JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Point out the weakness in my position if you are so smart.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Not calling Obama out for the very same thing IS a double standard! LOL! It would appear that you have, indeed, fallen for a double standard.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Since I have called out neither Obama or Trump on this issue, it seems your chuckling is premature. Reread my original post...it is about calling the same behaviors by the same names.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Reading comprehension. Point out anywhere where I have called Trump a r****t, or wh**ever sins I'm guilty of from my 'ilk', in this discussion.

I pointed out if one is going to post that Obama is a r****t, then Trump is a r****t for engaging in the same behavior. I'm not the one who brought race into this discussion.

But now that you mention it....

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

The policies aren't Trumps but the laws put in place by our Congress and now that these laws need to be changed the progressives/Dems/c*******ts don't want to give Trump, what is needed to help our border enforcement. All they want to do is blame him for this problem which he didn't create. and stand by and do nothing and let this problem become more dangerous for our border patrol and the other agent heling with this influx of people that can't be gotten rid of because of the laws of this country and the liberal courts continually rule against Trump when he has a temporary fix for the problem.

Big dog

It sounds awfully like the Puritans presiding over the witch trials back in Salem.

DannoBoone Loc: NE Iowa

Just more demon**i projectionism. "Look over there, squirrel!"

Big dog

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Mikeyavelli

And if it is wrong, Obama has the power to make it a virtue.

EconomistDon

So stiff, tell me, do you condemn Trump but not Obama for doing exactly the same thing? Do you condemn Trump even though he can't get Democrats in the House to approve money to solve the problem, something Obama never tried to do? Please elaborate on your opinion of all this. Since you are so smart, I am anxious to hear your explanation.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

A Scathing Denunciation of Some Administration’s Immigration Enforcement
By Jim Geraghty

June 24, 2019 11:57 AM

The PBS Frontline special entitled “Lost In Detention” represents a scathing indictment of the administration’s immigration policy. The yearlong investigation did an extensive and deep dive into the U.S. immigration enforcement system and stories of hidden abuse in detention centers.

The nearly hourlong report makes for harrowing viewers: Women who have been detained complaining about being harassed by guards for sexual favors, sexually assaulted by guards, and guards threatening to k**l the women they are harassing if they talk. A single mom with two daughters who overstayed a visa gets deported back to Mexico just because she changed lanes without signaling. Cops describe patrolling neighborhoods with significant number of i*****l i*******ts, where people instinctively run from the sight of a police car. A mother of five American-born children being deported over a speeding ticket.

The report describes, “a vast network of 250 detention centers, from county jails to large centers run by private prison companies, where immigrants facing deportation are held until they can be removed from the country. In the past decade, three million immigrants have been detained in the system.” The report shows white-domed tents surrounded by barbed wire, and are described as overcrowded warehouses of people. Those who have been through the detention centers describe beatings, racial slurs, official coverups, and threats to deport anyone who complains. The problem is described as more than a few “bad apples,” but more of “barrels of bad apples.”

In the Frontline report, the administration insists the current enforcement policies are necessary to protect the American people. The report shows the president traveling to El Paso and boasting, “We have strengthened border security beyond what many believed was possible. We now have more boots on the ground and we are deporting those who are here illegally.” The deputy director of ICE boasts of “record-breaking numbers in terms of criminal alien removals” that include “1,000 murderers, 6,000 sex offenders, 45,000 serious drug violators. As we expand the deployment of Secure Communities, focus on criminal aliens, you’ll see that number continue to go up and up.” Officials from the administration boast that they’re finally taking enforcement seriously, a contrast with their lax predecessors.

One of the president’s immigration advisors callously declares, “At the end of the day, when you have a community of 10 million, 11 million people living and working in the United States illegally, some of these things are going to happen. Even if the law is executed with perfection, there will be parents separated from their children. They don’t have to like it, but it is a result of having a broken system of laws.”

Critics complain that the administration’s policy is just “enforcement on steroids.” The report warily details how ICE has extended its reach by enlisting the help of local law enforcement to better identify i*****l i*******ts who have committed crimes — turning local cops into a de facto enforcement branch of federal i*********n l*w.

Wait, wait, I’m sorry, this Frontline special is from October 2011, and describes the immigration policies of the Obama administration. Clearly, these policies do not warrant a heated national conversation, are not a national scandal, outrage, or embarrassment, and do not deserve furious denunciation all across the political spectrum. If they did, we would have heard all of this eight years ago. While the allegations of abuse are repulsive, they simply didn’t seem to interest the media or the public on a large scale back in 2011.

And regarding the way i*****l i*******ts are being hunted, arrested, and deported, clearly the president knew what he was doing and this was simply tough enforcement of the i*********n l*ws on the books. If it wasn’t, surely all of the current Democratic p**********l contenders who are furious about the current policies would have noticed. I mean, Joe Biden was vice president when all of this was going on.

Or is it just that these longstanding enforcement policies are acceptable under President Obama but not acceptable under President Trump?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Thank you. Those cages these fools are so upset about were built by Obama not Trump. Exact same separations occurred under Obama. it is the Democrats who will not support a bill that stops the flow of i******s, anchor babies, dreamers and all the rest. Why? This question is too easy to answer (except for smart guys like WCS) V**ES. First get the i******s here. Next; give them a bunch of tax payer funded (see; it's not free) goodies. Then legalize them and have a majority of new Democrat v**ers. If someone's stupid enough to believe that these POS's in congress care about illegal children I have a mountain view in Florida to sell you. Hell they don't care about American citizen children.

Mikeyavelli

Yep, the economy is Obama's but the cages were built by Trump.
What a pile of nadler!

herbie

the only reason you republicans h**e Obama is because he is black, your all r****ts

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Great post Blade. They never have the same vision when their party in in power. They simply ignore the evidence put before them. So very sad. They don't want to help the American people. Just help the foreign invaders.