Bcon

He even messed up there also, with his lack of facts. Remember the 57 states he visited? Only in Obamaworld.

Bcon

That reality star has more smarts and loyalty to this country than any of your hero’s, past or present. The main problem is that you and many like you are so blind to reality that you still worship a failed Obama and his failed eight years in office wreaking havoc on this country and the world. His domestic policies were only the tip of his inexperienced failures. His failures in the rest of the world caused untold deaths and brought in the worst of the Islamic footholds in the Mideast. Remember the millions in military equipment he left behind in Iraq when he pulled our troops and opened it up for his Islamic friends ,also supplying them with our abandoned arms. Yeah, he was a great president to praise. If you h**e America as much as he does.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

That is one of those questions like, "Why don't the democrats want to know how many citizens are in the country?"

moldyoldy

Cadet bone spurs can’t even remember which foot he supposedly had spurs in

Bcon

If that were true he would be a democrat.

moldyoldy

Bcon

What section of the military did Bill Clinton serve? Also, Barack Obama. John Kerry served, but it would have been better for the country if he stayed home. The three Purple Hearts he got for a couple of scratches and his turning against his fellow servicemen while testifying to congress are legendary. He also turned t*****r and violated the Logan Act when he went to Europe to talk with the North Vietnamese and again, recently when he went to talk with the Iraqis. Now, there is your typical democrat hero. You point fingers but you have to realize where the other three are pointing. Please respond with your clarifications of Clinton, Obama, and especially Kerry, who I am sure you v**ed for.


Clinton's Draft Deferrment

In the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve -- however, Clinton made every effort to avoid the draft prior to entering it.

First, Bill Clinton received education deferments while at Georgetown and Oxford (where he helped organize demonstrations against the war). Second, Clinton attempted to avoid the draft for four years by enrolling, but never joining, the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Clinton had enrolled in the ROTC hoping to avoid military service for four years, but, wanting a future in politics, had a change of heart and entered the draft.

In December 1969, safe from the draft with his high lottery number, Clinton changed his mind about joining the ROTC program and wrote a letter to the director of the ROTC program thanking him "for saving me from the draft" and regretted misleading him by not revealing the extent of his opposition to the war. The letter was leaked by the Pentagon to ABC news early in the 1992 fueled criticism of candidate Clinton's character.

Later in the 1992 campaign, it became known that Clinton's uncle had attempted to get Bill Clinton a Navy Reserve assignment during the Vietnam war. Clinton said he didn't know anything about it to the press on September 3, 1992 but a day later admitted that a former draft board member had informed him of his uncles' attempt several months before.

Clinton's Draft Deferrment

In the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve -- however, Clinton made every effort to avoid the draft prior to entering it.

First, Bill Clinton received education deferments while at Georgetown and Oxford (where he helped organize demonstrations against the war). Second, Clinton attempted to avoid the draft for four years by enrolling, but never joining, the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Clinton had enrolled in the ROTC hoping to avoid military service for four years, but, wanting a future in politics, had a change of heart and entered the draft.

In December 1969, safe from the draft with his high lottery number, Clinton changed his mind about joining the ROTC program and wrote a letter to the director of the ROTC program thanking him "for saving me from the draft" and regretted misleading him by not revealing the extent of his opposition to the war. The letter was leaked by the Pentagon to ABC news early in the 1992 fueled criticism of candidate Clinton's character.

Later in the 1992 campaign, it became known that Clinton's uncle had attempted to get Bill Clinton a Navy Reserve assignment during the Vietnam war. Clinton said he didn't know anything about it to the press on September 3, 1992 but a day later admitted that a former draft board member had informed him of his uncles' attempt several months before.

Clinton's Draft Deferrment

In the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve -- however, Clinton made every effort to avoid the draft prior to entering it.

First, Bill Clinton received education deferments while at Georgetown and Oxford (where he helped organize demonstrations against the war). Second, Clinton attempted to avoid the draft for four years by enrolling, but never joining, the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Clinton had enrolled in the ROTC hoping to avoid military service for four years, but, wanting a future in politics, had a change of heart and entered the draft.

In December 1969, safe from the draft with his high lottery number, Clinton changed his mind about joining the ROTC program and wrote a letter to the director of the ROTC program thanking him "for saving me from the draft" and regretted misleading him by not revealing the extent of his opposition to the war. The letter was leaked by the Pentagon to ABC news early in the 1992 fueled criticism of candidate Clinton's character.

Later in the 1992 campaign, it became known that Clinton's uncle had attempted to get Bill Clinton a Navy Reserve assignment during the Vietnam war. Clinton said he didn't know anything about it to the press on September 3, 1992 but a day later admitted that a former draft board member had informed him of his uncles' attempt several months before.

Bcon

[quote=Bcon]What section of the military did Bill Clinton serve? Also, Barack Obama. John Kerry served, but it would have been better for the country if he stayed home. The three Purple Hearts he got for a couple of scratches and his turning against his fellow servicemen while testifying to congress are legendary. He also turned t*****r and violated the Logan Act when he went to Europe to talk with the North Vietnamese and again, recently when he went to talk with the Iraqis. Now, there is your typical democrat hero. You point fingers but you have to realize where the other three are pointing. Please respond with your clarifications of Clinton, Obama, and especially Kerry, who I am sure you v**ed for.


Clinton's Draft Deferrment

In the autumn of 1969, Clinton entered the draft but received a high number (311) and was never called to serve -- however, Clinton made every effort to avoid the draft prior to entering it.

First, Bill Clinton received education deferments while at Georgetown and Oxford (where he helped organize demonstrations against the war). Second, Clinton attempted to avoid the draft for four years by enrolling, but never joining, the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC). Clinton had enrolled in the ROTC hoping to avoid military service for four years, but, wanting a future in politics, had a change of heart and entered the draft.

In December 1969, safe from the draft with his high lottery number, Clinton changed his mind about joining the ROTC program and wrote a letter to the director of the ROTC program thanking him "for saving me from the draft" and regretted misleading him by not revealing the extent of his opposition to the war. The letter was leaked by the Pentagon to ABC news early in the 1992 fueled criticism of candidate Clinton's character.

Later in the 1992 campaign, it became known that Clinton's uncle had attempted to get Bill Clinton a Navy Reserve assignment during the Vietnam war. Clinton said he didn't know anything about it to the press on September 3, 1992 but a day later admitted that a former draft board member had informed him of his uncles' attempt several months before.

moldyoldy

Here is an answer for you.

What is the difference between Joe Biden, who was a football player and lifeguard in high school, being given five Vietnam draft deferments for asthma and Donald Trump who was given five for bone spurs? Are they both considered draft dodgers?


Kevin Wray, Worked as a political consultant and legislative aide in Washington DC
Answered Mon · Upv**ed by Carter Moore, Degree in Political Science, former Congressional aide and Federal employee

Okay, this nonsense has to stop.
A draft dodger is someone who commits an illegal act to avoid the military draft. Specifically, you need to either refuse to cooperate or refuse to serve when called up.
Biden had student deferments. That's an actual basis under the Selective Service Act for delaying and/or deferring military service obligations. BTW he was diagnosed as having asthma in college and received a medical deferment. Your question however unfairly place his military service readiness on what he was doing at the age of 15, 16, and 17. Biden had 4 student deferments and a final deferment for medical reasons. And you will have problems with the physical requirements for joining the military if you have asthma.
Trump had multiple student deferments for the draft. Before the lottery began at the time of his 5th deferment, he obtained a questionable diagnosis for bone spurs (mostly because he produced a clearly fraudulent letter from his doctor in the 2016 campaign attesting to his health and the fact that he does not remember which foot had bone spurs.) While I question if Trump violated the Selective Service Act to avoid military service, it is still not draft dodging. It probably pissed off the guy sent to Vietnam in his place though if that person knew of his likely fraud.

EmilyD

Biden was 6 feet tall and had an athlete’s build. He played football in high school and was active in sports throughout college. He spent one summer as a lifeguard at a local pool. How can someone with Asthma do all that?

moldyoldy

Easy, my son had asthma bad he was always going to the emergency room, but as a teen it went away. You do everything until you have an attack, then you have to get treatment

By the way Biden was not part of the question, but he was included in that answer because the right will go after him next.

Bcon

You are correct. An illegal act is supposedly required. That fits Bill Clinton perfectly. He just refused to report to where he was assigned. But he got away with it. Do you think you could walk away and not be apprehended?

Bcon

By showing a f**e diagnosis. Simple answer to an easy question.

Bcon

This was put here so any times because of my error. Still, it is a great emphasis to the
T***h.

Bcon

By the way, as much as you back off now, it was your post about old bone spurs that started the whole discussion. I am glad to see you admit your error. A first.