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Jun 15, 2019 09:41:40   #
okie don
 
BigMike wrote:
I don't believe it. We need to get rid of the CIA.


So did JFK.

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Jun 15, 2019 10:47:11   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
okie don wrote:
Agree
Makes no sense...


Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran? Read why he made the trip to a nation with runaway inflation, primarily caused by sanctions. Do you know Japan was a major buyer of Iranian sweet?

Now put yourself in the position of Iran. They were given tons of stuff by Obama and other world leaders in an attempt to keep them from being the #1 sponsor of terrorism. By the way, that approach did not work.

The western world paid for their war efforts-now gone. They were conditioned for years- 1979- to start with, to threaten to get their way.

So Aba (Japan) shows up to attempt to get them to talk to USA (Iran sees them as a puppet to USA) and they give verbal message of no way we will talk to USA. Iran says, we will use our secret weapons to destroy the USA. And then, that night, they throw mines at Japan's tankers. Just what a child does when someone tries to stop them from doing some bad things.

Then they see one mine stuck to tanker, but did not blow up and they send a fast boat from their navy to detach it in an effort to not leave real evidence of their war efforts/intimidation tactic. Exactly the same behavior they have used to get their way since 1979.

Thus, USA goes back to work to get our allies to stop buying crude and support sanctions 100%. That is why our Energy Secretary is over seas developing the supply chains for our NG and other energy products which will make it easy for all to comply.

Thus, through sanction strength and 100% compliance to sanctions, Iran has 2 choices. Talk or suffer. No more money to wage their war efforts. Proof of that is they have pulled out of all areas except maybe one in their terrorists efforts.

Trump is the first president in modern history to utilize M.E.R.P.S tactics that are fully implemented. That is Military, Economics, Religious freedoms, Political and Social pressures to get them to comply with some basic world behaviors of being a good neighbor.

When that happens the Iranian leaders and their people will suffer. That generally leads to revolt of the suffering people if gov't does not change. That is called peace through strength with no war. However, that does not mean that war is off the table.

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Jun 15, 2019 13:07:12   #
okie don
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran? Read why he made the trip to a nation with runaway inflation, primarily caused by sanctions. Do you know Japan was a major buyer of Iranian sweet?

Now put yourself in the position of Iran. They were given tons of stuff by Obama and other world leaders in an attempt to keep them from being the #1 sponsor of terrorism. By the way, that approach did not work.

The western world paid for their war efforts-now gone. They were conditioned for years- 1979- to start with, to threaten to get their way.

So Aba (Japan) shows up to attempt to get them to talk to USA (Iran sees them as a puppet to USA) and they give verbal message of no way we will talk to USA. Iran says, we will use our secret weapons to destroy the USA. And then, that night, they throw mines at Japan's tankers. Just what a child does when someone tries to stop them from doing some bad things.

Then they see one mine stuck to tanker, but did not blow up and they send a fast boat from their navy to detach it in an effort to not leave real evidence of their war efforts/intimidation tactic. Exactly the same behavior they have used to get their way since 1979.

Thus, USA goes back to work to get our allies to stop buying crude and support sanctions 100%. That is why our Energy Secretary is over seas developing the supply chains for our NG and other energy products which will make it easy for all to comply.

Thus, through sanction strength and 100% compliance to sanctions, Iran has 2 choices. Talk or suffer. No more money to wage their war efforts. Proof of that is they have pulled out of all areas except maybe one in their terrorists efforts.

Trump is the first president in modern history to utilize M.E.R.P.S tactics that are fully implemented. That is Military, Economics, Religious freedoms, Political and Social pressures to get them to comply with some basic world behaviors of being a good neighbor.

When that happens the Iranian leaders and their people will suffer. That generally leads to revolt of the suffering people if gov't does not change. That is called peace through strength with no war. However, that does not mean that war is off the table.
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran... (show quote)


Thanks Cody

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Jun 15, 2019 14:27:14   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Anyone trying to drum up support for military action against Iran, would have incentive to attack ships and blame Iran. Let's see, there's Saudi Arabia, Israel, the US............

How did the Destroyer not see the attack taking place and pursue the attackers? The strait is only 21 miles across, our Destroyers radars can see a bird s**t within 300 miles of the ship.

BTW, oil prices were slumping and some folks predicted pump prices dropping below $2 a gallon...............until those tankers got hit.
Anyone trying to drum up support for military acti... (show quote)


YUp just another way to raise prices! We need to produce our own and stop using the terrorists!

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Jun 16, 2019 02:04:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
okie don wrote:
So did JFK.


More true now than then is what I think.

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Jun 16, 2019 02:07:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran? Read why he made the trip to a nation with runaway inflation, primarily caused by sanctions. Do you know Japan was a major buyer of Iranian sweet?

Now put yourself in the position of Iran. They were given tons of stuff by Obama and other world leaders in an attempt to keep them from being the #1 sponsor of terrorism. By the way, that approach did not work.

The western world paid for their war efforts-now gone. They were conditioned for years- 1979- to start with, to threaten to get their way.

So Aba (Japan) shows up to attempt to get them to talk to USA (Iran sees them as a puppet to USA) and they give verbal message of no way we will talk to USA. Iran says, we will use our secret weapons to destroy the USA. And then, that night, they throw mines at Japan's tankers. Just what a child does when someone tries to stop them from doing some bad things.

Then they see one mine stuck to tanker, but did not blow up and they send a fast boat from their navy to detach it in an effort to not leave real evidence of their war efforts/intimidation tactic. Exactly the same behavior they have used to get their way since 1979.

Thus, USA goes back to work to get our allies to stop buying crude and support sanctions 100%. That is why our Energy Secretary is over seas developing the supply chains for our NG and other energy products which will make it easy for all to comply.

Thus, through sanction strength and 100% compliance to sanctions, Iran has 2 choices. Talk or suffer. No more money to wage their war efforts. Proof of that is they have pulled out of all areas except maybe one in their terrorists efforts.

Trump is the first president in modern history to utilize M.E.R.P.S tactics that are fully implemented. That is Military, Economics, Religious freedoms, Political and Social pressures to get them to comply with some basic world behaviors of being a good neighbor.

When that happens the Iranian leaders and their people will suffer. That generally leads to revolt of the suffering people if gov't does not change. That is called peace through strength with no war. However, that does not mean that war is off the table.
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran... (show quote)


The Global Cabal needs a world war or fiat currency collapses...soon.

Not to mention, so many of us have become aware of them if we aren't k**led we're likely to come after them

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Jun 16, 2019 08:22:50   #
Big dog
 
BigMike wrote:
The Global Cabal needs a world war or fiat currency collapses...soon.

Not to mention, so many of us have become aware of them if we aren't k**led we're likely to come after them


That’s a very Real threat.

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Jun 16, 2019 08:54:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran? Read why he made the trip to a nation with runaway inflation, primarily caused by sanctions. Do you know Japan was a major buyer of Iranian sweet?

Now put yourself in the position of Iran. They were given tons of stuff by Obama and other world leaders in an attempt to keep them from being the #1 sponsor of terrorism. By the way, that approach did not work.

The western world paid for their war efforts-now gone. They were conditioned for years- 1979- to start with, to threaten to get their way.

So Aba (Japan) shows up to attempt to get them to talk to USA (Iran sees them as a puppet to USA) and they give verbal message of no way we will talk to USA. Iran says, we will use our secret weapons to destroy the USA. And then, that night, they throw mines at Japan's tankers. Just what a child does when someone tries to stop them from doing some bad things.

Then they see one mine stuck to tanker, but did not blow up and they send a fast boat from their navy to detach it in an effort to not leave real evidence of their war efforts/intimidation tactic. Exactly the same behavior they have used to get their way since 1979.

Thus, USA goes back to work to get our allies to stop buying crude and support sanctions 100%. That is why our Energy Secretary is over seas developing the supply chains for our NG and other energy products which will make it easy for all to comply.

Thus, through sanction strength and 100% compliance to sanctions, Iran has 2 choices. Talk or suffer. No more money to wage their war efforts. Proof of that is they have pulled out of all areas except maybe one in their terrorists efforts.

Trump is the first president in modern history to utilize M.E.R.P.S tactics that are fully implemented. That is Military, Economics, Religious freedoms, Political and Social pressures to get them to comply with some basic world behaviors of being a good neighbor.

When that happens the Iranian leaders and their people will suffer. That generally leads to revolt of the suffering people if gov't does not change. That is called peace through strength with no war. However, that does not mean that war is off the table.
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran... (show quote)


Interesting, Thank You..

Since sanctions hit Iran again it is trying to drum up other allies for trade.. Their economy tanking quickly...

Japan has plenty of money and trade.. I think it was more about that than trying to get discussions going with Trump..

As for the attack, the Navy footage of getting that bomb out seems to suggest it was Iran..???

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Jun 16, 2019 11:50:51   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lindajoy wrote:
Interesting, Thank You..

Since sanctions hit Iran again it is trying to drum up other allies for trade.. Their economy tanking quickly...

Japan has plenty of money and trade.. I think it was more about that than trying to get discussions going with Trump..

As for the attack, the Navy footage of getting that bomb out seems to suggest it was Iran..???

Like always, the video is such poor quality that it's hard to even see what the people on the boat are wearing, let alone distinguish where they might have come from. Expect war with Iran sometime in the not too distant future, regardless of where that boat came from.

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Jun 16, 2019 12:20:56   #
AHO-C
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Anyone believe Iran is actually behind damaging the ships t***sporting oil. The last report I heard is that it could have been caused by floating mines. Any county wanting Iran to be blamed could have placed a few mines.


Yea!!! My money is on Persia doing it !!! If AHO-C says it until someone comes up with a better idea...I'm the Boss!!!



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Jun 16, 2019 12:45:36   #
Big dog
 
AHO-C wrote:
Yea!!! My money is on Persia doing it !!! If AHO-C says it until someone comes up with a better idea...I'm the Boss!!!


E Gads

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Jun 16, 2019 13:06:19   #
AHO-C
 
Big dog wrote:
E Gads


Don't h**e me because I'm beautiful....there a thousand other reasons !!! I'm going to be President in 2019 even though there is no e******n and I'm not old enough .....I'm a Democrat!! No one can do anything to stop me ....even if they do it won't matter 'cause I'll just move into the White House and S#it 'til Trump leaves.....Phhhhht!!



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Jun 16, 2019 13:49:01   #
Big dog
 
AHO-C wrote:
Don't h**e me because I'm beautiful....there a thousand other reasons !!! I'm going to be President in 2019 even though there is no e******n and I'm not old enough .....I'm a Democrat!! No one can do anything to stop me ....even if they do it won't matter 'cause I'll just move into the White House and S#it 'til Trump leaves.....Phhhhht!!


That’s it, I’m moving to New Zealand.

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Jun 16, 2019 14:12:21   #
AHO-C
 
Big dog wrote:
That’s it, I’m moving to New Zealand.


What a coincidence.....Me TOO!! Where the air is pure and I'll be free to own a gun ...so long as it doesn't ,like ,shoot and I don't actually have it in my possession or nothin'....but at least I'll be able to,like, tax the air they breathe as part of my Newer More Better Greener Assault on Freedom...I mean Deal !!



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Jun 16, 2019 14:29:21   #
AHO-C
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran? Read why he made the trip to a nation with runaway inflation, primarily caused by sanctions. Do you know Japan was a major buyer of Iranian sweet?

Now put yourself in the position of Iran. They were given tons of stuff by Obama and other world leaders in an attempt to keep them from being the #1 sponsor of terrorism. By the way, that approach did not work.

The western world paid for their war efforts-now gone. They were conditioned for years- 1979- to start with, to threaten to get their way.

So Aba (Japan) shows up to attempt to get them to talk to USA (Iran sees them as a puppet to USA) and they give verbal message of no way we will talk to USA. Iran says, we will use our secret weapons to destroy the USA. And then, that night, they throw mines at Japan's tankers. Just what a child does when someone tries to stop them from doing some bad things.

Then they see one mine stuck to tanker, but did not blow up and they send a fast boat from their navy to detach it in an effort to not leave real evidence of their war efforts/intimidation tactic. Exactly the same behavior they have used to get their way since 1979.

Thus, USA goes back to work to get our allies to stop buying crude and support sanctions 100%. That is why our Energy Secretary is over seas developing the supply chains for our NG and other energy products which will make it easy for all to comply.

Thus, through sanction strength and 100% compliance to sanctions, Iran has 2 choices. Talk or suffer. No more money to wage their war efforts. Proof of that is they have pulled out of all areas except maybe one in their terrorists efforts.

Trump is the first president in modern history to utilize M.E.R.P.S tactics that are fully implemented. That is Military, Economics, Religious freedoms, Political and Social pressures to get them to comply with some basic world behaviors of being a good neighbor.

When that happens the Iranian leaders and their people will suffer. That generally leads to revolt of the suffering people if gov't does not change. That is called peace through strength with no war. However, that does not mean that war is off the table.
Do you guys know why Japanese Premier went to Iran... (show quote)


Not bad for a pooch!! Very concise and based on the facts as we know them presented in an orderly time sequence....Thank you for your effort !



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