a hypocrite or a bigot or both. As for sin, since you made it morally relative you have also made it irrelevant...

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Jul 14, 2019 05:31:08   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Wrong. Question is: what are you driving at? Is this an indictment of Christian beliefs, or is it a defense of sin, or is it both?

As I recall, you have made it known that you believe "Gawd" is a fiction, the Bible is bulls**t, and all Christians are fools. So, what exactly is your point in challenging the concept of sin?

Bottom line: when two (or more) dudes pull out their blue veined Johnsons and go to work on each others' orifices, they do it for only one reason. What do you suppose that reason is?
Wrong. Question is: what are you driving at? Is th... (show quote)

You don't believe in atheism but have no problem challenging it so why do you always pop a vein on your Johnson when an atheist or agnostic poses a question for you so-called Christians?

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Jul 14, 2019 05:46:07   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
That is my take. God loves ALL his children, He doesn't always love what we do, especially when we reject, or twist His guidance and commandments. There is NO scientific or medical proof that homosexuals are in fact "born that way", so when you CHOOSE to reject His word, you also are rejecting His blessings. You may still have God's love, but you don't get the rewards you get with true obedience. And obeying God BENEFITS each and every one of us. It is when we work at odds with God that life becomes more difficult
That is my take. God loves ALL his children, He do... (show quote)

There is no scientific proof for god. If science is your test you have already destroyed your own argument. And the one thing that you are forgetting is that man wrote the bible supposedly inspired by the hand of God. Maybe that's true and maybe the inspiration was a flask of wine. If the latter is the case then it's human bigotry that made homosexuality a sin...

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Jul 14, 2019 07:00:47   #
Rose42
 
PeterS wrote:
I would say this is an indictment of the moral relativity of the evangelical Christian. For example, when Trump was running for president he was unrepentant for any of his sins yet you people had no problem v****g for him and supporting him afterward. Yet with homosexuals, this is a line you say you can not cross. So, you are either being a hypocrite or a bigot or both. As for sin, since you made it morally relative you have also made it irrelevant...


Conversely, you support Buttigeig and his d*****t lifestyle, his lying about Christianity and his unrepentance so you should have no issues with Trump.

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Jul 14, 2019 07:09:29   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Rose42 wrote:
Conversely, you support Buttigeig and his d*****t lifestyle, his lying about Christianity and his unrepentance so you should have no issues with Trump.

Pete believes in casting the first stone.

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Jul 14, 2019 08:23:33   #
dongreen76
 
Peewee wrote:
God led the people and took care of sinners until the people demanded a king so they could be like other nations. So God allowed it knowing what would happen. Saul was tall, strong and handsome but disobedient. God tried to help Saul out and tell him how to do things but Saul did it his way, like Sinatra. Then David and Solomon. It doesn't work correctly unless the king, priest, and judges obey God's way. But the government is supposed to punish evil with different degrees of punishment and possible death. Today's problems are our leaders, p**********l, religious, and judges lean upon their own understanding instead of His words. Only a few states now have capital punishment. Most of our leaders in all three areas are corrupt. And the people suffer and groan and some cry out to God, but most will not repent and have no intention of repenting. But if His people, who are called by His name (not everyone else) will repent and call on His name, He will heal their land. It's all up to those who belong to Him to make it happen. No one else. This is our last chance to get it right. We will fail again given time, how much I don't know. It will always remain an individual decision and those that figure it out and are obedient will be saved. The rest won't. They have been led astray. Christians believe one way, Jews another, and the same for Muslims. There are human problems with all three but not scripturally. Read the scriptures. If you only read the Torah it has the answer, if you read the old and new Testaments it has the answer, if you read the Koran it has the answer. It's your job to find out what is in common for all three. All three mention one name and that is the Messiah. One clue, the true Messiah is true Salvation.
God led the people and took care of sinners until ... (show quote)

The Messiah is not the proper noun,The Christ is not the proper noun,There can be several Christ's or messiah's they are more or less descriptive of the proper nouns of Jesus,or Muhammad,or Confusius,or Abraham,which all three were thought to be the Messiah.Depending on what your religion is.Messiah is not your salvation,he's the messenger who tells you how to procure salvation.The commonality in all three that you were trying to refer to is there is one God,or Allah,

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Jul 14, 2019 08:27:55   #
badbob85037
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christians" who claim to be gay but saved, do you have a different bible than the other Christians?? Sure, you can't help but be who you were made to be, but then is your taste for same sex "sex" an acceptable taste?? No matter what they say, it don't work for the bible based Christian nor does it work for the Bible based Gawd.

Can Mayor Pete actually say that he is a servant of the people under Gawd?? He has tried!

And while we're at it, do gay folk have any hope of anything beyond if Gawd is the Gawd?? Just say'in!! Sure, Jesus would say welcome them in with open arms but, would he like the their practice of the homosexual arts?

I think not!
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christ... (show quote)


Don't worry God used some monkeys to give them some bad mojo and put that fault line in California to hurry the process. And putting your winkie in another mans septic tank is not an art it's a perverted sickness that makes one puke just thinkin of it

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Jul 14, 2019 08:59:46   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Agree and those who changed the wording to suit themselves will pay dearly.




Ricktloml wrote:
I agree there is only one unforgivable sin, and all but that one sin can be forgiven. But no sin is forgiven without repentence

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Jul 14, 2019 09:12:26   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
[quote=nwtk2007]So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christians" who claim to be gay but saved, do you have a different bible than the other Christians?? Sure, you can't help but be who you were made to be, but then is your taste for same sex "sex" an acceptable taste?? No matter what they say, it don't work for the bible based Christian nor does it work for the Bible based Gawd.

Can Mayor Pete actually say that he is a servant of the people under Gawd?? He has tried!

And while we're at it, do gay folk have any hope of anything beyond if Gawd is the Gawd?? Just say'in!! Sure, Jesus would say welcome them in with open arms but, would he like the their practice of the homosexual arts?

Don't know what happened to the quotation but I start with my rave here from below, down under.

Christian Salvation has changed often in the past the Roman Catholics were the last to recognize s***ery as sinful so it's not the first time infallible was wrong.

To say that only satisfaction knows what the t***h is when ordinary folks join forces to overcome boredom is close to saying self-gratification has to survive as p***e, and stagnation will continue unabated due to imagery and identity being fostered from the past to give novelty a reason to abide.

Close but no connection.

And that's all homosexuality is an ideological misgotten good, both on the liberal left and the autocratic righ.

If you take a close look at property rights as political boundaries are now being overhauled or rehashed there is a close similarity, the libertarians in both camps are placed near the top in both camps.

That's because it's nothing to do with religion in the opinion of most people, the right puts faith in their ideology high up so homosexuality is low down.

And the left puts faith low down so homosexuality is high up.

Confessions of ideology by Society * Ideology comes first and last.

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Jul 14, 2019 09:27:31   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
dongreen76 wrote:
The Messiah is not the proper noun,The Christ is not the proper noun,There can be several Christ's or messiah's they are more or less descriptive of the proper nouns of Jesus,or Muhammad,or Confusius,or Abraham,which all three were thought to be the Messiah.Depending on what your religion is.Messiah is not your salvation,he's the messenger who tells you how to procure salvation.The commonality in all three that you were trying to refer to is there is one God,or Allah,


That's why I'm not an English major. One of my worst subjects in school. It's also why I was trying to be a little PC so people would do a little research. But I get your point and appreciate it. Thanks! Hope you agree that if people sincerely search they will find the right one.

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Jul 14, 2019 09:46:03   #
moldyoldy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christians" who claim to be gay but saved, do you have a different bible than the other Christians?? Sure, you can't help but be who you were made to be, but then is your taste for same sex "sex" an acceptable taste?? No matter what they say, it don't work for the bible based Christian nor does it work for the Bible based Gawd.

Can Mayor Pete actually say that he is a servant of the people under Gawd?? He has tried!

And while we're at it, do gay folk have any hope of anything beyond if Gawd is the Gawd?? Just say'in!! Sure, Jesus would say welcome them in with open arms but, would he like the their practice of the homosexual arts?

I think not!
So, I h**e to say so, but for all the "Christ... (show quote)


Are you sinning now by attacking gays?

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Jul 14, 2019 09:51:21   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
He/she is as much as you are. It's a choice one makes and then lives with.





moldyoldy wrote:
Are you sinning now by attacking gays?

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