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Jul 1, 2019 18:13:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/

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Jul 1, 2019 19:02:47   #
Ricktloml
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat... (show quote)



Obama wanted to manage America's decline. His policies were meant to hold people back.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:27:32   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat... (show quote)


The Obama economy was a result of the Bush economy who's economy was a result of the Bill Clinton economy ( who's administration saw the last balanced budget, i.e., no deficit spending ) who's..................

It isn't rocket science. What people SHOULD be asking, and what they should be concerned about is...................how is the economy doing for THEM. I couldn't give a fig if the wealthy become wealthier, if nary a dime makes into MY bank account. So far, my expenses are climbing, I had to pay MORE taxes last year.................and my income is exactly the same. That means, using math, that MY economy is the worst it's ever been. Maybe you'd like to credit THAT to Obama.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:36:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The Obama economy was a result of the Bush economy who's economy was a result of the Bill Clinton economy ( who's administration saw the last balanced budget, i.e., no deficit spending ) who's..................

It isn't rocket science. What people SHOULD be asking, and what they should be concerned about is...................how is the economy doing for THEM. I couldn't give a fig if the wealthy become wealthier, if nary a dime makes into MY bank account. So far, my expenses are climbing, I had to pay MORE taxes last year.................and my income is exactly the same. That means, using math, that MY economy is the worst it's ever been. Maybe you'd like to credit THAT to Obama.
The Obama economy was a result of the Bush economy... (show quote)


I’d get a new accountant. Don’t know what business your in but I have an LLC and my family tax return went down also.
The housing crisis fiasco started before Bush but he sat there and let it happen. They’re all guilty. How did you pay more in tax’s if your income stayed the same. Makes no sense. Hey, it’s your side that say they are going to have an economy that works for everyone. What a load of BS. There is no economy that works for everyone because not everyone works.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:41:11   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JFlorio wrote:
I’d get a new accountant. Don’t know what business your in but I have an LLC and my family tax return went down also.
The housing crisis fiasco started before Bush but he sat there and let it happen. They’re all guilty. How did you pay more in tax’s if your income stayed the same. Makes no sense.


My deductions and exemptions were cut. I didn't have enough income to invest in tax dodges and what not, so I had to pay the full MONTY. Those who don't own businesses are screwed.

I wonder, what would happen if EVERYONE had enough deductions, exemptions and credits, that they didn't have any tax liability, you know, like Jeff Bezo's and Amazon?

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Jul 1, 2019 22:01:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What deductions and exemptions were cut? Something smells here.
lpnmajor wrote:
My deductions and exemptions were cut. I didn't have enough income to invest in tax dodges and what not, so I had to pay the full MONTY. Those who don't own businesses are screwed.

I wonder, what would happen if EVERYONE had enough deductions, exemptions and credits, that they didn't have any tax liability, you know, like Jeff Bezo's and Amazon?

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Jul 1, 2019 22:06:51   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat... (show quote)


And here Trump is, poised to expose the Fed and take on the Global Cabal. Wonder what he'll do after 2020. I know what the Cabal will do, though. They'll start a world war or they'll lose their power.

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Jul 2, 2019 09:46:00   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat... (show quote)

Mission accomplished. Almost. If he had been able to 'rig' it for Hillary, the circle would have been complete.

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Jul 2, 2019 12:38:04   #
Bcon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The Obama economy was a result of the Bush economy who's economy was a result of the Bill Clinton economy ( who's administration saw the last balanced budget, i.e., no deficit spending ) who's..................

It isn't rocket science. What people SHOULD be asking, and what they should be concerned about is...................how is the economy doing for THEM. I couldn't give a fig if the wealthy become wealthier, if nary a dime makes into MY bank account. So far, my expenses are climbing, I had to pay MORE taxes last year.................and my income is exactly the same. That means, using math, that MY economy is the worst it's ever been. Maybe you'd like to credit THAT to Obama.
The Obama economy was a result of the Bush economy... (show quote)


Just so everyone remembers, that crash of the market at the end of the Bush years was rhe result of the policies put in place by first, Carter, and the second, by Bill Clinton. I am referring to the housing market that both democratic presidents proposed that loosing the restrictions on who could get a mortgage that really had no way of repaying the debt, and the law by Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank that George Bush tried seventeen times to get changed, and was ignored actually caused the crash. It may have been under Bushes watch, but it was not Bushes policy.

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Jul 2, 2019 13:59:42   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Bcon wrote:
Just so everyone remembers, that crash of the market at the end of the Bush years was rhe result of the policies put in place by first, Carter, and the second, by Bill Clinton. I am referring to the housing market that both democratic presidents proposed that loosing the restrictions on who could get a mortgage that really had no way of repaying the debt, and the law by Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank that George Bush tried seventeen times to get changed, and was ignored actually caused the crash. It may have been under Bushes watch, but it was not Bushes policy.
Just so everyone remembers, that crash of the mark... (show quote)


Crashes are engineered to a big degree, I'm thinking, to keep the central banking hot-air currency system afloat...but such systems are designed to fail and usually an "event" takes place to reset the game.

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Jul 2, 2019 14:18:48   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
BigMike wrote:
Crashes are engineered to a big degree, I'm thinking, to keep the central banking hot-air currency system afloat...but such systems are designed to fail and usually an "event" takes place to reset the game.

All it takes is control over the price of money and all the rest falls into place. How much could you make if you knew when the next crash was going to be and where? Buy on the low, sell on the high, then sit back and count the profits while the rest of the schmucks look on as their life savings go up in smoke. Rinse, repeat. It even has a name: The 'business cycle'. Boom, bust. Boom, bust. On and on it goes until one day the auditors show up and the whole game is exposed for the fraud it is. Well, this one has managed to survive well over 100 years and those on the inside are still counting their 'boom/bust' profits.

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Jul 2, 2019 19:18:13   #
teabag09
 
JFlorio wrote:
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat politicians and their sycophants proclaiming the Trump economy is the result of the Obama economy. The Trump economy is in spite of the Obama economy. I wear no partisan hat in this debate. I am not an economist and have no degree in economics. Not sure that matters since economists never seem to agree with each other. However; I do know quite a bit about the economy and how it works. I have to if I want to be successful at my job. Which I am. Very. Obama was not all to blame for his sluggish economy. There was the 2008 crash to contend with. Obama and his advisors were either clueless or purposefully helping to devise policy that gave us the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Not once in eight years did the economy average a 3% or more yearly gain. Wage growth was stagnate at best and part time jobs, food stamps, and wealth disparity grew at an all time high. Small businesses for the first time had more closings then openings under Obama policies. The supposed tough new banking laws put many small banks out of business and gave even more money to Wall Street. If the Banks were to blame for the crash (which they were along with politicians) then why didn't any of the evil rats go to jail during the Obama years? Ask yourself, After Obama left office why did he accept large speaking fees from,,,,, wait a minute,,,here it comes,,,,,,Wall Street?
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/occupy-obama-he-orchestrated-a-massive-t***sfer-of-wealth-to-the-1-percent/
I am sick and tired of people falling for Democrat... (show quote)


Jim, what I don't get is why, after seeing the results of his policies, anyone would want to hear much less pay him to speak. To any sane, half way educated person with any common sense at all would know that what he was saying was total poppycock. I suppose the money is the answer. Mike

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Jul 2, 2019 19:54:15   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
teabag09 wrote:
Jim, what I don't get is why, after seeing the results of his policies, anyone would want to hear much less pay him to speak.

That's his 'cut'. they 'get theirs' up front then pay him bouc**p bucks to 'speak' on the back end. That way his income is 'legit'.

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Jul 3, 2019 01:31:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
All it takes is control over the price of money and all the rest falls into place. How much could you make if you knew when the next crash was going to be and where? Buy on the low, sell on the high, then sit back and count the profits while the rest of the schmucks look on as their life savings go up in smoke. Rinse, repeat. It even has a name: The 'business cycle'. Boom, bust. Boom, bust. On and on it goes until one day the auditors show up and the whole game is exposed for the fraud it is. Well, this one has managed to survive well over 100 years and those on the inside are still counting their 'boom/bust' profits.
All it takes is control over the price of money an... (show quote)


They're going to try to reset the system they way they always do...by starting a war. See my post "Something's Up".

Something is definitely up.

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Jul 3, 2019 07:49:14   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
BigMike wrote:
They're going to try to reset the system they way they always do...by starting a war. See my post "Something's Up".

Something is definitely up.

Yes it is, and it counts losses in lives and profits in dollars.

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