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Jul 11, 2019 23:54:51   #
Zemirah (a regular here)
 
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descended from the Middle East, not from Khazars or any other indigenous European peoples.

(2) There is no trace of any Turkic language in the language spoken by Eastern European Jews, Yiddish.

(3) Jewish peoplehood, and the longing for a return to Zion long predates modern political Zionism. For centuries (over two thousand years) , throughout the world, on every Passover, Jews have said “Next Year in Jerusalem.

Last year an article entitled “The Khazar Myth and the New Anti-Semitism” dealt with the myth, popular these days on Neo-Nazi web sites, claiming that Ashkenazi Jews are not descendant from Jews at all
but are “Khazars” and nothing more than interlopers in the Land of Israel, people who cannot claim the land as their ancestral homeland. The article can be read here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/displayContent_new.cfm?mode=a&contentid=21499&+contentName=The+Khazar+Myth+and+the+New+Anti-Semitism

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Cell.com) published a paper titled, Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry. The authors are mostly affiliated with Albert Einstein, NYU, and Columbia Medical Schools in NYC. They are Gil Atzmon, Li Hao, Itsik Pe’er, Christopher Velez, Alexander Pearlman, Pier Francesco Palamara, Bernice Morrow, Eitan Friedman, Carole Oddoux, Edward Burns, and Harry Ostrer. In an effort to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people (European, Mizrahi and Sephardim), the authors conducted a genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) (they left out the eighth, which is called Brooklynite) and compared them with surrounding non-Jewish groups and found that their are distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture.

http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/06/you-mean-im-not-a-khazar/

Two major groups were identified by using principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analyses. They are Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The results suggested suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry.

The study stated that the rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5 Million people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

This is an almost perfect confirmation of what we knew, said Francesc Calafell, a human population geneticist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology and Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain.
“Although the new study doesn't contain any real surprises, it gives a more complete picture of ancestral ties and leaves little room for doubt about the origin of different Jewish groups.” The lead researcher from NYU, Harry Ostrer, said that this is not a way to define a Jew, they will still leave that issue to clerics, communities, and the Knesset.

Two new genome studies of Jews worldwide prove that the Jewish people — long called the “People of the Book,” the “Chosen People” or, in unkind circles, “those people” — are, indeed, a people after all.

The first study, by researchers at New York’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, found that Jews across the globe share distinct genetic traits that are different from other groups and that trace back to the ancient Middle East.

Researchers say the study, published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, puts to rest age-old questions about whether Jews are a group of unrelated people who share a religious ideology or a distinct ethnicity with common ancestry.

“The debate is over,” said Dr. Edward R. Burns, one of the lead authors of the study. “The Jewish people are one people with a common genetic thread that evolved in the second or third century BC.”

The study, “Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,” compared the genetic analyses of 237 Jews, including Sephardic (Middle Eastern) and Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews — as well as an analysis of 418 non-Jews worldwide, and found that the Jews were more closely related to each other than to their fellow countrymen.

Past studies have reached similar conclusions, but they looked at smaller populations and considered only blood groups, mitochondrial DNA (a type of DNA passed down by mothers) or Y chromosomes (passed down by fathers).

For this inquiry, researchers conducted a genome-wide analysis of the major groups of the Jewish Diaspora — Ashkenazi Jews; Italian, Greek and Turkish Sephardic Jews; and Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian Jews.

The study — and a second genetic study published in the journal Nature — scientifically undermines arguments made by all those who have challenged Jews’ historical relationship to Israel, such as former White House correspondent Helen Thomas, who resigned after saying Jews in Israel should “go home” to Germany, Poland and the United States.

Turns out, the Jews in Israel are already home.

The Restoration of Israel:

"I will restore from captivity My people Israel; they will rebuild and inhabit the ruined cities. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
I will firmly plant them on their own land, and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God." (Amos 9:14-15)

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Jul 12, 2019 03:34:18   #
proud republican (a regular here)
 
Zemirah wrote:
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descended from the Middle East, not from Khazars or any other indigenous European peoples.

(2) There is no trace of any Turkic language in the language spoken by Eastern European Jews, Yiddish.

(3) Jewish peoplehood, and the longing for a return to Zion long predates modern political Zionism. For centuries (over two thousand years) , throughout the world, on every Passover, Jews have said “Next Year in Jerusalem.

Last year an article entitled “The Khazar Myth and the New Anti-Semitism” dealt with the myth, popular these days on Neo-Nazi web sites, claiming that Ashkenazi Jews are not descendant from Jews at all
but are “Khazars” and nothing more than interlopers in the Land of Israel, people who cannot claim the land as their ancestral homeland. The article can be read here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/displayContent_new.cfm?mode=a&contentid=21499&+contentName=The+Khazar+Myth+and+the+New+Anti-Semitism

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Cell.com) published a paper titled, Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry. The authors are mostly affiliated with Albert Einstein, NYU, and Columbia Medical Schools in NYC. They are Gil Atzmon, Li Hao, Itsik Pe’er, Christopher Velez, Alexander Pearlman, Pier Francesco Palamara, Bernice Morrow, Eitan Friedman, Carole Oddoux, Edward Burns, and Harry Ostrer. In an effort to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people (European, Mizrahi and Sephardim), the authors conducted a genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) (they left out the eighth, which is called Brooklynite) and compared them with surrounding non-Jewish groups and found that their are distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture.

http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/06/you-mean-im-not-a-khazar/

Two major groups were identified by using principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analyses. They are Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The results suggested suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry.

The study stated that the rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5 Million people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

This is an almost perfect confirmation of what we knew, said Francesc Calafell, a human population geneticist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology and Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain.
“Although the new study doesn't contain any real surprises, it gives a more complete picture of ancestral ties and leaves little room for doubt about the origin of different Jewish groups.” The lead researcher from NYU, Harry Ostrer, said that this is not a way to define a Jew, they will still leave that issue to clerics, communities, and the Knesset.

Two new genome studies of Jews worldwide prove that the Jewish people — long called the “People of the Book,” the “Chosen People” or, in unkind circles, “those people” — are, indeed, a people after all.

The first study, by researchers at New York’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, found that Jews across the globe share distinct genetic traits that are different from other groups and that trace back to the ancient Middle East.

Researchers say the study, published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, puts to rest age-old questions about whether Jews are a group of unrelated people who share a religious ideology or a distinct ethnicity with common ancestry.

“The debate is over,” said Dr. Edward R. Burns, one of the lead authors of the study. “The Jewish people are one people with a common genetic thread that evolved in the second or third century BC.”

The study, “Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,” compared the genetic analyses of 237 Jews, including Sephardic (Middle Eastern) and Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews — as well as an analysis of 418 non-Jews worldwide, and found that the Jews were more closely related to each other than to their fellow countrymen.

Past studies have reached similar conclusions, but they looked at smaller populations and considered only blood groups, mitochondrial DNA (a type of DNA passed down by mothers) or Y chromosomes (passed down by fathers).

For this inquiry, researchers conducted a genome-wide analysis of the major groups of the Jewish Diaspora — Ashkenazi Jews; Italian, Greek and Turkish Sephardic Jews; and Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian Jews.

The study — and a second genetic study published in the journal Nature — scientifically undermines arguments made by all those who have challenged Jews’ historical relationship to Israel, such as former White House correspondent Helen Thomas, who resigned after saying Jews in Israel should “go home” to Germany, Poland and the United States.

Turns out, the Jews in Israel are already home.

The Restoration of Israel:

"I will restore from captivity My people Israel; they will rebuild and inhabit the ruined cities. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
I will firmly plant them on their own land, and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God." (Amos 9:14-15)
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side... (show quote)


What is your point???

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Jul 12, 2019 04:02:23   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
proud republican wrote:
What is your point???


You may not have noticed but there are a small group of antisemitic people on OPP who insist that the Jews of Germany aka the Ashkenazi are not Jewish. This same group insists the holocaust did not happen and all the problems of the world is because of the Jew.

Personalty, I am glad to see a post that is not suggesting that the Jewish people be eliminated from humanity.

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Jul 12, 2019 04:17:57   #
Blade_Runner (a regular here)
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You may not have noticed but there are a small group of antisemitic people on OPP who insist that the Jews of Germany aka the Ashkenazi are not Jewish. This same group insists the holocaust did not happen and all the problems of the world is because of the Jew.

Personalty, I am glad to see a post that is not suggesting that the Jewish people be eliminated from humanity.
Shalom!

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
Psalm 122:6

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Jul 12, 2019 05:56:22   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Shalom!

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
Psalm 122:6


Shalom!!!! And may our Father bless the USA!

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Jul 12, 2019 07:01:51   #
Zemirah (a regular here)
 
My point, PR, is that the Jewish people are exactly who the Bible says they are.

They are the physical progeny of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whom God chose out of all the peoples of the earth.

Abraham's father was a moon-worshipper in Ur of the Chaldeans. But God began to speak and Abraham listened. He struck out from his home and his people to obey God’s call to “go to the land I will show you.” His wife was barren and old, but God promised Abraham a son. “He believed the Lord,” Scripture tells us, “and he credited it to him as righteousness” and he became known as “the friend of God.”

God made a permanent pledge to Abraham, meaning the Jewish people were under no obligation to do anything to inherit the land as a permanent possession, that God alone would see that the land would become their eternal possession.

The term "Land of Israel" is a direct translation of the Hebrew phrase ארץ ישראל (Eretz Yisrael), which occasionally occurs in the Bible, and is first mentioned in the Tanakh in 1 Samuel 13:19, following the Exodus, when the Israelite tribes were already in the Land of Canaan.

My point is that the Jewish people are who God says they are. They are not Khazarian, they are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and they are the permanent owners of Eretz Yisrael.

Further, my point is that anyone who bets against Israel will lose because they are betting against the God of Creation.

Acts 7:4-8 Stephen's Address to the Sanhedrin:

"So Abraham left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Haran. After his father died, God brought him out of that place, into this land where you are now living.

He gave him no inheritance here, not even a foot of ground. But God promised to give possession of the land to Abraham and his descendants, that eventually the whole land would belong to Abraham and his descendants, even though he did not yet have a child.
God told him that his descendants would be foreigners in a strange land [Egypt], and that they would be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years."
‘But I will punish the nation that enslaves them,’ God said, ‘and afterward they will come forth and worship Me in this place.’
Then God gave to Abraham the ceremony of circumcision as a sign of the covenant. So Abraham circumcised Isaac a week after he was born; Isaac circumcised his son Jacob, and Jacob circumcised his twelve sons, the famous patriarchs of our race."

Israel’s Ambassador To The UN Danny Danon has used Scripture to prove the State of Israel belongs to the Jewish People.

At the United Nations Security Council on Monday, May 6, 2019, he raised the Bible to defend the Jewish claims to the land. During his speech, he used the Bible, history, international law and the pursuit of international peace and security to make his case.

Deed to the Land

Danny also explained the history of how Jewish rights over Israel have been contested over the centuries but this doesn’t change God’s plan for Israel to be their permanent possession.

“In 70 CE, Roman Emperor Titus destroyed our Second Temple, expelled the Jewish people, and renamed the land nestled between Egypt and Lebanon ‘Syria-Palestina, as a southern province of Syria. THAT is where the name Palestine comes from, though Jews still lived in Jerusalem,” he argued.

He then raised up the Bible and claimed it as the title deed to the land of Israel. “This is the deed to our land,” Danny declared confidently.

He also emphasized that all the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) attest with the Jew’s ownership of Israel.

“The Qur’an itself accepts the divine deed of the Jewish people to the land of Israel,” he added.

Following are Qur'anic verses rarely mentioned by Muslims or Christians or Jews, if they are even aware of them:

"We [Allah] settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things".

[Qur'an: Sura 10, "Jonah", verse 93]


"Pharoah sought to scare them [the Jews] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him, together with all who were with him. Then We said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land. When the promise of the hereafter comes to be fulfilled, We shall assemble you all together [in the Land of Israel in the End of Days]".

[Qur'an: Sura 17, "The Night Journey", verse 103]

"it was Our [Allah's] will to favour those who were oppressed [the Jews] and to make them leaders of mankind, to bestow on them a noble heritage and to give them power in the land [of Israel]: and to inflict on Pharoah, Haman, and their army, the very scourge dreaded by their victims".

[Qur'an: Sura 28, "The Story", verses 5-6]

"We [Allah] gave the persecuted people [the Jews] dominion over the eastern and western lands which We had blessed [the east and west banks of the Jordan River]. Thus your Lord's gracious word was fulfilled for the Israelites, because they had endured with fortitude; and We destroyed the edifices and towers of Pharoah and his people".

[Qur'an: Sura 7, "The Heights", verse 137]

"To Moses We gave the Scriptures, a perfect code for the righteous, with precepts about all things, and a guide and a blessing, so that his people might believe in the ultimate meeting with their Lord".

[Qur'an: Sura 6, "Cattle", verse 155]

"tell of Our servants Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: men of might and vision whom We made pure with the thought of the hereafter. They shall dwell with Us among the righteous whom We have chosen".

[Qur'an: Sura 38, "Sad", verse 46]

"Glory be to Him [Allah] who made His servants [Muhammed and El Burak] go by night from the Sacred Temple [of Mecca] to the farther Temple [of Jerusalem], whose surroundings We have blessed, that We might show him some of Our signs. He [Allah] alone hears all and observes all. We [Allah] gave Moses the Scriptures and made them a guide for the Israelites, saying, 'Take no other guardian than Myself. You are the descendants of those whom We carried in the Ark with Noah. He was a truly thankful servant'".

[Qur'an: Sura 17, "The Night Journey", verses 1-3]


"We gave the Scriptures to the Israelites and bestowed on them wisdom and prophethood. We provided them with good things and exalted them above the nations".

[Qur'an: Sura 45, "Kneeling", verses 16-17]

"There is guidance, and there is light, in the Torah which We [Allah] have revealed. By it the prophets who surrendered themselves to Allah judged the Jews, and so did the rabbis and the divines; they gave judgement according to Allah's scriptures which had been committed to their keeping and to which they were witnesses".

[Qur'an: Sura 5, "The Table", verses 44-45]



proud republican wrote:
What is your point???
Israel’s Ambassador To The UN Danny Danon
Israel’s Ambassador To The UN Danny Danon...

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Jul 12, 2019 09:22:12   #
bahmer (a regular here)
 
Zemirah wrote:
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descended from the Middle East, not from Khazars or any other indigenous European peoples.

(2) There is no trace of any Turkic language in the language spoken by Eastern European Jews, Yiddish.

(3) Jewish peoplehood, and the longing for a return to Zion long predates modern political Zionism. For centuries (over two thousand years) , throughout the world, on every Passover, Jews have said “Next Year in Jerusalem.

Last year an article entitled “The Khazar Myth and the New Anti-Semitism” dealt with the myth, popular these days on Neo-Nazi web sites, claiming that Ashkenazi Jews are not descendant from Jews at all
but are “Khazars” and nothing more than interlopers in the Land of Israel, people who cannot claim the land as their ancestral homeland. The article can be read here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/displayContent_new.cfm?mode=a&contentid=21499&+contentName=The+Khazar+Myth+and+the+New+Anti-Semitism

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Cell.com) published a paper titled, Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry. The authors are mostly affiliated with Albert Einstein, NYU, and Columbia Medical Schools in NYC. They are Gil Atzmon, Li Hao, Itsik Pe’er, Christopher Velez, Alexander Pearlman, Pier Francesco Palamara, Bernice Morrow, Eitan Friedman, Carole Oddoux, Edward Burns, and Harry Ostrer. In an effort to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people (European, Mizrahi and Sephardim), the authors conducted a genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) (they left out the eighth, which is called Brooklynite) and compared them with surrounding non-Jewish groups and found that their are distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture.

http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/06/you-mean-im-not-a-khazar/

Two major groups were identified by using principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analyses. They are Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The results suggested suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry.

The study stated that the rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5 Million people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

This is an almost perfect confirmation of what we knew, said Francesc Calafell, a human population geneticist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology and Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain.
“Although the new study doesn't contain any real surprises, it gives a more complete picture of ancestral ties and leaves little room for doubt about the origin of different Jewish groups.” The lead researcher from NYU, Harry Ostrer, said that this is not a way to define a Jew, they will still leave that issue to clerics, communities, and the Knesset.

Two new genome studies of Jews worldwide prove that the Jewish people — long called the “People of the Book,” the “Chosen People” or, in unkind circles, “those people” — are, indeed, a people after all.

The first study, by researchers at New York’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, found that Jews across the globe share distinct genetic traits that are different from other groups and that trace back to the ancient Middle East.

Researchers say the study, published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, puts to rest age-old questions about whether Jews are a group of unrelated people who share a religious ideology or a distinct ethnicity with common ancestry.

“The debate is over,” said Dr. Edward R. Burns, one of the lead authors of the study. “The Jewish people are one people with a common genetic thread that evolved in the second or third century BC.”

The study, “Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,” compared the genetic analyses of 237 Jews, including Sephardic (Middle Eastern) and Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews — as well as an analysis of 418 non-Jews worldwide, and found that the Jews were more closely related to each other than to their fellow countrymen.

Past studies have reached similar conclusions, but they looked at smaller populations and considered only blood groups, mitochondrial DNA (a type of DNA passed down by mothers) or Y chromosomes (passed down by fathers).

For this inquiry, researchers conducted a genome-wide analysis of the major groups of the Jewish Diaspora — Ashkenazi Jews; Italian, Greek and Turkish Sephardic Jews; and Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian Jews.

The study — and a second genetic study published in the journal Nature — scientifically undermines arguments made by all those who have challenged Jews’ historical relationship to Israel, such as former White House correspondent Helen Thomas, who resigned after saying Jews in Israel should “go home” to Germany, Poland and the United States.

Turns out, the Jews in Israel are already home.

The Restoration of Israel:

"I will restore from captivity My people Israel; they will rebuild and inhabit the ruined cities. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
I will firmly plant them on their own land, and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God." (Amos 9:14-15)
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side... (show quote)


Amen and Amen very good post Zemirah thanks for that it is the end ti,es and the Jews have come home. It looks as though we are fast approaching the end times doesn't it.

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Jul 12, 2019 14:09:39   #
Peewee (a regular here)
 
Zemirah wrote:
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side Ashkenazi Jews are primarily descended from the Middle East, not from Khazars or any other indigenous European peoples.

(2) There is no trace of any Turkic language in the language spoken by Eastern European Jews, Yiddish.

(3) Jewish peoplehood, and the longing for a return to Zion long predates modern political Zionism. For centuries (over two thousand years) , throughout the world, on every Passover, Jews have said “Next Year in Jerusalem.

Last year an article entitled “The Khazar Myth and the New Anti-Semitism” dealt with the myth, popular these days on Neo-Nazi web sites, claiming that Ashkenazi Jews are not descendant from Jews at all
but are “Khazars” and nothing more than interlopers in the Land of Israel, people who cannot claim the land as their ancestral homeland. The article can be read here:

http://www.jewishpress.com/displayContent_new.cfm?mode=a&contentid=21499&+contentName=The+Khazar+Myth+and+the+New+Anti-Semitism

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Cell.com) published a paper titled, Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry. The authors are mostly affiliated with Albert Einstein, NYU, and Columbia Medical Schools in NYC. They are Gil Atzmon, Li Hao, Itsik Pe’er, Christopher Velez, Alexander Pearlman, Pier Francesco Palamara, Bernice Morrow, Eitan Friedman, Carole Oddoux, Edward Burns, and Harry Ostrer. In an effort to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people (European, Mizrahi and Sephardim), the authors conducted a genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) (they left out the eighth, which is called Brooklynite) and compared them with surrounding non-Jewish groups and found that their are distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture.

http://www.jewlicious.com/2010/06/you-mean-im-not-a-khazar/

Two major groups were identified by using principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analyses. They are Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The results suggested suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry.

The study stated that the rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5 Million people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

This is an almost perfect confirmation of what we knew, said Francesc Calafell, a human population geneticist at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology and Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain.
“Although the new study doesn't contain any real surprises, it gives a more complete picture of ancestral ties and leaves little room for doubt about the origin of different Jewish groups.” The lead researcher from NYU, Harry Ostrer, said that this is not a way to define a Jew, they will still leave that issue to clerics, communities, and the Knesset.

Two new genome studies of Jews worldwide prove that the Jewish people — long called the “People of the Book,” the “Chosen People” or, in unkind circles, “those people” — are, indeed, a people after all.

The first study, by researchers at New York’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, found that Jews across the globe share distinct genetic traits that are different from other groups and that trace back to the ancient Middle East.

Researchers say the study, published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, puts to rest age-old questions about whether Jews are a group of unrelated people who share a religious ideology or a distinct ethnicity with common ancestry.

“The debate is over,” said Dr. Edward R. Burns, one of the lead authors of the study. “The Jewish people are one people with a common genetic thread that evolved in the second or third century BC.”

The study, “Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era,” compared the genetic analyses of 237 Jews, including Sephardic (Middle Eastern) and Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews — as well as an analysis of 418 non-Jews worldwide, and found that the Jews were more closely related to each other than to their fellow countrymen.

Past studies have reached similar conclusions, but they looked at smaller populations and considered only blood groups, mitochondrial DNA (a type of DNA passed down by mothers) or Y chromosomes (passed down by fathers).

For this inquiry, researchers conducted a genome-wide analysis of the major groups of the Jewish Diaspora — Ashkenazi Jews; Italian, Greek and Turkish Sephardic Jews; and Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian Jews.

The study — and a second genetic study published in the journal Nature — scientifically undermines arguments made by all those who have challenged Jews’ historical relationship to Israel, such as former White House correspondent Helen Thomas, who resigned after saying Jews in Israel should “go home” to Germany, Poland and the United States.

Turns out, the Jews in Israel are already home.

The Restoration of Israel:

"I will restore from captivity My people Israel; they will rebuild and inhabit the ruined cities. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
I will firmly plant them on their own land, and they will never again be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the LORD your God." (Amos 9:14-15)
(1) DNA evidence shows that on their paternal side... (show quote)


A great post and some outstanding research. If I was the cause of this post then I'm glad. I never doubted the Jews in Israel were home. The desert is blooming after 2K years. I believe they only have a postage stamp area of what they will eventually have. I was just questioning if the Rothschild family are real Jews. That if portions of the Kazar myth were true, the Rothschilds would fit the myth in my opinion. They also did DNA research on where the Philistines came from before they settled in the Levant. That research says they came from somewhere between Sicily and the Aegean Sea. They stayed until they were chased out by Joshua and David. Where they went is a mystery but by that time their DNA would contain plenty of DNA from the area of the Levant. Hope that clears up where I was coming from in my thinking. Also, as I have said several times every nation has a deep state and traitors within its ranks. I'm just trying to make sense of how did that happen. Yes, Satan but who were his human agents in our lifetime. Only someone with tons of wealth could have accomplished all this mischief in such a short space of time. I think it's commonly accepted as true that the Rothschild family is facilitating most of the NWO agenda along with Soros. Two real or fake Jews? It's easy to assume new identities before, during, and after wars.

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Jul 12, 2019 19:36:37   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
Peewee wrote:
A great post and some outstanding research. If I was the cause of this post then I'm glad. I never doubted the Jews in Israel were home. The desert is blooming after 2K years. I believe they only have a postage stamp area of what they will eventually have. I was just questioning if the Rothschild family are real Jews. That if portions of the Kazar myth were true, the Rothschilds would fit the myth in my opinion. They also did DNA research on where the Philistines came from before they settled in the Levant. That research says they came from somewhere between Sicily and the Aegean Sea. They stayed until they were chased out by Joshua and David. Where they went is a mystery but by that time their DNA would contain plenty of DNA from the area of the Levant. Hope that clears up where I was coming from in my thinking. Also, as I have said several times every nation has a deep state and traitors within its ranks. I'm just trying to make sense of how did that happen. Yes, Satan but who were his human agents in our lifetime. Only someone with tons of wealth could have accomplished all this mischief in such a short space of time. I think it's commonly accepted as true that the Rothschild family is facilitating most of the NWO agenda along with Soros. Two real or fake Jews? It's easy to assume new identities before, during, and after wars.
A great post and some outstanding research. If I w... (show quote)


Why do so many anti-semitics hate the Rothschilds? I have often thought about this and I guess it is because it is not politically correct to hate Oprah, no one questions if she is black or Jeff Bezos is a Mexican. No one seems to resent or hate Henry Ford or question that he was a white Episcopalian.... but the Rothschilds.... they are considered the poster children for greed and ergo an object of hate. No one cares that this family has done more for the poor and needy, and not just Jewish who are in need. From opening dental clinics, a free public library, a swimming bath, old people's homes, orphanages, funds to pay school fees, soup kitchens and hospitals in Frankfurth to Venina while Hitler was vilifying the entire family. Israel owes many of its early economic successes to the work of Edmond de Rothschild, who founded numerous colonies for Jewish settlers. A silk factory, vineyard and flour mill, as well as the introduction of crops such as grapefruit and avocado, enabled the settlers to establish their economic independence. Most of their philanthropic efforts would close without their support: Evelina London Children's Hospital, and the Industrial Dwellings Society. Family foundations include the Edmond de Rothschild Foundations, the ERANDA Foundation, The Rothschild Foundation (Hanadiv) Europe, and the Fondation de Rothschild.

The Rothschild Family is the founder of our modern-day banking system. This banking system uses fractional lending, which basically lends out most of the money that a bank customer deposits. In the US, it’s not uncommon to lend out 98% of all deposits. What this means.... well during the heyday of coal mining, the miner was owned by the company... their houses, autos (if they could afford the $dollar down and dollar a week for the rest of their lives and that of their children)...their lives belonged to the company. It was rare for someone who came from a poor family to get ahead. Then the banks became important, for the first time a child could have a better future than their parents... they could own a home and actually pay it off in their lifetimes. This was not possible before modern day banking.

And if it is the National Reserve that you have an issue with, what you have read is mostly from the imagination of one author, Eustace Mullins who throws out "facts" that do not exist. No Federal Reserve stock has ever been sold to foreigners; it has only been sold to banks which are members of the Federal Reserve System (Woodward, 1996). Mullins argued that since the money-center banks of New York owned the largest portion of stock in the New York Fed, they could hand-pick its board of directors and president. This would give them, and hence the London Connection (the Rothschilds), control over Fed operations and U.S. monetary policy. This argument is faulty because each commercial bank receives one vote regardless of its size, unlike most corporate voting structures in which the number of votes is tied to the number of shares a person holds (Ibid). The New York Federal Reserve district contains over 1,000 member banks, so it is highly unlikely that even the largest and most powerful banks would be able to coerce so many smaller ones to vote in a particular manner. To control the vote of a majority of member banks would mean acquiring a controlling interest in about 500 member banks of the New York district. Such an expenditure would require an outlay in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Surely there is a cheaper path to global domination.

And wealth.... here is a link to the top 25 richest people of the world.... guess what, Rothschilds name does not appear on the list. https://wealthygorilla.com/top-20-richest-people-world/

So, tonight when you are safe within the walls of the home you own.... say a prayer of thanks to the modern day banking system. As you welcome your child home from college, again say a special prayer for those philanthropic Jews who encourage donations to colleges and universities around the world. When you go to the hospital and they provide you with a CATSCAN, say a prayer of thanks to the lowly Jew who invented it (along with the pacemaker and a thousand other medical devices; made possible by loans made from the modern day banking system). And I, as a Jewess, will say a special prayer for the Rothschilds who donated so much to support medical, agriculture, and arts not only in Israel but around the world.

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Jul 12, 2019 21:01:13   #
Peewee (a regular here)
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Why do so many anti-semitics hate the Rothschilds? I have often thought about this and I guess it is because it is not politically correct to hate Oprah, no one questions if she is black or Jeff Bezos is a Mexican. No one seems to resent or hate Henry Ford or question that he was a white Episcopalian.... but the Rothschilds.... they are considered the poster children for greed and ergo an object of hate. No one cares that this family has done more for the poor and needy, and not just Jewish who are in need. From opening dental clinics, a free public library, a swimming bath, old people's homes, orphanages, funds to pay school fees, soup kitchens and hospitals in Frankfurth to Venina while Hitler was vilifying the entire family. Israel owes many of its early economic successes to the work of Edmond de Rothschild, who founded numerous colonies for Jewish settlers. A silk factory, vineyard and flour mill, as well as the introduction of crops such as grapefruit and avocado, enabled the settlers to establish their economic independence. Most of their philanthropic efforts would close without their support: Evelina London Children's Hospital, and the Industrial Dwellings Society. Family foundations include the Edmond de Rothschild Foundations, the ERANDA Foundation, The Rothschild Foundation (Hanadiv) Europe, and the Fondation de Rothschild.

The Rothschild Family is the founder of our modern-day banking system. This banking system uses fractional lending, which basically lends out most of the money that a bank customer deposits. In the US, it’s not uncommon to lend out 98% of all deposits. What this means.... well during the heyday of coal mining, the miner was owned by the company... their houses, autos (if they could afford the $dollar down and dollar a week for the rest of their lives and that of their children)...their lives belonged to the company. It was rare for someone who came from a poor family to get ahead. Then the banks became important, for the first time a child could have a better future than their parents... they could own a home and actually pay it off in their lifetimes. This was not possible before modern day banking.

And if it is the National Reserve that you have an issue with, what you have read is mostly from the imagination of one author, Eustace Mullins who throws out "facts" that do not exist. No Federal Reserve stock has ever been sold to foreigners; it has only been sold to banks which are members of the Federal Reserve System (Woodward, 1996). Mullins argued that since the money-center banks of New York owned the largest portion of stock in the New York Fed, they could hand-pick its board of directors and president. This would give them, and hence the London Connection (the Rothschilds), control over Fed operations and U.S. monetary policy. This argument is faulty because each commercial bank receives one vote regardless of its size, unlike most corporate voting structures in which the number of votes is tied to the number of shares a person holds (Ibid). The New York Federal Reserve district contains over 1,000 member banks, so it is highly unlikely that even the largest and most powerful banks would be able to coerce so many smaller ones to vote in a particular manner. To control the vote of a majority of member banks would mean acquiring a controlling interest in about 500 member banks of the New York district. Such an expenditure would require an outlay in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Surely there is a cheaper path to global domination.

And wealth.... here is a link to the top 25 richest people of the world.... guess what, Rothschilds name does not appear on the list. https://wealthygorilla.com/top-20-richest-people-world/

So, tonight when you are safe within the walls of the home you own.... say a prayer of thanks to the modern day banking system. As you welcome your child home from college, again say a special prayer for those philanthropic Jews who encourage donations to colleges and universities around the world. When you go to the hospital and they provide you with a CATSCAN, say a prayer of thanks to the lowly Jew who invented it (along with the pacemaker and a thousand other medical devices; made possible by loans made from the modern day banking system). And I, as a Jewess, will say a special prayer for the Rothschilds who donated so much to support medical, agriculture, and arts not only in Israel but around the world.
Why do so many anti-semitics hate the Rothschilds?... (show quote)


Didn't mean to upset you PL. But that family does good deeds with one hand while robbing with the other. I've been following them for about thirty years off and on. They're not listed in Forbes because they don't want to be. It's just that simple. They did change their family name a few generations back and it's in the public record.

I can locate some pretty freaky pics of them, if, you want to see them in occult attire and surroundings. The rape site in AZ was bulldozed by orders of the local mayor before an investigation could be done. Guess what his last name is, Rothschild. The fires in CA were blamed on the power company. Guess who owns the power company, Rothschild. Heard of Nxivm sex cult, it has ties to Hollywood with Allison Mack, Clinton associate Richard Mays, Sen Kirsten Gillibrand's father, and the Bronfman family who own Seagrams. Edgar M. Bronfman and the Rothschilds were business partners for decades.

I can find you a pic with Chairman Mao and Rothschild. Lots of reasons why I think the Rothschilds are neck deep into the occult and sex trafficking. They are also neck deep in all NWO activities. Let me know and I'll PM you the photos. Israel's Supreme Court built and donated by the Rothschilds and it also has occult features, it even has a pyramid and all-seeing eye in its design.

You do know the Federal Reserve is just a name. It isn't Federal, it's private bankers and the IRS is its collection agency. Banks are the Rothschilds original business when they hit the big times. Basically, they are the world's Central Bank.

Prove they are Jews. I think they assumed a Jewish identity because they knew it would be a perfect disguise for what they had in store for the world. They appear as angels of light to cover their evil deeds.
When I attack or question the Rothschilds, in no shape or manner am I accusing the Jews of anything. Because I don't think they are real Jews. I love Israel and the Jews, deeply. Our laws and the world has been blessed because of the Jews from the arts, literature, music, tech, water saving devices, the cherry tomato, and worldwide rescue missions, and I could go on and on for pages. My Lord and Savior is a Jew named Yeshua/Salvation. How could I hate the Jews?

Even Q says they are bad to the bone, especially Lady Rothschild. That sealed the deal with me.

You have an amazing mind, do a little research and if I can help don't hesitate to ask.

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Jul 12, 2019 22:33:22   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
Peewee wrote:
Didn't mean to upset you PL. But that family does good deeds with one hand while robbing with the other. I've been following them for about thirty years off and on. They're not listed in Forbes because they don't want to be. It's just that simple. They did change their family name a few generations back and it's in the public record.

I can locate some pretty freaky pics of them, if, you want to see them in occult attire and surroundings. The rape site in AZ was bulldozed by orders of the local mayor before an investigation could be done. Guess what his last name is, Rothschild. The fires in CA were blamed on the power company. Guess who owns the power company, Rothschild. Heard of Nxivm sex cult, it has ties to Hollywood with Allison Mack, Clinton associate Richard Mays, Sen Kirsten Gillibrand's father, and the Bronfman family who own Seagrams. Edgar M. Bronfman and the Rothschilds were business partners for decades.

I can find you a pic with Chairman Mao and Rothschild. Lots of reasons why I think the Rothschilds are neck deep into the occult and sex trafficking. They are also neck deep in all NWO activities. Let me know and I'll PM you the photos. Israel's Supreme Court built and donated by the Rothschilds and it also has occult features, it even has a pyramid and all-seeing eye in its design.

You do know the Federal Reserve is just a name. It isn't Federal, it's private bankers and the IRS is its collection agency. Banks are the Rothschilds original business when they hit the big times. Basically, they are the world's Central Bank.

Prove they are Jews. I think they assumed a Jewish identity because they knew it would be a perfect disguise for what they had in store for the world. They appear as angels of light to cover their evil deeds.
When I attack or question the Rothschilds, in no shape or manner am I accusing the Jews of anything. Because I don't think they are real Jews. I love Israel and the Jews, deeply. Our laws and the world has been blessed because of the Jews from the arts, literature, music, tech, water saving devices, the cherry tomato, and worldwide rescue missions, and I could go on and on for pages. My Lord and Savior is a Jew named Yeshua/Salvation. How could I hate the Jews?

Even Q says they are bad to the bone, especially Lady Rothschild. That sealed the deal with me.

You have an amazing mind, do a little research and if I can help don't hesitate to ask.
Didn't mean to upset you PL. But that family does ... (show quote)


I am not upset, I am used to the discrimination. Besides, how can I be upset because you have read some articles that you can either agree with or identify with? What I know of Conspiracy theories is they resists all forms of dismantlement. Worse, those who dare question the seriousness of such theories are accused of being agents in the service of plotters or simple minded or stupid or in league with the devil. Conspiracists take on the heroic duty of infiltrating the “enemy” in order to interpret esoteric clues, unmask plotters, and denounce schemes.

As for pictures.... billions are taken for various reasons. I even have photographs with Clintons (both), Bush Jr and Sr. Does this make me a supporter? I personally question photographs that are the nature you describe.... even a novice in the use of computers have produced the most alarming "genuine fakes." BTW, did you know that Mao graduated from Yale? Did you know the photo you mention was taken at Yale? To infer friendship from such a photo is to infer that Nikita Khrushchev and John F. Kennedy were best friends... after all they had a photo taken together.

I have made sizable donations to building libraries and hospital wings, I have no say over the design or the building plan. So is it with many of my associates and while the Rothschild donated the money for the building of Israel's Supreme Court , they did not plan it. The architects who planned the structure – Ada Carmi-Melamed and her brother, Ram Carmi – were chosen in a competition that was held in 1986. Both were members of the Freemasons, which is not a satanic cult.

Are the Rothschild real Jews? How do you mean this? Can they trace their DNA back to Abraham? Or have they accepted the Jewish belief in one G*d the creator and judge to all humankind? Indeed, Mayer Amschel Rothschild was religiously a Jew who was born and raised in the Frankfurt Jewish ghetto. I do not know if his DNA was ever mapped. This is what I know, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the son of Amschel Moses Rothschild and Schoenche Rothschild, was born in Frankfurt, Germany on February 23, 1744, the fourth of eight children. His father was a moneychanger and dealer in silk cloth. The family surname was derived from the house where Isaac Elchanan (d. 1585) lived in Frankfurt. At the time, it was a common practice to give names to houses (such as White Tulip, Ship, Green Jar, etc.). Elchanan's house was called zum Roten Schild (at the Red Shield), from which the last name Rothschild came. In 1664, Isaac's grandson Naftali left zum Roten Schild and moved to a house called Hinterpfann, meaning house at the back of the sauce pan, but kept the Rothschild surname. We also know from journals that Rothschild attended a Jewish school called a heder, beginning at the age of three or four. There he studied the Jewish sacred books, the Torah and the Talmud. By the age of seven or eight, Rothschild and his classmates would have read the five books of Moses in Hebrew and Judendeutsch, a mixture of Hebrew and the Frankfurt dialect. (Frankfurt Jews did not speak Yiddish). Instruction at the heder did not include any secular subjects or German. At home, Rothschild helped with the family business, running errands to other moneylenders and sorting out various coins his father had exchanged for local money.

In 1775, at the age of eleven, Rothschild left the heder and went to study in a Jewish seminary, or yeshiva, near Nuremberg. A few months later, a smallpox epidemic struck the Judengasse. Rothschild's father died on October 6, 1755; his mother died on June 29, 1756. The orphan returned home to live with relatives.

The Jews of Frankfurt were required to live apart from the Christians in a single narrow lane called the Judengasse, or Jews' Alley. The street was dark, filthy, smelly and overcrowded. The 3,000 Jewish inhabitants were locked into this ghetto on Sundays, Christian holidays, and at night. Frankfurt's Jews could not enter a public garden, visit a coffee shop, or walk more than two abreast in the street. Although other eighteenth century German cities imposed restrictions on Jews, none were as harsh as those of Frankfurt.

Is that Jewish enough for you?

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Jul 12, 2019 23:48:45   #
Peewee (a regular here)
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I am not upset, I am used to the discrimination. Besides, how can I be upset because you have read some articles that you can either agree with or identify with? What I know of Conspiracy theories is they resists all forms of dismantlement. Worse, those who dare question the seriousness of such theories are accused of being agents in the service of plotters or simple minded or stupid or in league with the devil. Conspiracists take on the heroic duty of infiltrating the “enemy” in order to interpret esoteric clues, unmask plotters, and denounce schemes.

As for pictures.... billions are taken for various reasons. I even have photographs with Clintons (both), Bush Jr and Sr. Does this make me a supporter? I personally question photographs that are the nature you describe.... even a novice in the use of computers have produced the most alarming "genuine fakes." BTW, did you know that Mao graduated from Yale? Did you know the photo you mention was taken at Yale? To infer friendship from such a photo is to infer that Nikita Khrushchev and John F. Kennedy were best friends... after all they had a photo taken together.

I have made sizable donations to building libraries and hospital wings, I have no say over the design or the building plan. So is it with many of my associates and while the Rothschild donated the money for the building of Israel's Supreme Court , they did not plan it. The architects who planned the structure – Ada Carmi-Melamed and her brother, Ram Carmi – were chosen in a competition that was held in 1986. Both were members of the Freemasons, which is not a satanic cult.

Are the Rothschild real Jews? How do you mean this? Can they trace their DNA back to Abraham? Or have they accepted the Jewish belief in one G*d the creator and judge to all humankind? Indeed, Mayer Amschel Rothschild was religiously a Jew who was born and raised in the Frankfurt Jewish ghetto. I do not know if his DNA was ever mapped. This is what I know, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the son of Amschel Moses Rothschild and Schoenche Rothschild, was born in Frankfurt, Germany on February 23, 1744, the fourth of eight children. His father was a moneychanger and dealer in silk cloth. The family surname was derived from the house where Isaac Elchanan (d. 1585) lived in Frankfurt. At the time, it was a common practice to give names to houses (such as White Tulip, Ship, Green Jar, etc.). Elchanan's house was called zum Roten Schild (at the Red Shield), from which the last name Rothschild came. In 1664, Isaac's grandson Naftali left zum Roten Schild and moved to a house called Hinterpfann, meaning house at the back of the sauce pan, but kept the Rothschild surname. We also know from journals that Rothschild attended a Jewish school called a heder, beginning at the age of three or four. There he studied the Jewish sacred books, the Torah and the Talmud. By the age of seven or eight, Rothschild and his classmates would have read the five books of Moses in Hebrew and Judendeutsch, a mixture of Hebrew and the Frankfurt dialect. (Frankfurt Jews did not speak Yiddish). Instruction at the heder did not include any secular subjects or German. At home, Rothschild helped with the family business, running errands to other moneylenders and sorting out various coins his father had exchanged for local money.

In 1775, at the age of eleven, Rothschild left the heder and went to study in a Jewish seminary, or yeshiva, near Nuremberg. A few months later, a smallpox epidemic struck the Judengasse. Rothschild's father died on October 6, 1755; his mother died on June 29, 1756. The orphan returned home to live with relatives.

The Jews of Frankfurt were required to live apart from the Christians in a single narrow lane called the Judengasse, or Jews' Alley. The street was dark, filthy, smelly and overcrowded. The 3,000 Jewish inhabitants were locked into this ghetto on Sundays, Christian holidays, and at night. Frankfurt's Jews could not enter a public garden, visit a coffee shop, or walk more than two abreast in the street. Although other eighteenth century German cities imposed restrictions on Jews, none were as harsh as those of Frankfurt.

Is that Jewish enough for you?
I am not upset, I am used to the discrimination. ... (show quote)


I'm aware of everything you posted that can be found in an English translation. Were German's during WWII masters of deception and impersonating others and assuming their identities and then murdering them?

I think they did it more than a few times. Were the Nazi's into the occult? They stole the gold teeth out of your ancestors and murdered them by the millions, do you think they wouldn't hesitate to steal an identity and keep their stolen treasures and escape judgement at Nuremberg? Of course, they would and it would have been easy to do. Germany is just now making reparations to Holocaust survivors when the cost is down because they are almost all dead.

Drop your defense shield a wee bit and just ask, is it possible. I'm not your enemy. Hitler had a lot of spies and they impersonated people from many countries. He sent them all over the world to find occult relics.

I didn't discriminate against you or any other Jewish person(s) except the Rothschild family. But if I wanted to I could have. Harvey Weinstein, Chuck Summer, Gloria Allred, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz to name a few I don't respect at all. Most Jews are wonderful people. Most of my dearest and funniest friends in the Air Force were Jewish. My all-time favorite commander was Col Harvey Manekofsky (sp), I still remember his laugh fondly. Playing the victim doesn't work with me, I treat everyone the same as much as they allow me. I treat all people of all colors and faiths with respect until they disrespect me or judge me without getting to know me. Especially if they accuse me of things I never did. I even applied for a JTF Peace Keeping job in the Siani so I could visit and see Israel on my off time. I didn't make the cut for some unknown reason. I've supported Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein work for years and my baby sister was cared for by a lady I only knew as momma Stein. I guess she could have been German.

Shalom, and I will always pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and Israel whether you like or approve of me or not.

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Jul 12, 2019 23:51:09   #
Zemirah (a regular here)
 
Peewee, I've posted similar topics twice before refuting the "Kazarian" conspiracy, which, historically, appears to be assembled from whole cloth.

If you enjoy the tedious activity of paging through my past topics and posts since 2013, you can find them.

Have you ever seen one iota of actual, literal factual documentation, i.e., proof of such a people as the Kazarians in modern times? -say, in the last thousand years?

The topic has sold a lot of "novels." Many unscrupulous, "mini"-talented authors have made money from selling such literature.

There is, however, no archaeological evidence they exist.

to be continued -




Peewee wrote:
A great post and some outstanding research. If I was the cause of this post then I'm glad. I never doubted the Jews in Israel were home. The desert is blooming after 2K years. I believe they only have a postage stamp area of what they will eventually have. I was just questioning if the Rothschild family are real Jews. That if portions of the Kazar myth were true, the Rothschilds would fit the myth in my opinion. They also did DNA research on where the Philistines came from before they settled in the Levant. That research says they came from somewhere between Sicily and the Aegean Sea. They stayed until they were chased out by Joshua and David. Where they went is a mystery but by that time their DNA would contain plenty of DNA from the area of the Levant. Hope that clears up where I was coming from in my thinking. Also, as I have said several times every nation has a deep state and traitors within its ranks. I'm just trying to make sense of how did that happen. Yes, Satan but who were his human agents in our lifetime. Only someone with tons of wealth could have accomplished all this mischief in such a short space of time. I think it's commonly accepted as true that the Rothschild family is facilitating most of the NWO agenda along with Soros. Two real or fake Jews? It's easy to assume new identities before, during, and after wars.
A great post and some outstanding research. If I w... (show quote)

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Jul 13, 2019 00:18:05   #
Peewee (a regular here)
 
Zemirah wrote:
Peewee, I've posted similar topics twice before refuting the "Kazarian" conspiracy, which, historically, appears to be assembled from whole cloth.

If you enjoy the tedious activity of paging through my past topics and posts since 2013, you can find them.

Have you ever seen one iota of actual, literal factual documentation, i.e., proof of such a people as the Kazarians in modern times? -say, in the last thousand years?

The topic has sold a lot of "novels." Many unscrupulous, "mini"-talented authors have made money from selling such literature.

There is, however, no archaeological evidence they exist.

to be continued -
Peewee, I've posted similar topics twice before r... (show quote)


I've only been on OPP a few years so the answer is no. I told you before I don't believe all the KM stuff. But some of the stuff I've read fit pieces of puzzles in other things I have read. I've also said I'm not a scholar and I study a wide variety of things that interest me. If I have offended you and PL you have my apologies and that was never my intent. But it's a subject that interests me. If it does offend you to bad. I don't let what others think of me define me or change me. I know who I am warts and all. I don't believe all conspiracies but some I do. I don't believe in ETs but I do in good and bad angels. I don't believe in alien UFOs but I do believe we have some top secret aircraft. I have stood in the hanger that Gary Powers' U2 plane was kept in at Incirlik AB, Turkey. I shared a campfire with one of LBJ's secret service agents and got an earful of dirt on that guy. None of it was good. So until you've walked in my shoes and shared my life experiences get off my back. My thoughts are my thoughts, I shared them for your feedback not to be condemned for thinking about them out loud. What I can do is not share them with you and PL anymore. If that's not good enough, it was a pleasure to know you both. And now you know why I'm twice divorced.

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Jul 13, 2019 00:22:13   #
Pennylynn (a regular here)
 
Peewee wrote:
I'm aware of everything you posted that can be found in an English translation. Were German's during WWII masters of deception and impersonating others and assuming their identities and then murdering them?

I think they did it more than a few times. Were the Nazi's into the occult? They stole the gold teeth out of your ancestors and murdered them by the millions, do you think they wouldn't hesitate to steal an identity and keep their stolen treasures and escape judgement at Nuremberg? Of course, they would and it would have been easy to do. Germany is just now making reparations to Holocaust survivors when the cost is down because they are almost all dead.

Drop your defense shield a wee bit and just ask, is it possible. I'm not your enemy. Hitler had a lot of spies and they impersonated people from many countries. He sent them all over the world to find occult relics.

I didn't discriminate against you or any other Jewish person(s) except the Rothschild family. But if I wanted to I could have. Harvey Weinstein, Chuck Summer, Gloria Allred, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz to name a few I don't respect at all. Most Jews are wonderful people. Most of my dearest and funniest friends in the Air Force were Jewish. My all-time favorite commander was Col Harvey Manekofsky (sp), I still remember his laugh fondly. Playing the victim doesn't work with me, I treat everyone the same as much as they allow me. I treat all people of all colors and faiths with respect until they disrespect me or judge me without getting to know me. Especially if they accuse me of things I never did. I even applied for a JTF Peace Keeping job in the Siani so I could visit and see Israel on my off time. I didn't make the cut for some unknown reason. I've supported Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein work for years and my baby sister was cared for by a lady I only knew as momma Stein. I guess she could have been German.

Shalom, and I will always pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and Israel whether you like or approve of me or not.
I'm aware of everything you posted that can be fou... (show quote)


No.... a German did not steal the identity of a Rothschild. I never said anything about "approving or disapproving" of you.... As for as the occult, I do not know how to respond.... a true religious Jew would never be an occult member or use any idol worshiping or even naming someone equal to or above our Father. To do so would put us outside of the Covenant with G*d, dead forever. No going back, no heaven...no hell.... G*d will turn His back to us for all time.

Now then, I am not prone to beating a dead horse and I will never change your mind about the Rothschilds.... so I think I have said all that I wish to say on this subject.

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