HonorNCourage57 Loc: Born in Louisiana!!!living in Burien, Washing

Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many?
July 8, 2019 1052

Authored by Kelli Ballard via LibertyNation.com,

The border crisis continues to be a growing problem with virtually no solution in sight. The two sides of the aisle are too busy fighting each other and President Donald Trump to get anything accomplished. The Dems want open borders while the rest of the U.S. wants to protect our borders and everyone inside them. Now a new bill is set to be introduced by the Democrats that will increase the number of refugees we take in each year to a whopping 100,000.
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The “Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act” (H.R. 3524) being introduced by Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) is an attempt to increase the number of at-risk immigrant refugees with an emphasis on speeding up the process.

According to the United Nations, 22,900 refugees were resettled in the U.S. in 2018. Let me repeat that: 22,900 refugees last year and the Dems want to increase that to 100,000! To further emphasize the enormity of this, these numbers only relate to refugees as defined by their need to escape their homeland due to imminent fear or threats of harm or death. This number does not take into account the hundreds of thousands of immigrants stampeding our southern border on a daily basis. Nor does this include immigrants and refugees outside of Central America. This astronomical number refers only to those seeking asylum from the Northern Triangle countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The American I*********n L*wyers Association (AILA) is, of course, 100% behind this bill, and added its own suggestions to be implemented. Said AILA Executive Director Benjamin Johnson:

“To make the system efficient and fair, AILA calls upon the government to hire and send more asylum officers to the border, provide migrants with legal counsel, and stop what has become a knee-jerk practice of detaining asylum seekers. H.R. 3524 also calls for hiring more immigration judges, but on its own, more judges won’t eliminate the enormous 900,000 case backlog slowing the courts. Congress should immediately restore the authority that DOJ stripped from immigration judges to manage their dockets and decide cases in an impartial and independent manner, and in the long term Congress should create an independent immigration court system separate from the Department of Justice. We welcome the ‘Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act’ and urge Congress to move the bill forward quickly.”

In other words, it is okay to bring in more officers to the border to assist refugees, but it is immoral to send more patrol agents to protect our citizens.

Our detention centers, otherwise known as “concentration camps” from such geniuses as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are already splitting at the seams with the overcrowding of migrants spilling into the nation. Dems have been having a glorified field day complete with crocodile tears relating the horrible, inhumane, and atrocious conditions where immigrants are being housed while we figure out what to do with them. Why, then, would sensible lawmakers ever consider upping the cap number of refugees allowed in each year? Increasing the number will not improve conditions at the border.

One of the elements of the proposed act is to make it so immigrants seeking asylum can do so from their own country so that they don’t have to make the dangerous trek. In theory, this seems like a good idea – as long as the preapproved seekers are still met with a rigorous in-person vetting system once they reach the U.S. The idea is that this will help reduce the congestion at the border by allowing people to prequalify.

The United Nations reports that currently, it takes between 12 and 24 months for asylum seekers to be vetted once they are recommended to the U.S.



Screening by eight federal agencies including the State Department, Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.
Six security database checks and biometric security checks screened against U.S. federal databases.
Medical screening.
Three in-person interviews with Department of Homeland Security officers.

Before our elected representatives start quadrupling the numbers of refugees the U.S. processes each year, perhaps a better idea would be to first find a solution to deal with the enormous numbers we already have in our country before inviting even more.
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As long as our Border are still open to these I******s, there is no telling just how many more will creep through!!!!! So this is what i think. What do Y'all think?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The actual numbers of i*****l a***ns is probably 2.5 to 2.5 times what they claim it is. We are at "too many" as we speak.

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Agreed!!.. My question, silly though it may be.. is what makes the dems proposing this bill think that those aforementioned countries, that people are running from seeking asylum~Will those said countries actually let ppl file from their country of origin if they are as oppressive and nasty as they all feel they are???..Honest to God..Libs are soo Freakin backwards...What pisses me off is all this..border patrol may have had their hands full before.. Now they are completely overwhelmed and under staffed to take on what Libs propose.. its rediculous and WE need help for OUR people in this country not every man jack that says they are oppressed.. what about our homeless vets.. the elderly..regular homeless (though admittedly, some choose to be homeless w/no ties but that's not the majority) Now they want to give all these I******s free s**t.. Guess What.. Nothing is Free.. we the tax payers are footing the bill meanwhile getting more n more i******s coming in daily thanks to liberals..inviting them in!!..I'm pretty sure that Trump will Veto that bill.. one can only hope!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Trump will veto it.

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Most likely yes.. they just passed a bill to send 4.6 billion to the border to help with necessities food water.. more shelters.. with just the ones that are there Now!! at 100,000 a year We will be, if not already, a minority in this country.. we already are really.. This countries resources are slim enough for those that are here much less bringing in more!! Totally rediculous.. gives a clear idea of what part of the human anatomy they have their heads buried.. Also, AOC and her ilk v**ed down that bill then turn around and go down there and LIE about the conditions.. saying that money won't fix the problem.. Maybe not..but it's a start!!.. she is an i***t every day of the week!..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

In the history of mankind the right wing fish wrap press has never gotten any report about anthing correct...

https://www.aila.org/advo-media/press-releases/2019/congress-should-pass-the-northern-triangle-and-bor

Congress Should Pass the Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act
AILA Doc. No. 19062790 | Dated June 27, 2019

CONTACTS:
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202-507-7661
twiseman@aila.org Belle Woods
202-507-7675
bwoods@aila.org

WASHINGTON, DC - The American I*********n L*wyers Association (AILA) welcomed the introduction of the “Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act” (H.R. 3524) as an important step toward addressing the humanitarian crisis at our Southern border. The bill introduced by Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and other House members offers comprehensive solutions to address the violence and instability in Central America while also increasing the federal government’s capacity to manage the situation at the U.S. southern border.

Marketa Lindt, AILA President stated, “This bill not only provides solutions for the humanitarian situation in Central America but also ensures that migrants arriving at the U.S. southern border are screened in an orderly and humane manner. AILA has recommended precisely these kinds of policies that make the screening process more efficient while protecting due process. Just as important, AILA supports this bill because it reaches beyond our borders to strengthen the rule of law and to implement strategies to address the causes of the violence in Central America.”

AILA Executive Director Benjamin Johnson noted, “Americans want smart solutions that secure our border and also protect those fleeing life-threatening dangers, and this bill is a big step toward making that possible. To make the system efficient and fair, AILA calls upon the government to hire and send more asylum officers to the border, provide migrants with legal counsel, and stop what has become a knee-jerk practice of detaining asylum seekers. H.R. 3524 also calls for hiring more immigration judges, but on its own more judges won’t eliminate the enormous 900,000 case backlog slowing the courts. Congress should immediately restore the authority that DOJ stripped from immigration judges to manage their dockets and decide cases in an impartial and independent manner, and in the long term Congress should create an independent immigration court system separate from the Department of Justice. We welcome the ‘Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act’ and urge Congress to move the bill forward quickly.”

To learn more about how the bill’s approach aligns with AILA’s recommendations, and for a more detailed analysis on solutions that would address the situation at the border, read AILA’s Policy Brief for Effective Border Management.

Cite as AILA Doc. No. 19062790.


https://www.aila.org/advo-media/whats-happening-in-congress/pending-legislation/hr-3524-northern-triangle-and-border-stabilizat

HonorNCourage57 Loc: Born in Louisiana!!!living in Burien, Washing

Agree with your statement!!!! nwtk200y!!

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

I agree also, I do however have to question the due process for i******s!.. cheaper to send them home..unless they can prove the need for asylum!...Otherwise Asta! Most that do get a court date... don't show up bc they don't have the paperwork to prove why there are tryin to cross our border!.. whether it be asylum, or a work visa, school visa for College..Otherwise I say go to the back of the line at the Front door in our country.. If they were comin in My home's back door they Will get shot on sight.. shoot first ask questions later as is my right to defend my home.. Why should I******s be treated any different when they come across our country's border through the back door! Libs can cite any thing they want to try to justify another 100K per year coming here!! But it just doesn't fly in the face of the Taxes we will have to pay to sustain them while they are being processed!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You trump supporters who show such a fever of fear post your wishes as if the somehow were the subject..

No, wish all you want then see which hand turns brown.. darn I left out part of that line, sorry..

to cut past the 15 or so items which are now subject to the thread..

I want above all for our nation to follow it own laws.. we became the shinning light on the hill not because we had the most and biggest guns but because we followed our own laws as we wrote them. even to the point of following routes we would rather avoid..

All the confusion and aggravation on the border now, is because of attempts to avoid the laws we wrote..

the orange changed the time requirement for holding kids/families, trump stopped the staffing of judges that was underway, trump made a temporary condition into a permanent one and while congress has passed bill to alleviate some of the mess, McConnell or trump him self is not moving on the will of congress/senate and nothing is done..

Now a block of Republicans is blocking even the dept limit increase and spending increase trying to force more money for a longer term to the D o D..

You pick it, which problem do you see as more pressing.. the border of facing the shutdown..??

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

permafrost, You said, "I want above all for our nation to follow it own laws.." So what you are tellin me here is we need to follow our own laws!! Ok B***hin' how bout ENFORCING our own laws Instead of making More Reduntant laws, How bout "THEY" quit wasting tax payer dollars for some bunch of Root bound politicians making "New" laws to make them look like they are actually doin their Freakin JOBS!!!.. HOW Bout Both sides of the Isle comin together under our Commander in Chief!!.. Til ya v**e him out IF that happens he is still this country's President so get Over yourself, and talk to your freakin congressman about slackin on his job!!

As far as raising the debt ceiling.. How bout NOT sending fKing money over seas.. How bout we don't devalue the dollar more by raising said debt ceiling.. How bout, OUR Elected officials be they Dem OR Republicans, On BOTH sides get a brain and do their jobs instead of arguing like a bunch of b***hes in a freakin school yard on the Senate & House Floor!!.. As my signature states I am a constitutional conservative.. my desire for SMALLER gov't makes me more of a libertarian.. and I do NOT need Big Brother to be lookin at my life...I obey the law.. I don't need him making medical decisions for me as I am a big girl I can do that for myself and always Have, I DAMN Sure do NOT need him up in my reproductive organs, don't need them tellin me what to think or do on their behalf!!!!..and all WE as tax payers get, is In the butt no kiss no KY and they dip it in sand first.. fun fun! Yea I'm REALLY lookin forward to that move for this country~NOT!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

So, permafrost, you think Trump supporters fear i*****l i*********n? LOL! Yes, I'm sure that you, of Minnesota, have no concern about i******s flooding in. Not too many go up that way far north. LOL! Come down here to Texas or Arizona or Southern California and see if your attitude remains the same. Especially Texas. If the borders are opened to all, what do you think the population of Texas will be in about 10 - 15 years and what do you think our cities and neighborhoods will look like? There are many such neighborhoods even now and they don't look too good, let me tell you. There are entire suburbs that have become, essentially, little Mexico and they also aren't looking too good.

It is inevitable, when poor people flood an area, the area is hurt by it, for what ever reason; call it r****m or what not. That's just the way it is. They simply bring the very thing the are fleeing with them and spread it like wild fire.

So don't sit up there in your winter wonder land a thousand miles from the border and get all self righteous about us here in Texas resisting the flood from the south. That is BS!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

We don’t really have any true idea of how many i*****l a***ns or aliens them selves have come into this country.

What we do know is we are not able to fund or sustain them by about 5 years ago!!
In 2017, FAIR's "The Fiscal Burden of I*****l I*********n on United States Taxpayers" report put the total cost of i*****l i*********n at $135 billion a year, while claiming undocumented immigrants paid only $19 billion a year in taxes. That leaves a net cost to local, state and federal governments of $116 billion a year....

We feed, house, give cell phones, free food and cash, provide free day care etc while our homeless are forgotten! While our VETS are forgotten!! BS, American people first not last!!!

Immigration reform is a joke! We need to simply enforce what is already on the books...New laws written will change nothing if you don’t enforce the damn things... Sanctuary status whether state or county are illegal; arrest the governors, the captains of the police department that won’t enforce cooperation... etc They are breaking immigrations laws in place now!! Do that a couple times and you’ll see this BS over sanctuary status shrivel even more than it is beginning to do ....

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You, as all trump supporters always think the only law that counts and is lawful are the laws that favor your views.

You insist Dems oppose secure borders, no we do not we pay taxes, encourage action and contact our congress people on the very subject and others..

If we as a nation do not follow our own laws we are as lost as the orange cult can make us.

In only 2 plus years we have lost our world status which was fought so hard for over generations.

The orange cult keeps insisting the border problem and ill treatment is all by the law, while that is not true due to the simple fact that many of I*********n l*ws are subject to "interpretation" on how to enforce them..

The debt ceiling... No one, other then the pols in power like the process and always blame the other party for our disastrous spending..Ronnie is the leader of raising the debt ceiling.. Obama had the most difficulty..

Should we go ahead and default on our never ending dept to the lenders.. whoever you see them to be?

As a right winger you tell us all that only your side wants smaller govt and less spending. again not true..

And as an add on... Reagan who is called a champion of small government, increased the size of government exponentially in his terms..

trump does not know what government is, so in his first spending bill, he tried to strip all services for the middle class and raised the spending to the trillion dollar level because he liked the look of navy ships and airplanes..

To me, it seems that we, the people even on OPP. could find agreement and a way to things done..

But the two sided political system.. never will agree.

While McConnell hold bill which have passed congress, the senate can not even see them.

Polosi is fighting so hard to keep her party power that she will scuttle the youngsters before they get a chance to make an impact..

So to conclude for a second... I do not like any one very much..

Other then Amy.. she is great and needs support..

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

No, not "the rest of the US", just 'the US'. The Dems do want open borders. The US is not the Dems, they do not belong in our universe but we tolerate them anyway because Almighty God, in His infinite wisdom, saw fit to create them. God only knows why...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

To be sure, I conceded the location argument sometime ago, so I do agree that if I lived near the southern border my view could be different..

But Minnesota is not without concern. Via the I-35, it is only a days drive to be parking in the twin cities..
we have areas of both cities which are mostly Mexican, have been for years..

so it is not only Somalis that are found in the state.. and we have had some raids and arresting of workers and even employers in some cases..

I have tried to be clear that my view does not say we have no problem, but I do oppose several, nearly all the approaches used to try correcting the problem..

In a nutshell, I blame congress, both sides.. they are more concerned with fixing blame on the other side than finding solutions to the problem. Which yes is very difficult..

two points, make it better for them back home, not simply throw money at it, but deal somehow with corruption, crime, lost economy and the effects of c*****e c****e to name a few..

How to do that is for the state department to solve. Of course they hardly have an office staff now let alone a functioning dept..

from one of Texas next door states...