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Jun 13, 2019 15:03:21   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Bcon wrote:
Quite an interesting article. Very well presented. The whole gist of everything that you show pertains to conservatives and Trump in particular, is however, shown to be the traits of both parties and other fringe parties, and most politicians in general. To put yourself up in front of the public and ask to be considered for any office, is in itself a form of narcissism. You have to really think highly of yourself, and what politician doesn’t? In my humble opinion, your article describes American politics in general.
Quite an interesting article. Very well presented.... (show quote)


I certainly wouldn't want to do it, who knows how many skeletons reside in my closet.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:04:15   #
Bcon
 
whitnebrat wrote:
If you can dispute anything of what I have said, I'll be happy to grovel. Until then, I won't dignify your response with any comment whatsoever.


The statement you know I am right can be disputed.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:09:56   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
slatten49 wrote:
With respect to CD (Kyle) and all other OPP friends who are supporters of President Trump, I find little to disagree with here, Whitnebrat. Kudos for telling it as you see it However, those who disagree with another's assessment(s) are certainly entitled to do so, and they do on virtually every page of this forum.

After all, OPP is a forum for political discourse and exchanges of varying opinions & viewpoints.
With respect to CD (Kyle) and all other OPP friend... (show quote)


Well stated by both you and whitnebrat.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:12:19   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Bcon wrote:
The statement you know I am right can be disputed.


For that statement to be incorrect, another statement within his comment must also be incorrect. Care to point out what other statement within that comment you find disagreement with?

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Jun 13, 2019 15:17:42   #
Bcon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
For that statement to be incorrect, another statement within his comment must also be incorrect. Care to point out what other statement within that comment you find disagreement with?


That isn’t the point. You can’t tell if someone knows you are right, even if you are. It is a case of semantics.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:27:26   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Bcon wrote:
That isn’t the point. You can’t tell if someone knows you are right, even if you are. It is a case of semantics.


In some cases you can. When there is no logical way to dispute a statement then if everyone truly considers the points, they will have no choice but to reach the same conclusion. The problem with MOST statements is that there are too many variables to consider that can change the logical conclusions, such as what set of "facts" do you truly believe to be true. Facts are facts but "facts" are subjective. All too often we hear different "facts" from different sources and we have to ferret out which ones are truly facts and that is where different conclusions can be reached. Some things in life, when looked upon objectively, they will ALWAYS lead to the same conclusions.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:31:13   #
moldyoldy
 
Bcon wrote:
How about a Russian employee like Hillary who accepted millions for the Clinton money laundering foundation fo supplying uranium to them. You backed her and never worried about Russian ties. You want it both ways, but it doesn’t work that way.


I have shown you how utterly stupid that comment is several times. I wont waste my time again.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:37:26   #
Bcon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
In some cases you can. When there is no logical way to dispute a statement then if everyone truly considers the points, they will have no choice but to reach the same conclusion. The problem with MOST statements is that there are too many variables to consider that can change the logical conclusions, such as what set of "facts" do you truly believe to be true. Facts are facts but "facts" are subjective. All too often we hear different "facts" from different sources and we have to ferret out which ones are truly facts and that is where different conclusions can be reached. Some things in life, when looked upon objectively, they will ALWAYS lead to the same conclusions.
In some cases you can. When there is no logical wa... (show quote)


What you say is true, but on this forum, there is a lot of personal held beliefs that no one is going to change. You can offer all the true facts that are available, and some will just fluff them off because they don’t want to alter their beliefs. I believe most of us do that at times.

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Jun 13, 2019 15:55:52   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Bcon wrote:
What you say is true, but on this forum, there is a lot of personal held beliefs that no one is going to change. You can offer all the true facts that are available, and some will just fluff them off because they don’t want to alter their beliefs. I believe most of us do that at times.

Thank you... you have just made my point for me very effectively.

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Jun 13, 2019 16:01:26   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Bcon wrote:
What you say is true, but on this forum, there is a lot of personal held beliefs that no one is going to change. You can offer all the true facts that are available, and some will just fluff them off because they don’t want to alter their beliefs. I believe most of us do that at times.


This is true. A sad fact but very true.

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Jun 13, 2019 16:28:53   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Thank you... you have just made my point for me very effectively.


I think you just realized the point was not yours but his.

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Jun 13, 2019 16:38:57   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
bilordinary wrote:
I think you just realized the point was not yours but his.

Either way, it's true. Doesn't matter whose point it was.

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Jun 13, 2019 16:43:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The following is by Florida writer Adam-Troy Castro
An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"
The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on s**mming poor people, you thought "Fine."
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."
That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"
That you have watched the parade of neo-N**is and w***e s*********ts with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright N**is, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his e*******l win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."
That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American v**er, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2019, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.
The following is by Florida writer Adam-Troy Castr... (show quote)


But then; the Demons offered the HildaBeast to make the choice easy. They shot themselves in both feet.

Why DID Hillary lose the e******n. That's a tough one.

I’m still trying to figure out how she lost.
I did manage to come up with a few theories:

Was it rigging the Democratic Primary?
Was it the Russian Uranium Deal?
Was it Wikileaks?
Was it Podesta?
Was it funding “opposition research” from the Russians?
Was it Comey?
Was it having a sexual predator as a husband?
Was it Huma Abedin’s sexual predator husband Anthony Weiner?
Was it because the Clinton Foundation ripped off Haiti?
Was it subpoena violations?
Was it the congressional testimony lies?
Was it the corrupt Clinton Foundation?
Was it the B******i butchering?
Was it pay for play?
Was it being recorded laughing because she got a child rapist off when she was an attorney?
Was it the Travel Gate scandal?
Was it the Whitewater scandal?
Was it the Cattle Gate scandal?
Was it the Trooper Gate scandal?
OR....
Was it the the $15 million for Chelsea’s apartment bought with foundation money?
Or her husband’s interference with Loretta Lynch & the investigation?
Or having debate questions stolen & given to her?
Or her own secret server in her house?
Or deleting 30,000 emails?
Or having cell phones destroyed with hammers?
Was it the Seth Rich murder?
Was it the Vince Foster murder?
Was it the Gennifer Flowers assault & settlement?
Was it the $800,000 Paula Jones settlement?
Was it calling half the United States deplorable?
Was it the underhanded treatment of Bernie Sanders?
Was it Bill’s impeachment?
Was it the lie about being under sniper fire in Bosnia?
Was it the $10 million she took for the pardon of Marc Rich?
Or the $6 BILLION she “lost” when in charge of the State Dept.?
Or because she is a h**eful, lying, power hungry, overly ambitious, greedy, nasty person?
Gee I just can’t seem to put my finger on it...

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Jun 13, 2019 16:48:42   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
eagleye13 wrote:
But then; the Demons offered the HildaBeast to make the choice easy. They shot themselves in both feet.

Why DID Hillary lose the e******n. That's a tough one.

I’m still trying to figure out how she lost.
I did manage to come up with a few theories:

Was it rigging the Democratic Primary?
Was it the Russian Uranium Deal?
Was it Wikileaks?
Was it Podesta?
Was it funding “opposition research” from the Russians?
Was it Comey?
Was it having a sexual predator as a husband?
Was it Huma Abedin’s sexual predator husband Anthony Weiner?
Was it because the Clinton Foundation ripped off Haiti?
Was it subpoena violations?
Was it the congressional testimony lies?
Was it the corrupt Clinton Foundation?
Was it the B******i butchering?
Was it pay for play?
Was it being recorded laughing because she got a child rapist off when she was an attorney?
Was it the Travel Gate scandal?
Was it the Whitewater scandal?
Was it the Cattle Gate scandal?
Was it the Trooper Gate scandal?
OR....
Was it the the $15 million for Chelsea’s apartment bought with foundation money?
Or her husband’s interference with Loretta Lynch & the investigation?
Or having debate questions stolen & given to her?
Or her own secret server in her house?
Or deleting 30,000 emails?
Or having cell phones destroyed with hammers?
Was it the Seth Rich murder?
Was it the Vince Foster murder?
Was it the Gennifer Flowers assault & settlement?
Was it the $800,000 Paula Jones settlement?
Was it calling half the United States deplorable?
Was it the underhanded treatment of Bernie Sanders?
Was it Bill’s impeachment?
Was it the lie about being under sniper fire in Bosnia?
Was it the $10 million she took for the pardon of Marc Rich?
Or the $6 BILLION she “lost” when in charge of the State Dept.?
Or because she is a h**eful, lying, power hungry, overly ambitious, greedy, nasty person?
Gee I just can’t seem to put my finger on it...
But then; the Demons offered the HildaBeast to mak... (show quote)


That's only what we know about!

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Jun 13, 2019 17:10:07   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I have shown you how utterly stupid that comment is several times. I wont waste my time again.


What is most stupid is to lie and say that Hillary had nothing to do with a foreigner inventing a dossier on Donald Trump.

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