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Jun 14, 2019 12:29:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
kemmer wrote:
Show me research stating being gay is a choice.
“Show me yours and I’ll show you mine”.


I never said that. You're presuming.

Like I said...you're yapping. Repeating what you've been told without as much as a footnote.

I don't think you have any such research to provide t***h to your claim.

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Jun 14, 2019 12:54:06   #
kemmer
 
BigMike wrote:
I never said that. You're presuming.

Like I said...you're yapping. Repeating what you've been told without as much as a footnote.

I don't think you have any such research to provide t***h to your claim.

I am proof. I knew I was “different” before I even knew what gay meant. In the 3rd grade I had a crush on my school principal. I envied the bad kids who got sent to the principal's office.

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Jun 14, 2019 14:54:06   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I admire your courage, debeda, for defending your values, and attempting to defend the unborn children who are at risk of never drawing their first breath.

It is tragic to meet such hostility today, from fellow Americans, for beliefs that a few decades ago were recognized as common sense and common decency.


debeda wrote:
That is indeed true of many gays. The fact remains that it is a religious ceremony at its core, designed for one man and one woman to create a family and the next generations. Most gays dont like religion because most religions view homosexuality as an aberration or even an a*********n. Personally, I dont care, except where children are being sexualized and "allowed to pick their g****r", when a child before puberty pretty much doesn't have a clue about all that. Also, I dont believe any American should have special rights, be they gay, black, Hispanic, Asian, women or wh**ever. We're all Americans and should be allowed the same opportunities. No more, no less. Your personal choices might dictate or limit those opportunities, like someone who chooses to be tatted up and pierced, or the woman who thinks miniskirts and low cut dresses are standard attire for all venues, or someone who dyes their hair blue and wears purple lipstick to the office. Because if we want to succeed we need to have standards, and conform to certain norms of business attire and conduct. The left is constantly talking about being offended by words, but consistently offends the average person with their deeds. For instance, despite huge efforts, in Illinois our fearless new democratic governor Pritzker and his democratic state supermajority just passed late term a******n legislation. I am sick about it. Saying that I, and the 10s of thousands of others, who worked against this obscenity are offended is an understatement of cosmic proportions.
That is indeed true of many gays. The fact remains... (show quote)

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Jun 14, 2019 15:03:32   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Neither is one's genetic make-up determined by wishful thinking, inspired by one's own personal desires.

Your genetic make-up was written in stone, i.e., eternally locked in place, on the day of your conception, the instant one cell and one sperm united to create life.

My beliefs, knowledge and personal concepts are immaterial to your genetic make-up, as are your own.


kemmer wrote:
In other words, your version of "self-determination" is limited to what you and your skewed interpretations of ancient literature demand it be.
Sorry Charlie, someday you'll wake up to fact that one's genetic makeup is not restricted to what some ancient author thought it should be.

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Jun 14, 2019 15:11:38   #
debeda
 
Zemirah wrote:
I admire your courage, debeda, for defending your values, and attempting to defend the unborn children who are at risk of never drawing their first breath.

It is tragic to meet such hostility today, from fellow Americans, for beliefs that a few decades ago were recognized as common sense and common decency.


Thank you, Zemirah, and I agree. I cant believe we refuse to protect the most innocent and defenseless among us

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Jun 15, 2019 10:25:00   #
kemmer
 
debeda wrote:
Thank you, Zemirah, and I agree. I cant believe we refuse to protect the most innocent and defenseless among us

So what do you "protectors" do when the woman you have forced to carry a fetus to full term still doesn't want or is able to care for the baby? 'Tough cookies and good luck!"

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Jun 15, 2019 12:12:54   #
debeda
 
kemmer wrote:
So what do you "protectors" do when the woman you have forced to carry a fetus to full term still doesn't want or is able to care for the baby? 'Tough cookies and good luck!"


The silly twits ARE carrying the baby to full term - then murdering them. If you defend this barbarity then you're part of the problem

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Jun 15, 2019 12:23:58   #
kemmer
 
debeda wrote:
The silly twits ARE carrying the baby to full term - then murdering them. If you defend this barbarity then you're part of the problem

Please address the question.

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Jun 15, 2019 12:49:35   #
debeda
 
kemmer wrote:
Please address the question.


The answer to the question is this. Actions have consequences. Part of growing up is learning this. IF you choose to have unprotected sex, the consequence will often be a baby. AND there are laws on the books now in most states that keep women from bearing these consequences alone, as biological fathers are legally required to support their offspring. If you dont feel that you are capable of raising or caring for a child, DON'T HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX. There are a plethora of methods to avoid pregnancy. Birth control, IUDs, condoms (not the best) etc, etc, etc. The whole a******n conversation is a BS conversation. WHY and WHO wants so much fetal, and now formed, human tissue might be the better question. I h**e to even contemplate such a thing, but what else makes sense? That today's child bearing age humans are just too stupid, lazy and irresponsible to avoid murder?
Think about this. If you were born in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s or early 70s. If you are the oldest child of your mother there's a 60% chance you would've been aborted. If you're the 2nd, it drops to 20%. If you're third, 50%. And 4th and up 70%. Think about it.

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Jun 15, 2019 21:03:42   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
kemmer wrote:
I am proof. I knew I was “different” before I even knew what gay meant. In the 3rd grade I had a crush on my school principal. I envied the bad kids who got sent to the principal's office.


"Sorry Charlie, someday you'll wake up to fact that one's genetic makeup is not restricted to what some ancient author thought it should be."

You were talking genetics, Guido.

Like I said, no proof you even researched.

Find someone who has isolated the gene and get back to me.

The Science Daily site is a good place to start.

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Jun 15, 2019 21:08:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
kemmer wrote:
Sorry, your sophistry wins no cigars. It’s the last gasp of a shrinking number of people refusing to accept the advanced knowledge we have learned about who we are, and that everybody is not genetically disposed to desire “congress” with the opposite sex, despite what ancient literature tries to portray.


"Advanced Knowledge of What We Have Learned!"

DA DA DAAA

Where did you discover this advanced knowledge?

If it makes you feel better, I don't think you know enough about what you're saying to engage in sophistry.

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Jun 16, 2019 01:00:21   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
There are a multitude of infertile couples in the United States unable to have a child of their own.

Because of a******n, it is almost impossible to find a child to adopt. No newborn in the United States would not be wanted by someone.

For decades, couples with the financial means have traveled to other countries at the expense of $30,000, $40,000, sometimes much more to adopt a child, through a "third world" government agency.

Couples that do not have such means are without hope of ever having the joy and fulfillment of being parents. There is no reason any woman in the U.S. would have to murder their child if they are unable or unwilling to raise it themselves.


kemmer wrote:
So what do you "protectors" do when the woman you have forced to carry a fetus to full term still doesn't want or is able to care for the baby? 'Tough cookies and good luck!"

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Jun 16, 2019 01:57:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Zemirah wrote:
There are a multitude of infertile couples in the United States unable to have a child of their own.

Because of a******n, it is almost impossible to find a child to adopt. No newborn in the United States would not be wanted by someone.

For decades, couples with the financial means have traveled to other countries at the expense of $30,000, $40,000, sometimes much more to adopt a child, through a "third world" government agency.

Couples that do not have such means are without hope of ever having the joy and fulfillment of being parents. There is no reason any woman in the U.S. would have to murder their child if they are unable or unwilling to raise it themselves.
There are a multitude of infertile couples in the ... (show quote)


It costs a boatload of cash to adopt your stepkids in America!

I think the system steals money from children by default.

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Jun 16, 2019 04:57:17   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Ahhh, but are they not worth it?

The "system" is stealing everything from everyone, but they can not be allowed to steal our children.



BigMike wrote:
It costs a boatload of cash to adopt your stepkids in America!

I think the system steals money from children by default.

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Jun 16, 2019 10:23:04   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
There are a multitude of infertile couples in the United States unable to have a child of their own.

Because of a******n, it is almost impossible to find a child to adopt. No newborn in the United States would not be wanted by someone.

For decades, couples with the financial means have traveled to other countries at the expense of $30,000, $40,000, sometimes much more to adopt a child, through a "third world" government agency.

Couples that do not have such means are without hope of ever having the joy and fulfillment of being parents. There is no reason any woman in the U.S. would have to murder their child if they are unable or unwilling to raise it themselves.
There are a multitude of infertile couples in the ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen my grandsons fathers sister and her husband could not conceive so they flew to Russia and adopted a little boy from Russia. It was very expensive or so I am told by my daughter who is somewhat close to her. But I have seen the boy and he is cute and now speaks English and is well adjusted.

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