cold iron Loc: White House

Forcing companies to pay more always equals job losses.

After you heard President Barack Obama's call for a hike in the minimum wage, you probably wondered the same thing I did: Was Obama sent from the future by Skynet to prepare humanity for its ultimate d******n by robots, and the end of our world?

But just in case the question didn't occur to you, let me explain. On Tuesday, the day before Obama called for an increase in the minimum wage, the restaurant chain Applebee's announced that it will install iPad-like tablets at every table. Chili's already made this move earlier this year.

You'll be able to place your order and pay your check at the same time, no human needed, no jobs around here now.
So, where will our wealth come from with out a job? Will we look like Cuba or some 3rd world place so? Yes I think so.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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And for those who cannot do without employees, the public will get charged more in order for the business to do business. Additionally, some businesses will close, EVERYBODY'S wages will go up, there will be a cost increase on every item any American can afford to buy.

cold iron Loc: White House

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I find it odd that the left wingers can not understand this..

BoJester

So what wage would be acceptable to you and the business community?

$5/hr? or $3/hr?

Would lower wages really increase employment?

And at $200/week, all of those employees would need local/state/federal assistance.

And since these wages are so low, few if any taxes except FICA would be paid.

And besides a tank of gas and some fast food, the low wage worker would contribute nothing to the economy

Why can't those on the right understand that?

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

Bo, first of all, it's not that lower wages necessarily INCREASES employment, it's that artificially higher wages DECREASE employment. You can make all the arguments you want about employees not being able to live on the minimum wage and needing public assistance, but if they lose that job they will need MORE public assistance. IT IS NOT THE EMPLOYERS' RESPONSIBITY to see that their employees get by on what they earn. That's the EMPLOYEES' responsibility. Your employer is not responsible for your care and feeding any more than he is your baby-sitter. And the government has NO RIGHT to dictate to an employer how much he should pay his employees, as that's a matter which can and should be decided by the employer and the employee. The market place can and should decide. If someone doesn't like the wage paid by a particular job he is free to try to get a higher-paying job or seek job training to get a more highly sk**led job. There weren't a lot of people starving before the minimum wage existed because they figured out how to makes ends meet, e.g., by spending less on unnecessary things, working two jobs, or getting a better education which in turn could lead to a better job. Our lives and our jobs should be matters of personal responsibility without the government getting involved.

BoJester

If an employer has no employees, he can keep all of his income as profits.

The problem is that if there is no one to do the work, than there won't be much income.

It is the employers responsibility to provide safe working conditions and fair compensation for the work performed.

When employers fail to do that, the government needs to intervene

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

Well by that logic the government should not only mandate a minimum wage but force every employer to hire a minimum number of employees so that more people have jobs. Yeah, that makes sense.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Most teenagers still live at home with mom and pop so there would be no need for assistance. Do you HONESTLY believe that the economy is contributed to by taking my dollar and handing it to someone else. By taking taxpayer dollars and handing them to people who don't/won't/can't keep books and in many cases merely use those dollars for drugs and booze? Exactly what do you think drives economies? What you are advocating is legal theft, not economics.

cold iron Loc: White House

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Minimum wage jobs are meant for entry level people like kids after school or summer jobs. Not for full time work, if you have zero sk**ls to offer to your employer you will stay in that place for ever. If you do not like this place then go to school at night and get more sk**ls at something. If you want to be a professional Minimum wage person then do not complain, it's your choice no one else.

BoJester

The question is what is the acceptable wage that you and/or business wants to pay?

You don't like the proposed $10.10/hr, or the current $7.25/hr.

I asked if business would pay $5 or $3 or $2/hr if that would make you happy.


Would YOU work for that? or you wife? or your children?

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

You're asking the wrong question. What's an acceptable wage for one person may be unacceptable for another. The point is it shouldn't be up to the government to determine a minimum wage for anyone.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Ditto! Ditto! Ditto!
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oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

What BoClown and others of the far left lean are thinking is that we should have only one employer, the government, and that is so much like what they want with Single Payer healthcare. One has to look carefully at what they write to realize that they want what the Soviet Union had.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I'd like to answer your question by posing my own. If you had a lady who cleaned your home, what would you pay her, and on what basis? And would she get an assured raise regularly?

cold iron Loc: White House

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obviously you can not understand the issue. dumb dumb