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Jul 14, 2019 13:44:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Maybe the country wouldn’t have such a huge debt if we’d never let any i******s stay.
Just saying because you brought up costs. They are costing us a bundle.


It is without doubt that i*********n l*ws need to be streamlined..



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Jul 14, 2019 14:08:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
ICE detainers are good for 48 hours, Einstein. After that, all bets are off.



that is part of the problem.. ICE was not issuing the paper work, but wanted locals to work the streets and retain any who ICE may have an interest in. but ICE did not follow up and expected locals to act as holding cells until they got around to the paper work..



What are detainers?
An immigration detainer is a notice that ICE issues to inform another law enforcement agency—usually state or local—that ICE intends to assume custody of an individual in the law enforcement agency’s custody for the purposes of putting them in removal proceedings. ICE recently issued a new detainer form, partly in response to recent litigation (discussed below) on the nature of detainers. The detainer is issued when ICE has “determined that probable cause exists that the subject is a removable alien.” Once issued, ICE requests that the local jurisdiction notify them at least 48 hours before the individual is released from custody or maintain custody of the individual for a period not to exceed 48 hours after that person would otherwise be released to provide ICE time to assume custody.

More to the point..]Sorta long, read it anyway, it is quite interesting. includes remarks going back to the 1700s with our nations policy...



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/8/17091984/sanctuary-cities-city-state-illegal-immigration-sessions

The wonky t***h is that neither of these is exactly right.

The federal government has spent the past 20 years using local government (especially law enforcement) as a force multiplier to help it find, arrest, and deport immigrants more efficiently — and for almost as long, progressives have been trying to reassert local autonomy. At this point, the line between “obstructing” federal law enforcement and simply deciding not to help isn’t as clear as one might expect.

In the courtroom, the fight over sanctuary cities is narrow and technical. Outside the courtroom, it’s a culture war.


What is a sanctuary city?
“Sanctuary city” is not an official government term. It has no legal meaning.

Lots of people use the unofficial term “sanctuary city” to refer to local jurisdictions (not just cities but counties and sometimes states) that don’t fully cooperate with federal efforts to find and deport unauthorized immigrants. If that sounds vague, that’s because it is, and it gets at the tension between federal policy and local law enforcement generally used to carry out those laws.

The federal government relies heavily on local law enforcement to identify and detain immigrants. This relationship is a big reason deportations went up exponentially during the Bush and Obama administrations: from 189,000 a year when Bush arrived in office to 400,000 a year in the late 2000s and early 2010s.

Here’s one way to think about the impact of the local “force multiplier.” In 1996 (the year a law was passed creating new opportunities for local-federal immigration collaboration), 70,000 immigrants were removed from the US. That includes immigrants caught at the US border and those deported from communities within the country.

Each year, from 2011 to 2014 — the peak of local-federal immigration cooperation — a single local-federal program, Secure Communities (which checked immigrants booked into local jails against federal databases), resulted in the deportation of more than 70,000 immigrants. Secure Communities got more immigrants deported during those years than the entire federal government had in 1996.

But that cooperation hasn’t always been smooth. Local resistance — often due to pressure by immigrant activist groups — can cause problems for the federal government.

Local police departments aren’t required to help the federal government do wh**ever it wants, and since i*********n l*w is federal law, it makes sense that catching unauthorized immigrants might not be a local law enforcement priority. After all, local police don’t go out of their way to enforce federal tax law either.

And a lot of police chiefs think it’s a net negative for local cops to enforce i*********n l*w — it makes immigrant communities afraid of police and less likely to report crimes or cooperate with investigations in, say, murder cases.

So exactly how much assistance local governments should provide in immigration enforcement is an ongoing fight. At heart, it’s been a policy fight over what local governments should do. But under the Trump administration, in particular, it’s taken on the color of law: the idea that cities are refusing to do something they’re obligated to do.

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Jul 16, 2019 07:04:29   #
JIM BETHEA
 
permafrost wrote:
Funding in this case is about police costs..

local cops can not afford to absorb the cost that ICE does not want to spend..

Holding, misdemeanors until the feds get around to showing up was and is the issue.

It is not murders, rapists and other felons.. it is immigration issues that immigration wants handled by the local cops rather then themselves.. locals doing the job of feds..

That funding you speak of and linked.. that is funding for a great number of items/chores not for doing the work of feds.

Do you know a single city/municipality who has money to spare for non-local needs?
Funding in this case is about police costs.. br ... (show quote)


THIS SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT THAT MORONS WOULD THINK WAS GREAT....
Even if this were so then it would only be $6 billion per year over a 10 year period....
Good thinking for and Dem/Socialist take in $6 Billion while they are COSTING THE TAXPAYERS $132 BILLION PER YEAR IN HANDOUTS TO THEM....lol

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Jul 16, 2019 08:24:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
THIS SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT THAT MORONS WOULD THINK WAS GREAT....
Even if this were so then it would only be $6 billion per year over a 10 year period....
Good thinking for and Dem/Socialist take in $6 Billion while they are COSTING THE TAXPAYERS $132 BILLION PER YEAR IN HANDOUTS TO THEM....lol


You are really playing the role of mr dumb head, right?

Not even a trump supporter can be that stupid..

Where did you get your figurers? Who made them up for you?

You are mixing 2 subjects, if not more..



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