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Jun 19, 2019 12:12:47   #
bahmer
 
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power
By Shane Idleman - June 19, 2019

I so appreciate the heart of those on both sides of this debate. My hope is that readers will read the entire article before drawing conclusions. Those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. To say that authentic Christians h**e homosexuals demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the Christian faith. The ability to relate to people on their level, show genuine concern, and love them regardless of their lifestyle is a mark of true Christianity.

I know that many are truly sincere in their efforts, but the Bible is crystal clear on sexual sin, including homosexuality. Unfortunately, those with opposing views are often categorized as irrational, judgmental, bigoted, intolerant, and “anti-choicers.” Why are those pushing tolerance intolerable of opposing views? The reason is that this is not about tolerance or h**e-speech but about pushing an agenda. In 2015 Joe Biden wrote: “Bakers, photographers, florists, and Christian retreat centers will participate in our same-sex weddings or be bankrupted.” In short, comply or pay the price, especially if the E******y Act becomes law.

The thought seems to be, If we can stop the voice of t***h, silence the churches, and push our lifestyle on the culture, it will confirm that what we’re doing is right. But one can never silence the voice of conviction; we take it to our grave. No matter how many laws are passed in favor of homosexuality or how many corporations, communities, and counties embrace this agenda, it will not (it cannot) change God’s mind. This is why we must speak the t***h in love. Opinions change, but t***h does not. I had the privilege of discussing this topic with Lauren Green on Fox News; listen to the full audio here.

I recently heard that the cover of an insurance plan for county supervisors has two homosexual men holding hands walking down a path and that law enforcement is being asked to wear the rainbow f**g on their uniforms during gay p***e month. Not only have we crossed the line of morality, but this power play also forces those with opposing beliefs to either conform or be quiet. Again, they promote tolerance, but they have no tolerance for those with opposing views, pushing their agenda on everyone from kindergartners to those who protect and serve.

Think about this: p***e is the downfall of nations, yet we flaunt it in the face of anyone who disagrees. Sexual sin is glamorized, and the rainbow is used as a logo. Have we forgotten that the rainbow is actually a reminder of God’s judgment against rebellious people? Let’s make sure we properly understand what we are promoting and supporting. Using the word p***e with the rainbow is shaking our tiny fists at God, taunting Him while abusing His grace. This is a very clear picture of aggression and hostility.

L**T p***e apparently has power because everyone from corporate America to county officials feel the need to bow their knee to political correctness rather than biblical t***h. We are now picking up the pieces of a broken nation, and it’s reflected in our laws, our personal lives, and in our children. America’s moral heartbeat has ceased because we have crossed the line. It’s one thing to express your views personally, but why are fire departments and police stations caving into political correctness in Los Angeles? Because a few loud voices are demanding tolerance? Why are major hospitals and corporations pushing (yes, pushing) this agenda on their employees, encouraging them to attend and celebrate gay p***e?

California . . . America . . . wake up! Your apathy speaks volumes, your silence is deafening. Pastors, shame on us. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing political correctness over biblical faithfulness, crowd appeal over crowd conviction, and tickling the ears over challenging the heart. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, and sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Are you preaching His Word (all of His Word) faithfully? I’m amazed at how many full-length sermons I hear from pastors in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, and so on who talk about everything but sin and repentance. They pump up the crowd, but no one repents. They want to be funny and cutting-edge, yet they are devoid of spiritual power. (Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.)

It’s no surprise that our nation—and the church—desperately need to hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” to awaken, convict, and restore. It was not so long ago that we were concerned about the fall of America. America cannot fall because she has already fallen. We need resuscitation, renewal, and revival of the t***h. Our conscience as a nation has been seared. Returning to God is our only hope!

Again, those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. Turn to God today, and let Him save, define, and encourage you. He will never leave nor forsake you if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus took your place on the cross and paid the penalty of sin for you. Read more here at Can a Person Be Gay and Still Be a Christian?

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Jun 19, 2019 13:47:10   #
Carol Kelly
 
bahmer wrote:
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power
By Shane Idleman - June 19, 2019

I so appreciate the heart of those on both sides of this debate. My hope is that readers will read the entire article before drawing conclusions. Those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. To say that authentic Christians h**e homosexuals demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the Christian faith. The ability to relate to people on their level, show genuine concern, and love them regardless of their lifestyle is a mark of true Christianity.

I know that many are truly sincere in their efforts, but the Bible is crystal clear on sexual sin, including homosexuality. Unfortunately, those with opposing views are often categorized as irrational, judgmental, bigoted, intolerant, and “anti-choicers.” Why are those pushing tolerance intolerable of opposing views? The reason is that this is not about tolerance or h**e-speech but about pushing an agenda. In 2015 Joe Biden wrote: “Bakers, photographers, florists, and Christian retreat centers will participate in our same-sex weddings or be bankrupted.” In short, comply or pay the price, especially if the E******y Act becomes law.

The thought seems to be, If we can stop the voice of t***h, silence the churches, and push our lifestyle on the culture, it will confirm that what we’re doing is right. But one can never silence the voice of conviction; we take it to our grave. No matter how many laws are passed in favor of homosexuality or how many corporations, communities, and counties embrace this agenda, it will not (it cannot) change God’s mind. This is why we must speak the t***h in love. Opinions change, but t***h does not. I had the privilege of discussing this topic with Lauren Green on Fox News; listen to the full audio here.

I recently heard that the cover of an insurance plan for county supervisors has two homosexual men holding hands walking down a path and that law enforcement is being asked to wear the rainbow f**g on their uniforms during gay p***e month. Not only have we crossed the line of morality, but this power play also forces those with opposing beliefs to either conform or be quiet. Again, they promote tolerance, but they have no tolerance for those with opposing views, pushing their agenda on everyone from kindergartners to those who protect and serve.

Think about this: p***e is the downfall of nations, yet we flaunt it in the face of anyone who disagrees. Sexual sin is glamorized, and the rainbow is used as a logo. Have we forgotten that the rainbow is actually a reminder of God’s judgment against rebellious people? Let’s make sure we properly understand what we are promoting and supporting. Using the word p***e with the rainbow is shaking our tiny fists at God, taunting Him while abusing His grace. This is a very clear picture of aggression and hostility.

L**T p***e apparently has power because everyone from corporate America to county officials feel the need to bow their knee to political correctness rather than biblical t***h. We are now picking up the pieces of a broken nation, and it’s reflected in our laws, our personal lives, and in our children. America’s moral heartbeat has ceased because we have crossed the line. It’s one thing to express your views personally, but why are fire departments and police stations caving into political correctness in Los Angeles? Because a few loud voices are demanding tolerance? Why are major hospitals and corporations pushing (yes, pushing) this agenda on their employees, encouraging them to attend and celebrate gay p***e?

California . . . America . . . wake up! Your apathy speaks volumes, your silence is deafening. Pastors, shame on us. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing political correctness over biblical faithfulness, crowd appeal over crowd conviction, and tickling the ears over challenging the heart. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, and sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Are you preaching His Word (all of His Word) faithfully? I’m amazed at how many full-length sermons I hear from pastors in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, and so on who talk about everything but sin and repentance. They pump up the crowd, but no one repents. They want to be funny and cutting-edge, yet they are devoid of spiritual power. (Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.)

It’s no surprise that our nation—and the church—desperately need to hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” to awaken, convict, and restore. It was not so long ago that we were concerned about the fall of America. America cannot fall because she has already fallen. We need resuscitation, renewal, and revival of the t***h. Our conscience as a nation has been seared. Returning to God is our only hope!

Again, those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. Turn to God today, and let Him save, define, and encourage you. He will never leave nor forsake you if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus took your place on the cross and paid the penalty of sin for you. Read more here at Can a Person Be Gay and Still Be a Christian?
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power br By Shane Idle... (show quote)


I didn’t read “can a person be gay and still be a Christian” because, in my humble opinion, living in sin precludes still being a Christian. If you’re gay but not living that lifestyle, then yes, you can. Being homo should be your private business, not an in your face confrontation with others. The government,the churches, businesses should not be forced into acceptance of this deviance. This is a really heavy subject, but my. motto is “ to thine own self be true”. In the meantime, fight back against sin.

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Jun 19, 2019 15:04:34   #
bahmer
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I didn’t read “can a person be gay and still be a Christian” because, in my humble opinion, living in sin precludes still being a Christian. If you’re gay but not living that lifestyle, then yes, you can. Being homo should be your private business, not an in your face confrontation with others. The government,the churches, businesses should not be forced into acceptance of this deviance. This is a really heavy subject, but my. motto is “ to thine own self be true”. In the meantime, fight back against sin.
I didn’t read “can a person be gay and still be a ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen I am with you on that one.

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Jun 20, 2019 11:34:31   #
TrueAmerican
 
bahmer wrote:
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power
By Shane Idleman - June 19, 2019

I so appreciate the heart of those on both sides of this debate. My hope is that readers will read the entire article before drawing conclusions. Those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. To say that authentic Christians h**e homosexuals demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the Christian faith. The ability to relate to people on their level, show genuine concern, and love them regardless of their lifestyle is a mark of true Christianity.

I know that many are truly sincere in their efforts, but the Bible is crystal clear on sexual sin, including homosexuality. Unfortunately, those with opposing views are often categorized as irrational, judgmental, bigoted, intolerant, and “anti-choicers.” Why are those pushing tolerance intolerable of opposing views? The reason is that this is not about tolerance or h**e-speech but about pushing an agenda. In 2015 Joe Biden wrote: “Bakers, photographers, florists, and Christian retreat centers will participate in our same-sex weddings or be bankrupted.” In short, comply or pay the price, especially if the E******y Act becomes law.

The thought seems to be, If we can stop the voice of t***h, silence the churches, and push our lifestyle on the culture, it will confirm that what we’re doing is right. But one can never silence the voice of conviction; we take it to our grave. No matter how many laws are passed in favor of homosexuality or how many corporations, communities, and counties embrace this agenda, it will not (it cannot) change God’s mind. This is why we must speak the t***h in love. Opinions change, but t***h does not. I had the privilege of discussing this topic with Lauren Green on Fox News; listen to the full audio here.

I recently heard that the cover of an insurance plan for county supervisors has two homosexual men holding hands walking down a path and that law enforcement is being asked to wear the rainbow f**g on their uniforms during gay p***e month. Not only have we crossed the line of morality, but this power play also forces those with opposing beliefs to either conform or be quiet. Again, they promote tolerance, but they have no tolerance for those with opposing views, pushing their agenda on everyone from kindergartners to those who protect and serve.

Think about this: p***e is the downfall of nations, yet we flaunt it in the face of anyone who disagrees. Sexual sin is glamorized, and the rainbow is used as a logo. Have we forgotten that the rainbow is actually a reminder of God’s judgment against rebellious people? Let’s make sure we properly understand what we are promoting and supporting. Using the word p***e with the rainbow is shaking our tiny fists at God, taunting Him while abusing His grace. This is a very clear picture of aggression and hostility.

L**T p***e apparently has power because everyone from corporate America to county officials feel the need to bow their knee to political correctness rather than biblical t***h. We are now picking up the pieces of a broken nation, and it’s reflected in our laws, our personal lives, and in our children. America’s moral heartbeat has ceased because we have crossed the line. It’s one thing to express your views personally, but why are fire departments and police stations caving into political correctness in Los Angeles? Because a few loud voices are demanding tolerance? Why are major hospitals and corporations pushing (yes, pushing) this agenda on their employees, encouraging them to attend and celebrate gay p***e?

California . . . America . . . wake up! Your apathy speaks volumes, your silence is deafening. Pastors, shame on us. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing political correctness over biblical faithfulness, crowd appeal over crowd conviction, and tickling the ears over challenging the heart. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, and sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Are you preaching His Word (all of His Word) faithfully? I’m amazed at how many full-length sermons I hear from pastors in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, and so on who talk about everything but sin and repentance. They pump up the crowd, but no one repents. They want to be funny and cutting-edge, yet they are devoid of spiritual power. (Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.)

It’s no surprise that our nation—and the church—desperately need to hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” to awaken, convict, and restore. It was not so long ago that we were concerned about the fall of America. America cannot fall because she has already fallen. We need resuscitation, renewal, and revival of the t***h. Our conscience as a nation has been seared. Returning to God is our only hope!

Again, those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. Turn to God today, and let Him save, define, and encourage you. He will never leave nor forsake you if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus took your place on the cross and paid the penalty of sin for you. Read more here at Can a Person Be Gay and Still Be a Christian?
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power br By Shane Idle... (show quote)


I do not h**e gays I feel sorry for them !!!!!!

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Jun 20, 2019 13:05:13   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
bahmer wrote:
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power
By Shane Idleman - June 19, 2019

I so appreciate the heart of those on both sides of this debate. My hope is that readers will read the entire article before drawing conclusions. Those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. To say that authentic Christians h**e homosexuals demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the Christian faith. The ability to relate to people on their level, show genuine concern, and love them regardless of their lifestyle is a mark of true Christianity.

I know that many are truly sincere in their efforts, but the Bible is crystal clear on sexual sin, including homosexuality. Unfortunately, those with opposing views are often categorized as irrational, judgmental, bigoted, intolerant, and “anti-choicers.” Why are those pushing tolerance intolerable of opposing views? The reason is that this is not about tolerance or h**e-speech but about pushing an agenda. In 2015 Joe Biden wrote: “Bakers, photographers, florists, and Christian retreat centers will participate in our same-sex weddings or be bankrupted.” In short, comply or pay the price, especially if the E******y Act becomes law.

The thought seems to be, If we can stop the voice of t***h, silence the churches, and push our lifestyle on the culture, it will confirm that what we’re doing is right. But one can never silence the voice of conviction; we take it to our grave. No matter how many laws are passed in favor of homosexuality or how many corporations, communities, and counties embrace this agenda, it will not (it cannot) change God’s mind. This is why we must speak the t***h in love. Opinions change, but t***h does not. I had the privilege of discussing this topic with Lauren Green on Fox News; listen to the full audio here.

I recently heard that the cover of an insurance plan for county supervisors has two homosexual men holding hands walking down a path and that law enforcement is being asked to wear the rainbow f**g on their uniforms during gay p***e month. Not only have we crossed the line of morality, but this power play also forces those with opposing beliefs to either conform or be quiet. Again, they promote tolerance, but they have no tolerance for those with opposing views, pushing their agenda on everyone from kindergartners to those who protect and serve.

Think about this: p***e is the downfall of nations, yet we flaunt it in the face of anyone who disagrees. Sexual sin is glamorized, and the rainbow is used as a logo. Have we forgotten that the rainbow is actually a reminder of God’s judgment against rebellious people? Let’s make sure we properly understand what we are promoting and supporting. Using the word p***e with the rainbow is shaking our tiny fists at God, taunting Him while abusing His grace. This is a very clear picture of aggression and hostility.

L**T p***e apparently has power because everyone from corporate America to county officials feel the need to bow their knee to political correctness rather than biblical t***h. We are now picking up the pieces of a broken nation, and it’s reflected in our laws, our personal lives, and in our children. America’s moral heartbeat has ceased because we have crossed the line. It’s one thing to express your views personally, but why are fire departments and police stations caving into political correctness in Los Angeles? Because a few loud voices are demanding tolerance? Why are major hospitals and corporations pushing (yes, pushing) this agenda on their employees, encouraging them to attend and celebrate gay p***e?

California . . . America . . . wake up! Your apathy speaks volumes, your silence is deafening. Pastors, shame on us. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing political correctness over biblical faithfulness, crowd appeal over crowd conviction, and tickling the ears over challenging the heart. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, and sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Are you preaching His Word (all of His Word) faithfully? I’m amazed at how many full-length sermons I hear from pastors in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, and so on who talk about everything but sin and repentance. They pump up the crowd, but no one repents. They want to be funny and cutting-edge, yet they are devoid of spiritual power. (Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.)

It’s no surprise that our nation—and the church—desperately need to hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” to awaken, convict, and restore. It was not so long ago that we were concerned about the fall of America. America cannot fall because she has already fallen. We need resuscitation, renewal, and revival of the t***h. Our conscience as a nation has been seared. Returning to God is our only hope!

Again, those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. Turn to God today, and let Him save, define, and encourage you. He will never leave nor forsake you if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus took your place on the cross and paid the penalty of sin for you. Read more here at Can a Person Be Gay and Still Be a Christian?
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power br By Shane Idle... (show quote)


You won't hear the clergy either they are too afraid to cross paths with the opposition or they are afraid of losing their tax exemptions. I think most Americans didn't give a fly how people chose to live UNTIL they started pushing it down everyone's throat (except or else) You live your life and let me live mine it's worked well till they decided they needed to k**l God and have all of us on our knees and worshipping the the new generation of screwed up people

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Jun 21, 2019 05:57:43   #
Iliamna1
 
bahmer wrote:
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power
By Shane Idleman - June 19, 2019

I so appreciate the heart of those on both sides of this debate. My hope is that readers will read the entire article before drawing conclusions. Those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. To say that authentic Christians h**e homosexuals demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the Christian faith. The ability to relate to people on their level, show genuine concern, and love them regardless of their lifestyle is a mark of true Christianity.

I know that many are truly sincere in their efforts, but the Bible is crystal clear on sexual sin, including homosexuality. Unfortunately, those with opposing views are often categorized as irrational, judgmental, bigoted, intolerant, and “anti-choicers.” Why are those pushing tolerance intolerable of opposing views? The reason is that this is not about tolerance or h**e-speech but about pushing an agenda. In 2015 Joe Biden wrote: “Bakers, photographers, florists, and Christian retreat centers will participate in our same-sex weddings or be bankrupted.” In short, comply or pay the price, especially if the E******y Act becomes law.

The thought seems to be, If we can stop the voice of t***h, silence the churches, and push our lifestyle on the culture, it will confirm that what we’re doing is right. But one can never silence the voice of conviction; we take it to our grave. No matter how many laws are passed in favor of homosexuality or how many corporations, communities, and counties embrace this agenda, it will not (it cannot) change God’s mind. This is why we must speak the t***h in love. Opinions change, but t***h does not. I had the privilege of discussing this topic with Lauren Green on Fox News; listen to the full audio here.

I recently heard that the cover of an insurance plan for county supervisors has two homosexual men holding hands walking down a path and that law enforcement is being asked to wear the rainbow f**g on their uniforms during gay p***e month. Not only have we crossed the line of morality, but this power play also forces those with opposing beliefs to either conform or be quiet. Again, they promote tolerance, but they have no tolerance for those with opposing views, pushing their agenda on everyone from kindergartners to those who protect and serve.

Think about this: p***e is the downfall of nations, yet we flaunt it in the face of anyone who disagrees. Sexual sin is glamorized, and the rainbow is used as a logo. Have we forgotten that the rainbow is actually a reminder of God’s judgment against rebellious people? Let’s make sure we properly understand what we are promoting and supporting. Using the word p***e with the rainbow is shaking our tiny fists at God, taunting Him while abusing His grace. This is a very clear picture of aggression and hostility.

L**T p***e apparently has power because everyone from corporate America to county officials feel the need to bow their knee to political correctness rather than biblical t***h. We are now picking up the pieces of a broken nation, and it’s reflected in our laws, our personal lives, and in our children. America’s moral heartbeat has ceased because we have crossed the line. It’s one thing to express your views personally, but why are fire departments and police stations caving into political correctness in Los Angeles? Because a few loud voices are demanding tolerance? Why are major hospitals and corporations pushing (yes, pushing) this agenda on their employees, encouraging them to attend and celebrate gay p***e?

California . . . America . . . wake up! Your apathy speaks volumes, your silence is deafening. Pastors, shame on us. A clear line of demarcation is being drawn in the sand. Many pastors are choosing political correctness over biblical faithfulness, crowd appeal over crowd conviction, and tickling the ears over challenging the heart. After all, whoever has the most social media followers, campuses, and sermon downloads is the way to gauge success, right? Wrong. God judges faithfulness—faithfulness to His Word. ​

Are you preaching His Word (all of His Word) faithfully? I’m amazed at how many full-length sermons I hear from pastors in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, and so on who talk about everything but sin and repentance. They pump up the crowd, but no one repents. They want to be funny and cutting-edge, yet they are devoid of spiritual power. (Hear more here on why kingdoms are colliding.)

It’s no surprise that our nation—and the church—desperately need to hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” to awaken, convict, and restore. It was not so long ago that we were concerned about the fall of America. America cannot fall because she has already fallen. We need resuscitation, renewal, and revival of the t***h. Our conscience as a nation has been seared. Returning to God is our only hope!

Again, those who strongly believe in the Bible and God’s will regarding sexual behavior also strongly believe in unconditional love and forgiveness. Turn to God today, and let Him save, define, and encourage you. He will never leave nor forsake you if you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus took your place on the cross and paid the penalty of sin for you. Read more here at Can a Person Be Gay and Still Be a Christian?
L**T P***e Endued with L**T Power br By Shane Idle... (show quote)


Well stated and Amen. Yes, a person can be gay and be a Christian. What I've found among the gay friends I have who claim to be Christian, is that most of them claim to be Christian without being born again. So they're Christians in their own deluded minds, going to a church where their lifestyle is readily accepted. There are also two individuals I know who are born again Christians, one is a female who has abandoned that lifestyle and the other knows what the t***h is but is pursuing his gay lifestyle and is currently in a relationship with another man. But he knows he is living in sin. We keep praying for him, though, because we know he's saved.

Which takes us to another issue, can a person sin and be a Christian? Yep, Christians have been sinning since Christianity was started. St. John, the disciple had a bit to say about this.
I John I: 3-10 states:
3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. 4 These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete.
5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the t***h; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the t***h is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

Please note verse 8 and 10. John uses the word 'we'. Was John a Christian? Emphatically YES and the Epistle of John s addressed to Christians with the stated ourpose that "our joy may be made complete."
But there's still the issue of sin. Christians are commanded to confess their sin and the word for confess is 'homologeo', or state the same thing God says about sin.
He says primarily 3 things about a Christian's sin:
1) Sin separates us from fellowship with God. As King David cried out "If I regard iniquity (sin) in my heart, God will not hear me. This not to be confused with a loss of salvation.
2) It was paid for completely at the cross and there's nothing you can add or detract from the completed work of salvation.
3) Repent. You have no excuse. Stop sinning. You, as a born again Christian, have the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to choose NOT to sin.


As a nation we Christians can cry out to the Lord for His deliverance from the national quagmire we've gotten ourselves into. But He's still waiting for the cry of repentence, for us to turn from our evil ways and not be so stiff-necked and p***eful. I hope you'll join me. Iliamna.

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Jun 21, 2019 06:37:35   #
Rose42
 
Can a person be homosexual and be Christian? Yes. Can they unrepentantly continue to live the lifestyle and be one? No. Neither can an unrepentant and continuing adulterer, thief or anything else. Occasionally lapsing into sin is one thing. Living in open r*******n is another.

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Jun 21, 2019 08:04:42   #
Iliamna1
 
It is possible for a truly born again Christian to continue to live in sin and r*******n. But the God of Light cannot fellowship with such a one. There are cycles of discipline that are bestowed upon such a person, the ultimate being the 'sin unto death.' God has no more use for that Christian so he's taken out of this life. HNe doesn/t lose his salvation, but there are no rewards.

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Jun 21, 2019 08:39:39   #
Rose42
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
It is possible for a truly born again Christian to continue to live in sin and r*******n. But the God of Light cannot fellowship with such a one. There are cycles of discipline that are bestowed upon such a person, the ultimate being the 'sin unto death.' God has no more use for that Christian so he's taken out of this life. HNe doesn/t lose his salvation, but there are no rewards.


We all have elements of r*******n in us. I don't see how its possible for one who is truly saved to continue in the same pattern of sin. Repentance brings forth change.

John 3:4-10

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[a] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

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