Common_Sense_Matters

Yes, everybody wants to save money, nobody wants to pay the piper when we do. I suspect that we are to trim the budget and still magically have all the funding necessary to maintain every department's current funding. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

son of witless

So you are saying that the good folks at Brittanica.com got it wrong ? I tried to get as neutral a source as possible for our discussion.

https://www.britannica.com/event/2012-B******i-attacks

Common_Sense_Matters

And your point is? Nowhere in that very short summation was there any indication what triggered the violence as far back as February of that year and continuing up until and beyond the attack on our embassy there. I suspect that you are meaning that it was al-Qaeda that attacked the embassy, not Ansar al-Sharia. what part of "On the night of September 11, about 150 Islamic militants associated with an al-Qaeda >>>affiliate<<< stormed the compound and set fire to the main building." are you having trouble with?

I am sorry but you have once again failed to prove your point.

Hug

Facts can be made out of opinions. What you believe is fact to you. If you believe the moon is purple and green, then that is fact to you.

Common_Sense_Matters

Clearly based on how many "conservatives" believe the crap from the ERWNJ web sites they depend on.



Edit: And those are "facts" that are based on opinions, not actual facts, actual facts aren't subjective.

son of witless

From the Britannica article, " But no evidence of similar protests in B******i could be substantiated, and other evidence emerged, suggesting that the attacks were a premeditated act by the al-Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia. "

I fail to see why you keep towing the party line about this video. The attack was a well planned affair, definitely not a spontaneous eruption of passion like Hillary and the rest of Obama's STOOGES claimed.

To believe what you believe, one has to think that the street people of B******i never go out on their town with out their rocket propelled grenades. Hey maybe they do. I will look it in the B******i travel guide.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

What? You mean they don't carry mortars in their hip pockets when they go out to walk the dog?

Hug

The moon is purple and green. Prove to me that the moon is not purple and green.

son of witless

I hear it is a dangerous neighborhood. You may as well bring an RPG to a knife fight.

Hug

Archie, do you still have Buddy?

Common_Sense_Matters

And now you claim there was no violence leading up to the attack? so why then did other countries pull their diplomats, which many did, if everything was sunny? Even YOU admitted to the fact that other countries pulled their diplomats due to the violence in a previous post of yours.



Make up your mind, do you want to admit that there WAS violence leading up to the events or do you want to try to deny it? You can't have it both ways, there either was (which there was) violence leading up to the attack and had been since I believe February, or there wasn't, this isn't Schrodinger's cat here. There were MANY witnesses to the r**ts and protests leading up to the attack, what, where they paid witnesses?



Troll much? You have proven yourself to be a liar by contradicting your own post, that takes a special kind of stupid.




Edit: Any r**ts that may have occurred prior to July 2012 would have had to have had other causes of which there were several.

Cuda2020

You’ve strayed from reality to delusional and not knowing how to tell the difference .

Hug

Could be, but there is no way to change one's mind when they think something is true when in reality it is false.

Common_Sense_Matters

Correct, you can only present them with the facts and hope they consider it and put forth an honest attempt to verify the validity of those facts and perhaps one day they will come to realize that they were living in an alternate reality devoid of facts. I know that you were trying to subtly imply that it isn't you that is out of touch with reality, but who knows, maybe you will make an honest attempt to confirm that it isn't you that is out of touch with reality and IF you delve deep enough and find ACTUAL facts to confirm your beliefs... Who knows, maybe you can be redeemed.

I don't mean that you need to jump in and look to what you consider "liberal sources" just that you delve deep enough to discover the ACTUAL facts, not remain stuck on far right medias sources, try government sources, third party non-biased sources and the like. You mayt just come to the realization that many of the "f**e news" sources aren't really "f**e news".

son of witless

son of witless wrote:
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And now you claim there was no violence leading up to the attack? so why then did other countries pull their diplomats, which many did, if everything was sunny? Even YOU admitted to the fact that other countries pulled their diplomats due to the violence in a previous post of yours.

son of witless wrote:
WTF is the relevance of this ? br br The point i... (show quote)


Make up your mind, do you want to admit that there WAS violence leading up to the events or do you want to try to deny it? You can't have it both ways, there either was (which there was) violence leading up to the attack and had been since I believe February, or there wasn't, this isn't Schrodinger's cat here. There were MANY witnesses to the r**ts and protests leading up to the attack, what, where they paid witnesses?



Troll much? You have proven yourself to be a liar by contradicting your own post, that takes a special kind of stupid.




Edit: Any r**ts that may have occurred prior to July 2012 would have had to have had other causes of which there were several.

Wikipedia wrote:
Background br Main article: Innocence of Muslims b... (show quote)
Common_Sense_Matters

You are totally misrepresenting everything I said. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps even though I p***e myself on my clarity, perhaps I have failed you. Somehow you did not understand what I said. I feel really bad about that. I like to believe I can reach the most muddle infused L*****t. Wait you are not a l*****t, are you? You are something in the middle. Okay you are not a l*****t, even though you feel Trump's policies are bad, even though you bear him no malice.

" And now you claim there was no violence leading up to the attack? so why then did other countries pull their diplomats, which many did, if everything was sunny? Even YOU admitted to the fact that other countries pulled their diplomats due to the violence in a previous post of yours. "

Where did I claim that ? My entire point was the exact opposite of that. My entire point was that there was previous violence and therefore Obama and Hillary acted recklessly in not upgrading security enough or evacuating the Americans from B******i.

" Troll much? You have proven yourself to be a liar by contradicting your own post, that takes a special kind of stupid. "

Somewhere there is a disconnect between the words I wrote, and the words of mine that entered your brain. I have no idea WTF you are talking about.