Big dog wrote:
Sorry, I don’t read anything Kevyn posts
Add lonedirtbag aka lonewolf to that list.
Blade_Runner wrote:
The FISC does not operate the same as a criminal court. The FISC does not issue arrest or search warrants. FISC exists solely to issue a warrant to conduct surveillance on an American citizen.
. . . . It’s not like the FBI can just decide to stop by a FISC to get a FISA warrant after going through the McDonald’s drive-thru for lunch. To even begin the process leading to a FISA, the FBI has to follow several steps outlined in the Attorney General Guidelines, which govern FBI investigations. First, the FBI has to conduct a “threat assessment” in order to establish grounds for even opening an investigation on potential FISA subjects. If a threat exists, the FBI must then formally open an investigation into possible foreign intelligence activity.
The FBI might determine that, if the U.S. persons have access to classified information or could otherwise be “developed” for intelligence purposes by a foreign spy service, a significant enough threat exists to open an investigation – this would require at least one layer of approval within the FBI, and possibly more if the investigation concerns high-profile individuals.
The case still wouldn’t be FISA bound. FISA warrant investigations can’t be opened “solely on the basis of First Amendment activities,” so mere fraternization, even with sketchy people, wouldn’t be enough. The FBI would have to gather evidence to support a the claim that the U.S. target was knowingly working on behalf of a foreign entity. This could include information gathered from other methods like human sources, physical surveillance, bank t***sactions or even documents found in the target’s trash. This takes some time, and, when enough evidence had been accumulated, would be outlined in an affidavit and application stating the grounds for the FISA warrant. The completed FISA application would go up for approval through the FBI chain of command, including a Supervisor, the Chief Division Counsel (the highest lawyer within that FBI field office), and finally, the Special Agent in Charge of the field office, before making its way to FBI Headquarters to get approval by (at least) the Unit-level Supervisor there. If you’re exhausted already, hang on: There’s more.
The FISA application then travels to the Justice Department where attorneys from the National Security Division comb through the application to verify all the assertions made in it. Known as “Woods procedures” after Michael J. Woods, the FBI Special Agent attorney who developed this layer of approval, DOJ verifies the accuracy of every fact stated in the application. If anything looks unsubstantiated, the application is sent back to the FBI to provide additional evidentiary support – this game of bureaucratic chutes and ladders continues until DOJ is satisfied that the facts in the FISA application can both be corroborated and meet the legal standards for the court. After getting sign-off from a senior DOJ official (finally!), a lawyer from DOJ takes the FISA application before the FISC, comprised of eleven federal district judges who sit on the court on a rotating basis. The FISC reviews the application in secret, and decides whether to approve the warrant.Comey’s confession: dossier not verified before, or after, FISA warrantThe FISC does not operate the same as a criminal c... (
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Thanks for this education of the FISC and FISA warrant procedures.
Big dog wrote:
Sorry, I don’t read anything Kevyn posts
I try not to as well, but sometimes... It gives me something to laugh at.
Larry the Legend wrote:
I try not to as well, but sometimes... It gives me something to laugh at.
LARRY, weren’t you brought up not to laugh at those poor, mentally challenged people in society? You know, those they used to refer to as r****ded but now we can’t call them that because it’s politically incorrect.
Airforceone wrote:
Trump for 3 months has taken to the bully pulpit and keeps telling the American people that finally the Muellar investigation is over and its case closed I have been 100% exonerated it’s time to move on.
But why is he still attacking Muellar why is he still attacking Mueller's team of investigators, why is he blocking Subpoenas why is he refusing to turn over documents.
After all he has been exonerated. He should be putting Muellar on Rushmore
Because the libbies just won't let it go. All we heard for over 2 years was Russia, Russia, Russia. Apparently for the NEXT 2 years we'll hear collusion, collusion, collusion. Booooooooooring
Airforceone wrote:
Trump for 3 months has taken to the bully pulpit and keeps telling the American people that finally the Muellar investigation is over and its case closed I have been 100% exonerated it’s time to move on.
But why is he still attacking Muellar why is he still attacking Mueller's team of investigators, why is he blocking Subpoenas why is he refusing to turn over documents.
After all he has been exonerated. He should be putting Muellar on Rushmore
Because it is a waste of one of the most precious resources we have......time. With Congress being gone so much and so-o-o many things to be dealt with, after the results of the Mueller report, time would be better spent on things the American people truly care about. William Barr is investigating how this whole thing was started in the first place. Taxpayers paid so much for the Mueller report, I for one will accept its bottom line. Why won't Democrats? It has been said that there is no such thing as reality, only perception that varies from perceiver to perceiver. The perceivers of those parts of the Mueller report up for interpretation are perceived by Democrats through "Get Trump" colored glasses. That's how they perceive anything and everything concerning the President. This is not the first time this debacle has occurred, and it probably won't be the last. Both parties have allowed themselves to become embroiled in endless investigations about one thing or another. There is a big difference between oversight and harassment.
What a shame! I refer all readers of this to the book by Sidney Powell, "Right to Lie". A real eye opener, and frightening in what it reveals about politics and the justice system.
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
The document that was provided as evidence of probable cause was a manufactured lie. Paid for by the Clinton Campaign, better known as the Arkansas Mafia, and the DNC, better known as the Democrat C*******t Party.
Boy you tabbed that right!
Oops! The book to which I was referring above is "License to Lie".
JoyV wrote:
They won't conjure up any evidence that would hold up in court. But in any case, Trump would never be so unAmerican as to contemplate stealing Airforce One. Nor could he if he wanted to. Military personnel are well trained in only obeying LEGAL orders.
Why would he steal that jalopy? He has his own plane with a gold crapper!
Big dog wrote:
LARRY, weren’t you brought up not to laugh at those poor, mentally challenged people in society? You know, those they used to refer to as r****ded but now we can’t call them that because it’s politically incorrect.
Sure was. It's a good thing my Mom isn't here to see it or she just might send me to my room to wait 'til Dad gets home. Fortunately for me, she has no use for this new-fangled 'internets' thing, so I can point and laugh to my heart's content. And where little Kevvy's concerned, there's no shortage of laughing materiel.
Larry the Legend wrote:
Sure was. It's a good thing my Mom isn't here to see it or she just might send me to my room to wait 'til Dad gets home. Fortunately for me, she has no use for this new-fangled 'internets' thing, so I can point and laugh to my heart's content. And where little Kevvy's concerned, there's no shortage of laughing materiel.
I suppose you do have a point there.
Airforceone wrote:
Trump for 3 months has taken to the bully pulpit and keeps telling the American people that finally the Muellar investigation is over and its case closed I have been 100% exonerated it’s time to move on.
But why is he still attacking Muellar why is he still attacking Mueller's team of investigators, why is he blocking Subpoenas why is he refusing to turn over documents.
After all he has been exonerated. He should be putting Muellar on Rushmore
Because the "I***T", Libtards, won't let it lie! Poor Hillary....{ she screwed herself out of the Presidency}....Her own track record, of the "Bonnie & CLyde", of modern day politics, & the Demoncrat Party, of Corruption, greed, & avarice.....Russians, just put their feet up, leaned back, with their hands behind their heads, & smilingly, waited for Hillary to drown herself in her own ignorance.....Conservatives, & Trump, ca';t help it that The FBI, CIA, Justice Dept, & DNC, were complicit in the attempted political assassination of our Illustrious President!.....{ DUH!}
The Libtards, are just trying to strettttttch this out until 2020, & marry the Watergate investigation...{ What a stretch}....to this Libtard debacle....."fuhgeddaboutit"......Let's do the work of the people, & get on with our lives! { WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERZS}!
They keep trying to ride a dead horse.
You really cannot be that stupid. The Mueller report was intentional vague so the stupid Libs would keep the case on the lib news. He should ignore the House because two year, millions of dollars, millions of document and hundreds of testimonies have already taken place. We have six more years of the house bs while they do nothing to close the border.
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