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Jun 19, 2019 19:26:27   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I think, Critical Critic, the answer, and the problem is in the first paragraph of Bob's article. Our leaders have neglected their first Constitutional responsiblity, being the problem, encouraging people with a strong sense of Constitutional adherence, to run for office, is the answer.

Ok, I’ll re-read the first paragraph again, and I agree with you here. Also what the article says about going back to the gold standard, and forcing accountability made sense too.
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Yeah, I know, wishful thinking. One's own creative passive resistance will have to due, till a more organized approach can be undertaken. God Bless America!

Lol, true.

Here’s an essay claiming a more organized approach. It’s rather lengthy, when you have the time, I’d appreciate your take.

https://fee.org/articles/a-better-way-of-selecting-presidents/

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Jun 20, 2019 09:00:50   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I agree. People complain about the yearly deficts and the national debt, but would scream bloody murder if necessary steps were taken to correct them.


It can happen if you do a few things. Deport the i******s first. Then eliminate several agencies. Plenty of jobs out their right now. Then go Old Testament and just forgive our debt to ourselves with a Jubilee.

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Jun 20, 2019 14:07:42   #
Richard Rowland
 
[quote=The Critical Critic]Lol, true.

Here’s an essay claiming a more organized approach. It’s rather lengthy, when you have the time, I’d appreciate your take.

https://fee.org/articles/a-better-way-of-selecting-presidents/[/quote


I read the whole thing, Critical. I found the author's (Frederick Manchester) comments, regarding the past and present process for electing the president, interesting. Unfortunately, the better system to which he refers will never be realized, if anything, things will, and are becoming worse.

The point made about drifting more towards democracy is accurate when considering the push to eliminate the E*******l College process. Also, I noticed the essay ended abruptly, with a sentence going nowhere. It appeared more was intended.

Thanks for sharing.

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Jun 20, 2019 14:33:49   #
Carol Kelly
 
lpnmajor wrote:
No. We have become entitled, whiny and selfish.


Not all of us! Speak for yourself. Those of us on Social Security have already donated more than $2trillion without even having knowledge of the gift.

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Jun 20, 2019 17:32:22   #
Brad1040
 
We better fix the debt or it will bring down this Country. Both Party’s are equally to blame.

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Jun 20, 2019 19:46:45   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Do you think the American people would be willing to make the sacrifices necessary in spending cuts and some tax increases in order to have a balanced federal budget?


we did it once before we can do it again but first, you have to get rid of the freeloaders all the i******s are costing this country billions and cali wants to put all theirs on their state insurance really who do you think is paying for that.WE ARE get rid of all the free stuff and put up the wall pointing finger doesnt help it just causes more anger

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Jun 20, 2019 19:49:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bggamers wrote:
we did it once before we can do it again but first, you have to get rid of the freeloaders all the i******s are costing this country billions and cali wants to put all theirs on their state insurance really who do you think is paying for that.WE ARE
we did it once before we can do it again but first... (show quote)

Only if you write the check. Think about it.

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Jun 20, 2019 19:52:30   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Only if you write the check. Think about it.


well I don't do checks and I don't think my debit card has that much punch to it

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Jun 20, 2019 20:48:52   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bggamers wrote:
well I don't do checks and I don't think my debit card has that much punch to it

I think you know exactly what I said, and you also know that's not it. 'Writing the check' is making the payment. You may or may not choose to write an actual check or you may choose some other mutually agreeable form of payment, but in any case, you are 'writing the check'. Failing doing so or not is your choice.

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Jun 20, 2019 22:21:12   #
teabag09
 
lpnmajor wrote:
No. We have become entitled, whiny and selfish.


Speak for yourself piss ant. Mike

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Jun 21, 2019 00:37:43   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Do you think the American people would be willing to make the sacrifices necessary in spending cuts and some tax increases in order to have a balanced federal budget?


It won’t happen as long as corporations, and esp. foreign, are treated a people as defined by the Constitution.
“Corporations have been pushing for more and more constitutional rights since the first years of our nation’s government, and so far there’s no indication they’ll be stopping anytime soon.”

https://www.history.com/news/14th-amendment-corporate-personhood-made-corporations-into-people

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Jun 21, 2019 00:45:57   #
badbob85037
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Do you think the American people would be willing to make the sacrifices necessary in spending cuts and some tax increases in order to have a balanced federal budget?


When younger I got a $5 and some change tax return. A month later I got a letter telling me to send it back and I did. A few weeks latter I received another letter again telling me to send it back. I did and again they sent it back. This happened two times more. Just the postage alone already went passed the $5. The last time I said to Hell with this and was done playing their stupid game. The next letter they sent me threatened to take my home, my cars, and everything else I owned.

About 15 years ago I worked for a company that at the time I was hired it was understood I would not be paid my drive time back to the shop at the end of the day. I agreed to this along with everybody else that worked there. A few employees that were fired made a complaint to one of over 2,000 federal agencies that control it. I had worked there 18 months and it was over $2,000 they said the company owed me.

Now you don't get the money. The company has to pay it to the government then the government is to give it to you. It took me over two years to get that money It was pay back for the $5. To this date I am the only person that had his money returned but it was an up hill battle and I enjoyed every minute of it. I called one last time and asked where my 2 years of interest was. They told me they didn't get interest on the money. I replied who's backyard did you have it buried in.

Any chance I get to screw the government I take it because they take every chance they get to screw me. It ain't whining or crying it's pay back.

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Jun 21, 2019 14:28:12   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I read the whole thing, Critical. I found the author's (Frederick Manchester) comments, regarding the past and present process for electing the president, interesting. Unfortunately, the better system to which he refers will never be realized, if anything, things will, and are becoming worse.

The point made about drifting more towards democracy is accurate when considering the push to eliminate the E*******l College process. Also, I noticed the essay ended abruptly, with a sentence going nowhere. It appeared more was intended.

Thanks for sharing.
I read the whole thing, Critical. I found the auth... (show quote)

My pleasure. Thank you for taking the time, I appreciate your feedback, and I agree. Considering that the essay is sixty years old and nobody has taken the time to make it a realization speaks volumes. I didn’t agree with all of it, but also found some things interesting. I also agree with you about drifting towards a democracy, I think a lot of that has to do with so many talking heads, academia, and even government officials describing our country as a democracy and not the republic that we are. As it’s said, repeat a lie often enough...

About that last sentence, my apologies, I should have given you a heads up about that. It’s either continued from, or part of another long essay titled “apropos of the presidency” which another good read, but I’ve asked enough of you already.

Thank you again for your time and consideration.

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