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Very Interesting PBS Half Hour Synopsis On The Mueller Report, No Editorial, Just Facts
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Jun 18, 2019 15:59:05   #
woodguru
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
They can not discern fact from fiction and will only assume that if it is even remotely negative towards Trump that it is fiction. They CAN NOT be swayed by facts.


I've got RW friends, it's mind numbing to try to get them to look at any facts, they don't want to know, it just creates a dilemma that hurts their heads to have to sort out the conflicts with the rhetoric they already believe.

I wasted two years writing a book about issues that had a straight factual point of view, and the dialog that would help republicans deal with facts. I gave it up, there is no approach that works, it is a pure waste of time.

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Jun 18, 2019 16:06:04   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
I've got RW friends, it's mind numbing to try to get them to look at any facts, they don't want to know, it just creates a dilemma that hurts their heads to have to sort out the conflicts with the rhetoric they already believe.

I wasted two years writing a book about issues that had a straight factual point of view, and the dialog that would help republicans deal with facts. I gave it up, there is no approach that works, it is a pure waste of time.


Yes, it is a pure waste of time trying to get sensible people to believe the tissue of lies that comprises the average Democrat argument. Maybe you should instead cultivate a hobby, like weaving baskets.

I hear there's a wonderful, peaceful place upstate where the nice men and women will let you weave baskets all day...

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Jun 18, 2019 16:36:20   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/17/1865517/-Just-the-facts-PBS-summarizes-the-Mueller-Report-in-30-minutes?utm_campaign=trending

I figured we'd start seeing purely factual and easy to understand break downs of what the report says. This one also covers what it doesn't say, and has attempted to be as fair as possible to Trump in an effort to clarify what wasn't said.

If you can't start watching easy to follow pieces on the literal facts you simply don't care about or want the facts, you are comfortable with rhetoric and misrepresentation. This isn't the kind of thing you can pass off as lies, they are analyzing the written words.

People owe it to themselves and this country to get this stuff straight so we can have dialogs about facts and not lies.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/17/1865517... (show quote)


Fact: Mewler's job was to prosecute or not. He didn't.

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Jun 18, 2019 16:44:06   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
I've got RW friends, it's mind numbing to try to get them to look at any facts, they don't want to know, it just creates a dilemma that hurts their heads to have to sort out the conflicts with the rhetoric they already believe.

I wasted two years writing a book about issues that had a straight factual point of view, and the dialog that would help republicans deal with facts. I gave it up, there is no approach that works, it is a pure waste of time.


Fact: You have nothing and we've tolerated this anti-American investigation in search of a crime and cover up of other crimes by the investigators.

What Trump is going to do is the same thing we've all watched your guys do to everyone they've persecuted in their effort to get Trump.

You're finally getting some bits and pieces in the lamestream. Don't worry...there will be more.

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Jun 18, 2019 17:22:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/17/1865517/-Just-the-facts-PBS-summarizes-the-Mueller-Report-in-30-minutes?utm_campaign=trending

I figured we'd start seeing purely factual and easy to understand break downs of what the report says. This one also covers what it doesn't say, and has attempted to be as fair as possible to Trump in an effort to clarify what wasn't said.

If you can't start watching easy to follow pieces on the literal facts you simply don't care about or want the facts, you are comfortable with rhetoric and misrepresentation. This isn't the kind of thing you can pass off as lies, they are analyzing the written words.

People owe it to themselves and this country to get this stuff straight so we can have dialogs about facts and not lies.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/17/1865517... (show quote)


If they didn't note that Mueller made the statement the he found "no evidence of no collusion," then it is a biased report.

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Jun 18, 2019 17:26:23   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If they didn't note that Mueller made the statement the he found "no evidence of no collusion," then it is a biased report.


"no evidence of no collusion," would be the same thing as saying "evidence of collusion". I really don't think that was what you meant to say but it is what you DID say.

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Jun 18, 2019 22:30:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
"no evidence of no collusion," would be the same thing as saying "evidence of collusion". I really don't think that was what you meant to say but it is what you DID say.


Sorry. He said they found no evidence that Trump did not obstruct. It was meant to cloud the issue of obstruction. It turns over the law, so to speak. There can never be evidence something didn't happen.

He meant it to be taken as you said, but legally it can't. One can't convict on the lack of evidence that a crime was not committed.

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Jun 19, 2019 01:29:46   #
Nickolai
 
BigMike wrote:
Fact: Mewler's job was to prosecute or not. He didn't.







He didn't prosecute because of DOJ policy of not prosecuting a sitting president so he listed all of Trumps obstructions and left it up to congress to do something about it and they can by impeaching him the only tool they have to comedown on the crook. Wo is an un indicted co-conspirator in campaign finance violations

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Jun 19, 2019 02:06:38   #
Seth
 
Nickolai wrote:
He didn't prosecute because of DOJ policy of not prosecuting a sitting president so he listed all of Trumps obstructions and left it up to congress to do something about it and they can by impeaching him the only tool they have to comedown on the crook. Wo is an un indicted co-conspirator in campaign finance violations


There was no crime to obstruct the investigation of.

When's the last time you heard of anyone being charged with, say, "resisting arrest" when they're not charged with a crime they were being arrested for?

What's actually happening is, just like when T***p w*n the e******n, you TDSers were hit first with shock, then the longest period of denial in the history of the universe (it's still going on), and then along came the Mueller investigation. Then you were drooling for two years with anticipation, and once again, shock and denial.

Now you're feebly grasping at straws, thinking futilely that this tepid obstruction malarkey is actually going to go someplace, but the only place it's going is into the same s**t can as the collusion B.S.

You may as well get that hangdog look off your face and move on, have a little fun, maybe go bite your neighbor's pitbull or throw a few rocks at passing cars, or wh**ever you like to do for recreation, because Donald J. Trump is here to stay for another term after this one and there's not a thing you or any of your komrades can do about it.

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Jun 19, 2019 03:22:49   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Nickolai wrote:
He didn't prosecute because of DOJ policy of not prosecuting a sitting president so he listed all of Trumps obstructions and left it up to congress to do something about it and they can by impeaching him the only tool they have to comedown on the crook. Wo is an un indicted co-conspirator in campaign finance violations


Crap...and disappoint all the lefties who had their hearts and souls sold on him coming up with a high crime or misdemeanor they could at least charge him with after he left office?

You're on mushrooms or something if you think that.

And in America, if you aren't charged you're presumed innocent. Correct?

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Jun 19, 2019 03:25:09   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
There was no crime to obstruct the investigation of.

When's the last time you heard of anyone being charged with, say, "resisting arrest" when they're not charged with a crime they were being arrested for?

What's actually happening is, just like when T***p w*n the e******n, you TDSers were hit first with shock, then the longest period of denial in the history of the universe (it's still going on), and then along came the Mueller investigation. Then you were drooling for two years with anticipation, and once again, shock and denial.

Now you're feebly grasping at straws, thinking futilely that this tepid obstruction malarkey is actually going to go someplace, but the only place it's going is into the same s**t can as the collusion B.S.

You may as well get that hangdog look off your face and move on, have a little fun, maybe go bite your neighbor's pitbull or throw a few rocks at passing cars, or wh**ever you like to do for recreation, because Donald J. Trump is here to stay for another term after this one and there's not a thing you or any of your komrades can do about it.
There was no crime to obstruct the investigation o... (show quote)


Out of his mouth he's pronouncing judgment on one of his own and doesn't know it.

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Jun 19, 2019 09:00:35   #
Seth
 
BigMike wrote:
Out of his mouth he's pronouncing judgment on one of his own and doesn't know it.


I sure hope he can stand the additional shock and denial he'll be feeling when confronted by that development without flipping his lid.

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Jun 19, 2019 11:52:02   #
waltmoreno
 
badbob85037 wrote:
To believe PBS doesn't have a L*****t agenda is like believing our education system doesn't have a L*****t agenda. With all the chooses we have today on air PBS is a waste of my money and needs to end. A group of rabid Trump h**ers worked for two years digging dirt on Trump and as much of that h**e they had could find nothing to bring charges. Our economy is great. Government regulations have been cut. We have more of the money we earn. We are not importing people wanting to destroy the nation as we already have enough of ones like you here. Your h**e has blinded you to reality. So get on with impeaching him so everyone can see that h**e.
To believe PBS doesn't have a L*****t agenda is li... (show quote)


Bingo!
PBS? Come on, get real!
I'm not going to waste my time watching a program if they can't hold their own in a free marketplace.
The fact that PBS gets government support to be on the air tells me everything I need to know.
PBS = F**e news. No thanks.

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Jun 19, 2019 13:00:17   #
moldyoldy
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Daily Kos? Facts? You're kidding, right?



PBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5SYcopv6I

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Jun 19, 2019 13:02:30   #
moldyoldy
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Bingo!
PBS? Come on, get real!
I'm not going to waste my time watching a program if they can't hold their own in a free marketplace.
The fact that PBS gets government support to be on the air tells me everything I need to know.
PBS = F**e news. No thanks.


Trumps record of paying his bills is so bad that Orlando made him pay in advance for his rally.

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