moldyoldy

Eight of the thirteen cases were actually left over Bush cases, not things initiated by Obama

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Bush and Obama..two peas in a pod.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

<-------- They went that'away ------->
There's never gonna be agreement between Trumpies and the rest of the nation. They've drunk the Koolade and are now addicted. Treating this addiction will take at least twelve years of even moderately progressive administrations. There is no known v*****e, short of accepting reality, which once infected, is relatively useless. Actually, though, there's probably no treatment. Once infected, the Trump Bubble disease is usually lifelong, and has no known remedy short of economic disaster that cannot be blamed on a Democrat. This disease can be infectious if exposed in a campaign rally with the Pumpkin-fuehrer in attendance, and while vehement, is usually not violent unless the theft of a MAGA hat invokes retribution by the owner. It is almost impossible to quarantine, due to its virulent nature and the infestations at Fox News and the Internet (Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson in particular). The only way to prevent infection is to think for yourself and apply rationality to what you hear and see ... and evaluate the source for t***hfulness. Stay frosty ...

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Seems you think mostly for yourself.

Rose42

When you call someone libtard, democrap, Trumpie or anything else it reflects more poorly on you than it does them. Always.

The post reminds me of the alt right and their chatter about Obama. Its no different though you may think it is.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

But what gets to the Supreme Court equates to wins ... He hasn’t had enough time yet, lets see what it is after 8 years..

Also other president have also had shut downs at the state federal level too..Nothing new about that..What President don’t have reversed are Executive Orders, which is in itself interesting..Most likely because EOs aren’t law..

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Hi Brat...

I actually find this post somewhat insulting...
I have never knownyou to generalize so virulently...

I consider myself to be neither delusional nor angry... I have my reasons for supporting Trump's platforms and am rather satisfied with the way he has kept to them....

Not one hundred percent satisfied, but enough that I am happy to continue my support...

And, while I don't care for Jones or Hannity, I do enjoy my Tucker time... Usually Saturday or Sunday when it is raining... I like his style and we align on most issues... Which isn't to say that I don't get a good chuckle when he meets his match... And unlike most opinion pieces he handles himself with grace when bettered...

I hope you are well...
It is pouring on and off here..
But I start holidays tomorrow...

Stay strong and play nice...

Your friend, Kyle

Common_Sense_Matters

Interesting attempt at rebuttal, the first link to prove your point is to a conservative tabloid that printed an article trying to refute the claim that conservatives are the psychotic ones and claiming that liberals are actually the psychotic party basing that assertion on a paper they failed to link to. They linked to the site the paper should be published on but not the actual paper. I did however find the paper on my own, just not on the website cited as it wasn't located there but on another site held by the site holder. While they did admit to an error in their original paper, they stated [b]"The error is important for descriptive purposes, but the main thesis of the paper, analyses, findings and theoretical contribution remain unchanged."[/p]. What that means is that their original findings remained intact despite their error, contrary to what the NY Post attempted to claim.

link being refuted: https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/

Refuted link links to: https://ajps.org (offered to those that want to see where the NYP article linked to)

Link to the retraction NYP tried to cite incorrectly: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajps.12216


I found the "MyNew24" to be even more backward though not surprisingly as it was an opinion piece written by someone that was obviously a very right wing conservative that has serious issues with liberals. Let's look at some interesting portions of this article.

"Doctor Adam Savage, a well-known radio commentator syndicated to 350 radio stations in the USA, actually wrote a book in 2005 called “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”. He is also the author of numerous other titles dealing with psychological disorders. He identified certain instances that support his prognosis and which have in the interim been proven correct by the Occupy movement and the hysterics of the Democrats during last year’s P**********l e******n in the USA not to mention the antics of Femen and perpetually stupid groupings such as Pussy R**t (I wonder if they really had to debase themselves to get their message across)

• Expecting constant praise and admiration

• Being overly jealous of others’ achievements

• Expecting (no demanding) that others follow ideological plans

• Setting unrealistic goals

• A sense of entitlement

• Trouble maintaining healthy relationships

All of these symptoms seem to define an individual who is unable to express their frustration in a rational manner – like liberals do. The Mayo Clinic stated it best: “In order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.”

In his book Doctor Savage ultimately identifies Narcissistic Personality Disorder as the cause of progressive liberalism."

How many of these supposedly "liberal" traits do we know for sure decsribe conservatives more accurately? Why don't we use Trump as test subject as he is well known and we have many examples of his behavior to take into consideration.

• Expecting constant praise and admiration

Have we seen Trump exhibiting this trait? Nearly EVERY time we have seen him in public he has shown this trait in spades.

• Being overly jealous of others’ achievements

With all the times that he insists on comparing himself with Obama and Trump's whole obsession with Obama overall, I would say this one is a lock.

• Expecting (no demanding) that others follow ideological plans

We have seen what happens with administration officials that disagree with Trump, next.

• Setting unrealistic goals

"We will build a big, beautiful wall and Mexico will pay for it". That and expecting to give tax breaks AND wipe out national debt entirely in let's say 2 terms, does anybody see that as an achievable goal?

• A sense of entitlement

Trump has always exhibited a massive sense of entitlement and for the most part, he has always gotten his way throughout life so was it justifiable? Perhaps, but now that he is president and dealing with foreign leaders and they AREN'T giving him his way...

• Trouble maintaining healthy relationships

Is Trump in his first marriage?, Okay, maybe his second marriage? Okay, okay, his third marriage, that doesn't really mean much does it? At least he has had stability in his administration and those he appoints, they stick around and remain loyal right?

Narcissism, would anybody accuse Trump of narcissism? Only those that know Trump.



How about another interesting segment of that article?

"Enter the Dunning-Kruger effect. “Dunning and Kruger noted earlier studies suggesting that ignorance of standards of performance is behind a great deal of incompetence. This pattern was seen in studies of sk**ls as diverse as reading comprehension, operating a motor vehicle, and playing chess or tennis.

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given sk**l, incompetent people will:

• tend to overestimate their own level of sk**l;

• fail to recognize genuine sk**l in others;

• fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;

• recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of sk**l, if they are exposed to training for that sk**l."

I look at that and see Trump in a nutshell. He is ALWAYS overestimating his own "level of sk**l", he frequently fails to recognize genuine sk**l in others and he NEVER recognizes the extremity of his own inadequacy. The only part that doesn't seem to suit Trump is the last part, "recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of sk**l, if they are exposed to training for that sk**l.". I seriously doubt he EVER recognizes or acknowledges any lack of sk**l he has.

And another interesting part of this article.

"It is also my contention that progressive liberalism exhibits many of the traits of Sociopathic Personality Disorder as outlined below and identified by the FBI Behavioural Analysis Unit:

· Glibness and Superficial Charm

· Manipulative and Conning

· Grandiose Sense of Self - Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

· Pathological Lying - Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be t***hful on a consistent basis.

· Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt - A deep-seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

· Shallow Emotions - Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person.

· Need for Stimulation - Promiscuity and gambling are common.

· Callousness/Lack of Empathy - Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

· Poor Behavioural Controls/Impulsive Nature -Rage and abuse, alternating a belief that they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no concern for their impact on others.

· Irresponsibility/Unreliability - Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

· Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour – Promiscuity and sexual acting out of all sorts.

· Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility - Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily when confronted.

· Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them - (and I’m sure I’ll receive a lot of contempt for this piece)

· Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them (Dunning-Kruger)

· Authoritarian – does not tolerate any opinions or points of view that differs from theirs. Total control at all times

· Secretive – the use of false Facebook profiles, anonymous campaigns and secret groups come to mind

· Paranoid – everyone that does not conform to his or her world view must be a member of some secret right wing grouping intent on subjugating the rest of the world into some w***e s*********t Utopia.

· Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behaviour will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

· Conventional appearance – yes they walk among us, look like us, talk like us

· Goal of ens***ement (of their victim(s))

· Exercises despotic control over every aspect of societal life

· Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim – or in this case a willing victim mentality

· Extreme narcissism and grandiose

· May state readily that their goal is to rule the world – anyone familiar with George Soros and his history?"

Anybody with their eyes and minds open can relate this set with Trump, except the last point as Trump would never openly state that as it is socially unacceptable to state that you intend to "rule the world", or would he... Of course you must replace "right wing" with "left wing" in the "paranoid" point. Several of those points bring Trump's favorite phrase to come to mind, "F**e news", what he would say if someone were to point out his pathological lying or any of his many flaws.


All in all, that entire article seems to be speaking on Trump's many flaws so either it is all projection and those traits actually belong to conservatives, NOT liberals (this is the likely case), or Donald Trump is a closet liberal (not so likely).

This was all from an article here: https://m.news24.com/MyNews24/Liberalism-True-Political-Ideology-or-Mental-Disorder-20131022

The final article you linked, it is a push. It claims that Liberals are just as intolerant as conservatives when faced with opposing views. I have seen much evidence to the contrary but I have also seen much evidence to support that hypothesis as well. I will have to be more observant in the future and watch for signs that one is more intolerant than the other, vice versa or that is truly it equal. It is an eye opener.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114

Morgan

It isn't moot due to the fact the opinion piece is slanted in the attempts to discredit Obama which you are trying to do also, so I will repeat myself also...

After the Reagan administration, which won 75 percent of the time. Each succeeding president did worse than the last. President George Bush won 70 percent of his cases, President Bill Clinton 63 percent and President George W. Bush 60 percent, this according to the same study. Obama subjected to a right-leaning Supreme court it is no wonder he would only win 50% especially on the issues he was fighting for.

emarine

[quote=Common_Sense_Matters]Interesting attempt at rebuttal, the first link to prove your point is to a conservative tabloid that printed an article trying to refute the claim that conservatives are the psychotic ones and claiming that liberals are actually the psychotic party basing that assertion on a paper they failed to link to. They linked to the site the paper should be published on but not the actual paper. I did however find the paper on my own, just not on the website cited as it wasn't located there but on another site held by the site holder. While they did admit to an error in their original paper, they stated [b]"The error is important for descriptive purposes, but the main thesis of the paper, analyses, findings and theoretical contribution remain unchanged."[/p]. What that means is that their original findings remained intact despite their error, contrary to what the NY Post attempted to claim.

link being refuted: https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits/

Refuted link links to: https://ajps.org (offered to those that want to see where the NYP article linked to)

Link to the retraction NYP tried to cite incorrectly: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajps.12216


I found the "MyNew24" to be even more backward though not surprisingly as it was an opinion piece written by someone that was obviously a very right wing conservative that has serious issues with liberals. Let's look at some interesting portions of this article.

"Doctor Adam Savage, a well-known radio commentator syndicated to 350 radio stations in the USA, actually wrote a book in 2005 called “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder”. He is also the author of numerous other titles dealing with psychological disorders. He identified certain instances that support his prognosis and which have in the interim been proven correct by the Occupy movement and the hysterics of the Democrats during last year’s P**********l e******n in the USA not to mention the antics of Femen and perpetually stupid groupings such as Pussy R**t (I wonder if they really had to debase themselves to get their message across)

• Expecting constant praise and admiration

• Being overly jealous of others’ achievements

• Expecting (no demanding) that others follow ideological plans

• Setting unrealistic goals

• A sense of entitlement

• Trouble maintaining healthy relationships

All of these symptoms seem to define an individual who is unable to express their frustration in a rational manner – like liberals do. The Mayo Clinic stated it best: “In order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.”

In his book Doctor Savage ultimately identifies Narcissistic Personality Disorder as the cause of progressive liberalism."

How many of these supposedly "liberal" traits do we know for sure decsribe conservatives more accurately? Why don't we use Trump as test subject as he is well known and we have many examples of his behavior to take into consideration.

• Expecting constant praise and admiration

Have we seen Trump exhibiting this trait? Nearly EVERY time we have seen him in public he has shown this trait in spades.

• Being overly jealous of others’ achievements

With all the times that he insists on comparing himself with Obama and Trump's whole obsession with Obama overall, I would say this one is a lock.

• Expecting (no demanding) that others follow ideological plans

We have seen what happens with administration officials that disagree with Trump, next.

• Setting unrealistic goals

"We will build a big, beautiful wall and Mexico will pay for it". That and expecting to give tax breaks AND wipe out national debt entirely in let's say 2 terms, does anybody see that as an achievable goal?

• A sense of entitlement

Trump has always exhibited a massive sense of entitlement and for the most part, he has always gotten his way throughout life so was it justifiable? Perhaps, but now that he is president and dealing with foreign leaders and they AREN'T giving him his way...

• Trouble maintaining healthy relationships

Is Trump in his first marriage?, Okay, maybe his second marriage? Okay, okay, his third marriage, that doesn't really mean much does it? At least he has had stability in his administration and those he appoints, they stick around and remain loyal right?

Narcissism, would anybody accuse Trump of narcissism? Only those that know Trump.



How about another interesting segment of that article?

"Enter the Dunning-Kruger effect. “Dunning and Kruger noted earlier studies suggesting that ignorance of standards of performance is behind a great deal of incompetence. This pattern was seen in studies of sk**ls as diverse as reading comprehension, operating a motor vehicle, and playing chess or tennis.

Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given sk**l, incompetent people will:

• tend to overestimate their own level of sk**l;

• fail to recognize genuine sk**l in others;

• fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;

• recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of sk**l, if they are exposed to training for that sk**l."

I look at that and see Trump in a nutshell. He is ALWAYS overestimating his own "level of sk**l", he frequently fails to recognize genuine sk**l in others and he NEVER recognizes the extremity of his own inadequacy. The only part that doesn't seem to suit Trump is the last part, "recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of sk**l, if they are exposed to training for that sk**l.". I seriously doubt he EVER recognizes or acknowledges any lack of sk**l he has.

And another interesting part of this article.

"It is also my contention that progressive liberalism exhibits many of the traits of Sociopathic Personality Disorder as outlined below and identified by the FBI Behavioural Analysis Unit:

· Glibness and Superficial Charm

· Manipulative and Conning

· Grandiose Sense of Self - Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

· Pathological Lying - Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be t***hful on a consistent basis.

· Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt - A deep-seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

· Shallow Emotions - Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person.

· Need for Stimulation - Promiscuity and gambling are common.

· Callousness/Lack of Empathy - Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

· Poor Behavioural Controls/Impulsive Nature -Rage and abuse, alternating a belief that they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no concern for their impact on others.

· Irresponsibility/Unreliability - Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

· Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour – Promiscuity and sexual acting out of all sorts.

· Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility - Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily when confronted.

· Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them - (and I’m sure I’ll receive a lot of contempt for this piece)

· Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them (Dunning-Kruger)

· Authoritarian – does not tolerate any opinions or points of view that differs from theirs. Total control at all times

· Secretive – the use of false Facebook profiles, anonymous campaigns and secret groups come to mind

· Paranoid – everyone that does not conform to his or her world view must be a member of some secret right wing grouping intent on subjugating the rest of the world into some w***e s*********t Utopia.

· Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behaviour will be tolerated, condoned, or admired

· Conventional appearance – yes they walk among us, look like us, talk like us

· Goal of ens***ement (of their victim(s))

· Exercises despotic control over every aspect of societal life

· Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim – or in this case a willing victim mentality

· Extreme narcissism and grandiose

· May state readily that their goal is to rule the world – anyone familiar with George Soros and his history?"

Anybody with their eyes and minds open can relate this set with Trump, except the last point as Trump would never openly state that as it is socially unacceptable to state that you intend to "rule the world", or would he... Of course you must replace "right wing" with "left wing" in the "paranoid" point. Several of those points bring Trump's favorite phrase to come to mind, "F**e news", what he would say if someone were to point out his pathological lying or any of his many flaws.


All in all, that entire article seems to be speaking on Trump's many flaws so either it is all projection and those traits actually belong to conservatives, NOT liberals (this is the likely case), or Donald Trump is a closet liberal (not so likely).

This was all from an article here: https://m.news24.com/MyNews24/Liberalism-True-Political-Ideology-or-Mental-Disorder-20131022

The final article you linked, it is a push. It claims that Liberals are just as intolerant as conservatives when faced with opposing views. I have seen much evidence to the contrary but I have also seen much evidence to support that hypothesis as well. I will have to be more observant in the future and watch for signs that one is more intolerant than the other, vice versa or that is truly it equal. It is an eye opener.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114[/quote]



Interesting read... I always thought that trumps very stable genius statement sums it up well...

JustWantTruth

Sorry, your whole comment was just a big nothing sandwich. Seriously. No substance and the same blah blah blah and waa waa waa. Didn’t have to say dems or liberals to spew the same boring, non factor, crying crap all of you whine about all day. Waaaa, trump 2020. Waaaa, you don’t give him a chance. Waaaa, you take what he says literally. Waaaa, he uses his alternative facts. Waaaa, he promised to help me. 🤭 sorry, I’m trying to keep a straight face but I can’t ...😂😂😂😂

Common_Sense_Matters

Use quote reply button so people know to whom you are responding.

Bcon

The first time a libtard thinks for himself will be the next time. You libtards are so brainwashed by your leaders that promise you the world that the rich are going to pay with their taxes that you actually live in a world that can be only in your minds. Trumpsform of running the government is unlike anything you have seen before and is still a work in progress. The government you crazies long for has been tried over Andover again and has proven to be ,not a dream, but a nightmare. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it and then your children and grandchildren will suffer fo years.

Bcon

More of herself.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep!!!! Waaa- Waaa Waa!
It is difficult for liberals these days.

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