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Jun 28, 2019 14:30:51   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
You c*****e c****e believer dummies worry about carbon dioxide and other gases think nothing of
spraying our skies with nano aluminum and other stuff. This is evident anywhere in the USA just look up.

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Jun 28, 2019 14:44:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bilordinary wrote:
You c*****e c****e believer dummies worry about carbon dioxide and other gases think nothing of
spraying our skies with nano aluminum and other stuff. This is evident anywhere in the USA just look up.




Gee I have never done that in my life>.. Is it common in your area of the world..

do you mean to tell me that you are truly concerned over the cloud left behind jet aircraft???

well, we all have our worries...

have you ever looked into it???

Who explained these things to you?



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Jun 28, 2019 15:35:51   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
My my,,, all those lies.. about what? Heat and drought in India, boiling heat for the soccer games in Spain, Greenland melting billion ton of ice in single day..

Or maybe that does not count because, what the heck, they are not really in your world right..

Oh darn,, what about Florida.. having record setting heat for the next few days.. Is that in the United States? Ask your orange fish wrap so you show your trust for your cult leader..


We've had all that and more throughout the history of this planet, in fact as I understand it, not having been there, of course, the Earth's temperatures were even hotter in the late 1800s.

This is called "nature." It is all about the planet's relationship to the sun. This was completely understood throughout history until the g*******t factions at the U.N. and the international left decided to make a political issue of it.

It has always been the M.O. of the left to blame wh**ever establishment is in place for a non-solvable problem, claiming that we're all doomed because of it, and then claim that only their solutions can save us.

After awhile it actually becomes little more than tedious.

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Jun 28, 2019 15:41:09   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
This is not about history. this is here and now.. we do not have this spanning millions or 100,000 years, we have it over decades and we never were in place to adjust all those years ago.

Also it is not the earth that we are concerned being destroyed, it is our society... mankind.. I do not care that much about anything or anyone who is not blood related.. I love animals and dogs most of all, but them or me, I will always pick me..

Back in the 1880s when the first warning, that I know of, was published the writer was lucky to not be put in Bellevue... then starting in the 1970s, opposing the "ice age" thrillers, I got more structured research going..

the big oil companies were well aware of the greenhouse gas problem well before the general public and kept a tight lid on information. Just as the tobacco companies covered up their own problems.

And like the tobacco companies, big oil hired sudo science guys, some of them also used by the tobacco buch, and fed lies and cover ups to the public and media..

Now bring on the greedy money, owner of oil and f****l f**ls, add the dumb orange con man looking for his own pile of unneeded money and we have the refusal to participate in the world program of prevention..

how far our nation has fallen in so short a time.. from world leader to not even a factor.. And only 2 1/2 years have passed..
This is not about history. this is here and now.. ... (show quote)


Yeah...and it's so different now.

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Jun 28, 2019 17:57:03   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
We've had all that and more throughout the history of this planet, in fact as I understand it, not having been there, of course, the Earth's temperatures were even hotter in the late 1800s.

This is called "nature." It is all about the planet's relationship to the sun. This was completely understood throughout history until the g*******t factions at the U.N. and the international left decided to make a political issue of it.

It has always been the M.O. of the left to blame wh**ever establishment is in place for a non-solvable problem, claiming that we're all doomed because of it, and then claim that only their solutions can save us.

After awhile it actually becomes little more than tedious.
We've had all that and more throughout the history... (show quote)



Gee seth, go sit down, have a beer, eat some chips... believe as you wish.. never mind that all the industrial world, right or left has taken action on the issue, our military strategist include it, the Mfg account for it and engeneers plan for it.. you just believe what you wish.. it is OK.

You and I will die before any major problems show up. maybe some food problems.. more floods etc..

but no sweat, relax, no bother, you won`t notice much, you probably have not walked on the wild side for some time.. don`t change.



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Jun 28, 2019 18:03:59   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
Inslee says we are..but he didn't elaborate. I was left wondering what sting this is.

My sister lives in a beautiful house on the beach in Florida. She specifically put a measuring stick on her beach to record as the water rises. The stick is buried in sand. But we still look at it to make sure it is the right stick to measure the rising of the waters in Florida.

This is a serious stick. It is 12 feet tall above ground, and is anchored with a steel rod that was driven 10 feet into the ground.

The water has been at the same level since 1979.
Inslee says we are..but he didn't elaborate. I was... (show quote)


I surely am! Spring became Summer, and it's hot outside! I have work to do outside, and I don't want to overheat, or have my beer get warm!
We've GOT to stop this!

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Jun 28, 2019 18:22:59   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee seth, go sit down, have a beer, eat some chips... believe as you wish.. never mind that all the industrial world, right or left has taken action on the issue, our military strategist include it, the Mfg account for it and engeneers plan for it.. you just believe what you wish.. it is OK.

You and I will die before any major problems show up. maybe some food problems.. more floods etc..

but no sweat, relax, no bother, you won`t notice much, you probably have not walked on the wild side for some time.. don`t change.
Gee seth, go sit down, have a beer, eat some chips... (show quote)


No problem, I've simply acquired the wisdom that comes with age, rather than drinking the Kool-Aid® that in turn inspires a lack of age-accrued wisdom that was responsible for the term:

"No fool like an old fool." 😁

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Jun 28, 2019 18:24:08   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
Now vernon,,, I have been upfront about a carbon tax for a long time..

It will never pass if people get to v**e on the subject..

On the other hand, it is a good and direct way, (depending on how it is structured) to cut the problem in the most rapid way..

Just to point out the obvious, the tax would not go to any individual for spending money.. It would go for any and all programs to reduce the carbon footprint and greenhouse gas..

And it could be a tax that we can reduce by our own actions over time.

depending of course on how the tax was structured.. a number of options have been looked at..

but to my knowledge, no carbon tax is being considered or promoted at this time.

Just as in the reduction of the Ozone hole, united action can greatly reduce the problem and knowing we are running out of time. We should get on the bus for the safety of our children and others down the line.
Now vernon,,, I have been upfront about a carbon t... (show quote)


If you look at the Paris accord, the money goes to third world countries to help them reduce carbon emissions.

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Jun 28, 2019 18:43:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
If you look at the Paris accord, the money goes to third world countries to help them reduce carbon emissions.




Look harder and find out why and for what.. and how much and how long..

It is complicated..

But why should we be the only developed nation not in the accord?

Once we were leaders, now we do not even attempt to solve the problems..

have a nice night.. until tomorrow.. by..



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Jun 28, 2019 19:14:11   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Zemirah wrote:
It's pretty well a "believe who you will" situation online. Personally, I believe He who spoke first:

"As long as the earth remains, there will be planting and harvest, cold and heat; winter and summer, day and night. As long as the world exists, there will be a time for planting and a time for harvest. There will always be cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night." (Genesis 8:22)


Everyone on line has their critics and their own bias, including Media Bias Fact Check:


Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest?

By James D Agresti
April 24, 2017

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest/



Media Bias Fact Check wrote:
Overall, we rate RationalWiki Left-Center biased based on use of loaded language against conservatives and High for factual reporting due to pro-science reporting coupled with proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.
It's pretty well a "believe who you will"... (show quote)


Interesting, to prove that Media Bias/Fact Check is inaccurate in their review of the website, you post a link to an article that proves that Media Bias/Fact Check gave a legitimate assessment of that website. The article you linked to has the title "Media Bias Fact Check: Incompetent or Dishonest?", loaded words showing bias against MB/FC.

MB/FC review of Just Facts Daily:

Media Bias/Fact Check wrote:
RIGHT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Right-Center sources.

In summary, this is a factual website from a sourcing standpoint and impressively researched. It does however convey a right leaning bias through story se******n that is more favorable toward conservative causes and more negative toward liberal policy.
Detailed Report
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180
RIGHT-CENTER BIAS br These media sources are sligh... (show quote)


Good job proving that they reviewed the site correctly.

As for your posting:

Media Bias Fact Check wrote:
Overall, we rate RationalWiki Left-Center biased based on use of loaded language against conservatives and High for factual reporting due to pro-science reporting coupled with proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.


Your point is? Personally I think "High for factual reporting due to pro-science reporting coupled with proper sourcing and a clean fact check record." says it all. What is not to like about facts?

While I do admit, it would be better if they didn't utilize "loaded language against conservatives", as long as they are factually correct, I can overlook that minor flaw.

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Jun 29, 2019 05:33:00   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Utilizing "loaded language against conservatives" does not promote factual reporting. It admits bias.

Bias extends throughout their reporting and makes it impossible to trust anything they report, as it is not unbiased, and is therefore not trustworthy.

If you were a conservative, it would not be a "minor flaw."

Reporting on Science is easily manipulated, and this acclaimed "clean fact check record" due to pro-science reporting is nonsense on it's face.

If their reporting was merely self-admittedly biased against liberals/progressives you would not be quite so enamoured with it.


Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Your point is? Personally I think "High for factual reporting due to pro-science reporting coupled with proper sourcing and a clean fact check record." says it all. What is not to like about facts?

While I do admit, it would be better if they didn't utilize "loaded language against conservatives", as long as they are factually correct, I can overlook that minor flaw.

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Jun 29, 2019 06:31:47   #
Big Kahuna
 
EmilyD wrote:
Inslee says we are..but he didn't elaborate. I was left wondering what sting this is.

My sister lives in a beautiful house on the beach in Florida. She specifically put a measuring stick on her beach to record as the water rises. The stick is buried in sand. But we still look at it to make sure it is the right stick to measure the rising of the waters in Florida.

This is a serious stick. It is 12 feet tall above ground, and is anchored with a steel rod that was driven 10 feet into the ground.

The water has been at the same level since 1979.
Inslee says we are..but he didn't elaborate. I was... (show quote)


And I am sure by 2031, 12 years from now, the water level will be the same or may even drop. Show that stick to AOC and Al "hore". Maybe we could use it for a good caning.

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Jun 29, 2019 06:32:59   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
This is not about history. this is here and now.. we do not have this spanning millions or 100,000 years, we have it over decades and we never were in place to adjust all those years ago.

Also it is not the earth that we are concerned being destroyed, it is our society... mankind.. I do not care that much about anything or anyone who is not blood related.. I love animals and dogs most of all, but them or me, I will always pick me..

Back in the 1880s when the first warning, that I know of, was published the writer was lucky to not be put in Bellevue... then starting in the 1970s, opposing the "ice age" thrillers, I got more structured research going..

the big oil companies were well aware of the greenhouse gas problem well before the general public and kept a tight lid on information. Just as the tobacco companies covered up their own problems.

And like the tobacco companies, big oil hired sudo science guys, some of them also used by the tobacco buch, and fed lies and cover ups to the public and media..

Now bring on the greedy money, owner of oil and f****l f**ls, add the dumb orange con man looking for his own pile of unneeded money and we have the refusal to participate in the world program of prevention..

how far our nation has fallen in so short a time.. from world leader to not even a factor.. And only 2 1/2 years have passed..
This is not about history. this is here and now.. ... (show quote)


Equating tobacco companies with big oil companies because of the damage they do is pure hyperbola. Smoking tobacco plainly causes damage to one’s lungs. It’s readily observable.
But whether burning fossils fuels causes g****l w*****g.... oops, I mean c*****e c****e, is not so clear.
Obviously CO2 is a byproduct of respiration. Plants inhale CO2 and exhale O2. Animals inhale O2 and exhale CO2.
The c*****e c****e so called crisis has all the elements of a Satanic sinister plot: the bad guy - big oil, so everyone can h**e them, the altar - the whole world, so everyone can worship, and the cure, reducing CO2 - so everyone can contribute in their own way ( drive a Prius or change a lightbulb)
Climate is SUPPOSED to change. It’s called the weather.
In biblical times Babylonians attempted to save themselves from future floods by building a tower to heaven, instead of seeking salvation through God. He got angry at them, and confused their language so they couldn’t continue.
Today, we have no excuse for not seeking salvation since Jesus has made it available to all.
Those who worship at the altar of c*****e c****e are falling for Satan’s old trick to have people worship anyone/anything but the one true God. God’s firmly in charge of the weather including the climate, and considers today’s c*****e c****e Chicken Littles just like the Babylonians of the Old Testament - confused!

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Jun 29, 2019 06:38:46   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
Now vernon,,, I have been upfront about a carbon tax for a long time..

It will never pass if people get to v**e on the subject..

On the other hand, it is a good and direct way, (depending on how it is structured) to cut the problem in the most rapid way..

Just to point out the obvious, the tax would not go to any individual for spending money.. It would go for any and all programs to reduce the carbon footprint and greenhouse gas..

And it could be a tax that we can reduce by our own actions over time.

depending of course on how the tax was structured.. a number of options have been looked at..

but to my knowledge, no carbon tax is being considered or promoted at this time.

Just as in the reduction of the Ozone hole, united action can greatly reduce the problem and knowing we are running out of time. We should get on the bus for the safety of our children and others down the line.
Now vernon,,, I have been upfront about a carbon t... (show quote)


Perm you have the scientific acumen of a 3 year old who thinks diaper change is the same as c*****e c****e. Take your baby diapers off and become a real man and quit being a big baby with wet diapers!!

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Jun 29, 2019 06:47:20   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
We are the only country on earth that is in compliance with the dictates of the Paris accord, which is rather entertaining, since we're happily no longer signed into it, as all they wanted from us is untold millions, if not billions of dollars.

None of the European countries making all the noise about the necessity of being part of their "agreement," have any intention of meeting their environmental demands, as we have already done.

Eliminating C02 would insure we would all starve, as plants cannot grow or even survive without it, and cows, sheep, pigs, goats, etc. would perish without plants... as would we, for they produce oxygen.

Thank you for posting the t***h.


waltmoreno wrote:
Equating tobacco companies with big oil companies because of the damage they do is pure hyperbola. Smoking tobacco plainly causes damage to one’s lungs. It’s readily observable.
But whether burning fossils fuels causes g****l w*****g.... oops, I mean c*****e c****e, is not so clear.
Obviously CO2 is a byproduct of respiration. Plants inhale CO2 and exhale O2. Animals inhale O2 and exhale CO2.
The c*****e c****e so called crisis has all the elements of a Satanic sinister plot: the bad guy - big oil, so everyone can h**e them, the altar - the whole world, so everyone can worship, and the cure, reducing CO2 - so everyone can contribute in their own way ( drive a Prius or change a lightbulb)
Climate is SUPPOSED to change. It’s called the weather.
In biblical times Babylonians attempted to save themselves from future floods by building a tower to heaven, instead of seeking salvation through God. He got angry at them, and confused their language so they couldn’t continue.
Today, we have no excuse for not seeking salvation since Jesus has made it available to all.
Those who worship at the altar of c*****e c****e are falling for Satan’s old trick to have people worship anyone/anything but the one true God. God’s firmly in charge of the weather including the climate, and considers today’s c*****e c****e Chicken Littles just like the Babylonians of the Old Testament - confused!
Equating tobacco companies with big oil companies ... (show quote)

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