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Jun 3, 2019 16:27:34   #
bahmer
 
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies
By David Jolly - June 3, 2019

If you had a chance to build your dream or retirement home, where and what would you build? I know some say they would build a home along the coast where they could relax and watch the waves and fish whenever they want. Others would build a place by their favorite lake for pretty much the same reason. And others would build a home in the mountains among the trees and away from the hustle, bustle and noise of city life.

That was the case of 77-year-old Joe Robertson, who built his dream home in the mountains of Montana. Robertson, a retired Navy veteran and his wife Carri, had their dream retirement home until the Obama EPA turned their dream into a nightmare.

Robertson’s land was next to a national forest and due to the poor management of national forests by a government heavily influenced by know-nothing bleeding-heart environmentalists, the risk of forest fires become greater every year. Knowing the danger of fire, in 2013-14, Roberson built a couple of fire protection ponds along the edge of his property near a ditch that was only a foot wide and foot deep. The ponds were filled with water from trucks that hauled it in, since the only other available water was the trickle that ebbed along in the bottom of the ditch.

That’s when the EPA swept in and charged Robertson with violating the Clean Water Act after they declared the ditch to be a ‘navigable’ waterway. The closest real navigable waterway was over 40 miles away, but that didn’t stop the socialist land-grabbing EPA. They also charged that Robertson failed to obtain permission from the Army Corps of Engineers before building his fire protection ponds. Basically, the Obama EPA would rather see the Robertson’s lose everything in a fire than to take action to protect their home.

The EPA took Robertson to court where he was found guilty and sentenced to 18-months in prison AND a fine of $130,000. Since Robertson was unable to pay the fine, the government placed a lien on his property to cover the fine.

Robertson appealed his conviction, but that appeal was in the jurisdiction of the most liberal federal court in American history at the time, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the conviction.

With the help of the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF), Robertson appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, the proud Navy veteran died in March 2019 before the Supreme Court issued a ruling on his appeal. The Pacific Legal Foundation petitioned the court to allow Robertson’s widow, Carri, to stand in for her deceased husband. In the appeal, PCL argued that Robertson had been unconstitutionally convicted and that the EPA had exceeded their authority in using the Clean Water Act and claiming that the ditch was a navigable waterway.

A month after Joe Robertson passed away, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to uphold Joe’s conviction. About the fine, the Supreme Court ordered the 9th Circuit Court to verify whether or not Joe’s estate can contest the $130,000 fine, which became a lien against the land.

Hopefully, with the changing face of the 9th Circuit Court, thanks to nominations to fill vacancies on the court by President Donald Trump, the court will agree that the estate can contest the fine and that the fine will be reversed and the lien on the property removed.

What happened to Joe Robertson was not an isolated incident, but a common occurrence under the Obama administration. Numerous land owners were terrorized by Obama’s EPA in their quest to control all land in the nation, especially privately-owned land.

Take the case of Peter and Frankie Smith of New Mexico, another case in which PCL was involved in. Also during the reign of Barack Hussein Obama, the Smiths purchased 20 acres of land outside of Santa Fe in hopes of building their dream home to retire to and live happily ever after. As is typical in any desert landscape there are dry washes and stream beds that cross their land.

In one dry streambed they found lots of trash which they spent time cleaning up and hauling away. As they picked up the discarded tin cans, wine bottles and other items they also smoothed off the bottom of the desert wash and cleaned it up to make it look nice.

That’s when the big bad Army Corps of Engineers moved in and told them that wash was a ‘water of the United States’ and that their cleaning and smoothing of the wash constituted illegal dredging and pollution flow problems that could affect the Rio Grande River, some 25 miles away. By having the wash declared a water of the United States the Smiths were now subject to the rules and regulations of the Clean Water Act, which they were now in violation of according to the Army Corps of Engineers.

With the help of the PCL, the Smith’s won, but not until a long legal battle with the Obama government. These are not the only such cases that the Pacific Legal Foundation has handled.

Socialists like Obama and the rest of today’s Democrats believe that the government should own and control every inch of land within the borders. In fact they don’t believe in privately owned land except their own.

A couple of decades ago, the socialist run United Nations proposed a resolution that would place all land throughout the world under the control of the United Nations, giving them the authority to dictate who could live where and on how much land. At the time this was proposed, the US representative at the UN event was then Sen. Al Gore and he SIGNED the resolution for the US. Fortunately, any foreign treaty or resolution requires a two-thirds v**e in the Senate to pass, and there wasn’t near enough v**es to approve the resolution.

If you think what was happening to land owners under Obama was bad, wait until Democrats gain control of Congress and the White House. Given the opportunity, they will do to Americans what the UN tried to do to the entire world. If you value the land where you live, even if it’s just a tiny piece of land in a subdivision, understand that Democrats would love to take that away from you and give it to someone else who hasn’t paid a penny for it.

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Jun 3, 2019 16:54:48   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
bahmer wrote:
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies
By David Jolly - June 3, 2019

If you had a chance to build your dream or retirement home, where and what would you build? I know some say they would build a home along the coast where they could relax and watch the waves and fish whenever they want. Others would build a place by their favorite lake for pretty much the same reason. And others would build a home in the mountains among the trees and away from the hustle, bustle and noise of city life.

That was the case of 77-year-old Joe Robertson, who built his dream home in the mountains of Montana. Robertson, a retired Navy veteran and his wife Carri, had their dream retirement home until the Obama EPA turned their dream into a nightmare.

Robertson’s land was next to a national forest and due to the poor management of national forests by a government heavily influenced by know-nothing bleeding-heart environmentalists, the risk of forest fires become greater every year. Knowing the danger of fire, in 2013-14, Roberson built a couple of fire protection ponds along the edge of his property near a ditch that was only a foot wide and foot deep. The ponds were filled with water from trucks that hauled it in, since the only other available water was the trickle that ebbed along in the bottom of the ditch.

That’s when the EPA swept in and charged Robertson with violating the Clean Water Act after they declared the ditch to be a ‘navigable’ waterway. The closest real navigable waterway was over 40 miles away, but that didn’t stop the socialist land-grabbing EPA. They also charged that Robertson failed to obtain permission from the Army Corps of Engineers before building his fire protection ponds. Basically, the Obama EPA would rather see the Robertson’s lose everything in a fire than to take action to protect their home.

The EPA took Robertson to court where he was found guilty and sentenced to 18-months in prison AND a fine of $130,000. Since Robertson was unable to pay the fine, the government placed a lien on his property to cover the fine.

Robertson appealed his conviction, but that appeal was in the jurisdiction of the most liberal federal court in American history at the time, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the conviction.

With the help of the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF), Robertson appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, the proud Navy veteran died in March 2019 before the Supreme Court issued a ruling on his appeal. The Pacific Legal Foundation petitioned the court to allow Robertson’s widow, Carri, to stand in for her deceased husband. In the appeal, PCL argued that Robertson had been unconstitutionally convicted and that the EPA had exceeded their authority in using the Clean Water Act and claiming that the ditch was a navigable waterway.

A month after Joe Robertson passed away, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to uphold Joe’s conviction. About the fine, the Supreme Court ordered the 9th Circuit Court to verify whether or not Joe’s estate can contest the $130,000 fine, which became a lien against the land.

Hopefully, with the changing face of the 9th Circuit Court, thanks to nominations to fill vacancies on the court by President Donald Trump, the court will agree that the estate can contest the fine and that the fine will be reversed and the lien on the property removed.

What happened to Joe Robertson was not an isolated incident, but a common occurrence under the Obama administration. Numerous land owners were terrorized by Obama’s EPA in their quest to control all land in the nation, especially privately-owned land.

Take the case of Peter and Frankie Smith of New Mexico, another case in which PCL was involved in. Also during the reign of Barack Hussein Obama, the Smiths purchased 20 acres of land outside of Santa Fe in hopes of building their dream home to retire to and live happily ever after. As is typical in any desert landscape there are dry washes and stream beds that cross their land.

In one dry streambed they found lots of trash which they spent time cleaning up and hauling away. As they picked up the discarded tin cans, wine bottles and other items they also smoothed off the bottom of the desert wash and cleaned it up to make it look nice.

That’s when the big bad Army Corps of Engineers moved in and told them that wash was a ‘water of the United States’ and that their cleaning and smoothing of the wash constituted illegal dredging and pollution flow problems that could affect the Rio Grande River, some 25 miles away. By having the wash declared a water of the United States the Smiths were now subject to the rules and regulations of the Clean Water Act, which they were now in violation of according to the Army Corps of Engineers.

With the help of the PCL, the Smith’s won, but not until a long legal battle with the Obama government. These are not the only such cases that the Pacific Legal Foundation has handled.

Socialists like Obama and the rest of today’s Democrats believe that the government should own and control every inch of land within the borders. In fact they don’t believe in privately owned land except their own.

A couple of decades ago, the socialist run United Nations proposed a resolution that would place all land throughout the world under the control of the United Nations, giving them the authority to dictate who could live where and on how much land. At the time this was proposed, the US representative at the UN event was then Sen. Al Gore and he SIGNED the resolution for the US. Fortunately, any foreign treaty or resolution requires a two-thirds v**e in the Senate to pass, and there wasn’t near enough v**es to approve the resolution.

If you think what was happening to land owners under Obama was bad, wait until Democrats gain control of Congress and the White House. Given the opportunity, they will do to Americans what the UN tried to do to the entire world. If you value the land where you live, even if it’s just a tiny piece of land in a subdivision, understand that Democrats would love to take that away from you and give it to someone else who hasn’t paid a penny for it.
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies br By David... (show quote)


Pathetic and frightening at the same time isn't it? And those who are hoping for full socialism are hoping the same kind of minds are making the rules about everything we do, say and think.
I am glad I am OLD I won't be here to be subjected to this kind of dictatorship. Unfortunately all" our boys" will be.

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Jun 3, 2019 16:57:16   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Pathetic and frightening at the same time isn't it? And those who are hoping for full socialism are hoping the same kind of minds are making the rules about everything we do, say and think.
I am glad I am OLD I won't be here to be subjected to this kind of dictatorship. Unfortunately all" our boys" will be.


Amen and Amen I am old also but have children and grandchildren that I worry about.

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Jun 3, 2019 17:04:51   #
Hug
 
bahmer wrote:
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies
By David Jolly - June 3, 2019

If you had a chance to build your dream or retirement home, where and what would you build? I know some say they would build a home along the coast where they could relax and watch the waves and fish whenever they want. Others would build a place by their favorite lake for pretty much the same reason. And others would build a home in the mountains among the trees and away from the hustle, bustle and noise of city life.

That was the case of 77-year-old Joe Robertson, who built his dream home in the mountains of Montana. Robertson, a retired Navy veteran and his wife Carri, had their dream retirement home until the Obama EPA turned their dream into a nightmare.

Robertson’s land was next to a national forest and due to the poor management of national forests by a government heavily influenced by know-nothing bleeding-heart environmentalists, the risk of forest fires become greater every year. Knowing the danger of fire, in 2013-14, Roberson built a couple of fire protection ponds along the edge of his property near a ditch that was only a foot wide and foot deep. The ponds were filled with water from trucks that hauled it in, since the only other available water was the trickle that ebbed along in the bottom of the ditch.

That’s when the EPA swept in and charged Robertson with violating the Clean Water Act after they declared the ditch to be a ‘navigable’ waterway. The closest real navigable waterway was over 40 miles away, but that didn’t stop the socialist land-grabbing EPA. They also charged that Robertson failed to obtain permission from the Army Corps of Engineers before building his fire protection ponds. Basically, the Obama EPA would rather see the Robertson’s lose everything in a fire than to take action to protect their home.

The EPA took Robertson to court where he was found guilty and sentenced to 18-months in prison AND a fine of $130,000. Since Robertson was unable to pay the fine, the government placed a lien on his property to cover the fine.

Robertson appealed his conviction, but that appeal was in the jurisdiction of the most liberal federal court in American history at the time, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the conviction.

With the help of the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF), Robertson appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, the proud Navy veteran died in March 2019 before the Supreme Court issued a ruling on his appeal. The Pacific Legal Foundation petitioned the court to allow Robertson’s widow, Carri, to stand in for her deceased husband. In the appeal, PCL argued that Robertson had been unconstitutionally convicted and that the EPA had exceeded their authority in using the Clean Water Act and claiming that the ditch was a navigable waterway.

A month after Joe Robertson passed away, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to uphold Joe’s conviction. About the fine, the Supreme Court ordered the 9th Circuit Court to verify whether or not Joe’s estate can contest the $130,000 fine, which became a lien against the land.

Hopefully, with the changing face of the 9th Circuit Court, thanks to nominations to fill vacancies on the court by President Donald Trump, the court will agree that the estate can contest the fine and that the fine will be reversed and the lien on the property removed.

What happened to Joe Robertson was not an isolated incident, but a common occurrence under the Obama administration. Numerous land owners were terrorized by Obama’s EPA in their quest to control all land in the nation, especially privately-owned land.

Take the case of Peter and Frankie Smith of New Mexico, another case in which PCL was involved in. Also during the reign of Barack Hussein Obama, the Smiths purchased 20 acres of land outside of Santa Fe in hopes of building their dream home to retire to and live happily ever after. As is typical in any desert landscape there are dry washes and stream beds that cross their land.

In one dry streambed they found lots of trash which they spent time cleaning up and hauling away. As they picked up the discarded tin cans, wine bottles and other items they also smoothed off the bottom of the desert wash and cleaned it up to make it look nice.

That’s when the big bad Army Corps of Engineers moved in and told them that wash was a ‘water of the United States’ and that their cleaning and smoothing of the wash constituted illegal dredging and pollution flow problems that could affect the Rio Grande River, some 25 miles away. By having the wash declared a water of the United States the Smiths were now subject to the rules and regulations of the Clean Water Act, which they were now in violation of according to the Army Corps of Engineers.

With the help of the PCL, the Smith’s won, but not until a long legal battle with the Obama government. These are not the only such cases that the Pacific Legal Foundation has handled.

Socialists like Obama and the rest of today’s Democrats believe that the government should own and control every inch of land within the borders. In fact they don’t believe in privately owned land except their own.

A couple of decades ago, the socialist run United Nations proposed a resolution that would place all land throughout the world under the control of the United Nations, giving them the authority to dictate who could live where and on how much land. At the time this was proposed, the US representative at the UN event was then Sen. Al Gore and he SIGNED the resolution for the US. Fortunately, any foreign treaty or resolution requires a two-thirds v**e in the Senate to pass, and there wasn’t near enough v**es to approve the resolution.

If you think what was happening to land owners under Obama was bad, wait until Democrats gain control of Congress and the White House. Given the opportunity, they will do to Americans what the UN tried to do to the entire world. If you value the land where you live, even if it’s just a tiny piece of land in a subdivision, understand that Democrats would love to take that away from you and give it to someone else who hasn’t paid a penny for it.
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies br By David... (show quote)

It is very obvious that the clean water act is an effort to confiscate land and negate lane ownership. In my mind Obama had designes to turn America into a full blown C*******t country and was going to use the clean water act to take away private property.

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Jun 3, 2019 17:49:32   #
roy
 
Hug wrote:
It is very obvious that the clean water act is an effort to confiscate land and negate lane ownership. In my mind Obama had designes to turn America into a full blown C*******t country and was going to use the clean water act to take away private property.


Evientaly you dont know what trump has done to people when he wants their land for a new golf course,ask some people in scotland.

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Jun 3, 2019 18:00:30   #
Hug
 
roy wrote:
Evientaly you dont know what trump has done to people when he wants their land for a new golf course,ask some people in scotland.


Just what did TRUMP do to those folks in Scotland? Pay them a lot of money for their land and make them rich?

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Jun 3, 2019 19:16:53   #
Gatsby
 
bahmer wrote:
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies
By David Jolly - June 3, 2019

If you had a chance to build your dream or retirement home, where and what would you build? I know some say they would build a home along the coast where they could relax and watch the waves and fish whenever they want. Others would build a place by their favorite lake for pretty much the same reason. And others would build a home in the mountains among the trees and away from the hustle, bustle and noise of city life.

That was the case of 77-year-old Joe Robertson, who built his dream home in the mountains of Montana. Robertson, a retired Navy veteran and his wife Carri, had their dream retirement home until the Obama EPA turned their dream into a nightmare.

Robertson’s land was next to a national forest and due to the poor management of national forests by a government heavily influenced by know-nothing bleeding-heart environmentalists, the risk of forest fires become greater every year. Knowing the danger of fire, in 2013-14, Roberson built a couple of fire protection ponds along the edge of his property near a ditch that was only a foot wide and foot deep. The ponds were filled with water from trucks that hauled it in, since the only other available water was the trickle that ebbed along in the bottom of the ditch.

That’s when the EPA swept in and charged Robertson with violating the Clean Water Act after they declared the ditch to be a ‘navigable’ waterway. The closest real navigable waterway was over 40 miles away, but that didn’t stop the socialist land-grabbing EPA. They also charged that Robertson failed to obtain permission from the Army Corps of Engineers before building his fire protection ponds. Basically, the Obama EPA would rather see the Robertson’s lose everything in a fire than to take action to protect their home.

The EPA took Robertson to court where he was found guilty and sentenced to 18-months in prison AND a fine of $130,000. Since Robertson was unable to pay the fine, the government placed a lien on his property to cover the fine.

Robertson appealed his conviction, but that appeal was in the jurisdiction of the most liberal federal court in American history at the time, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the conviction.

With the help of the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF), Robertson appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, the proud Navy veteran died in March 2019 before the Supreme Court issued a ruling on his appeal. The Pacific Legal Foundation petitioned the court to allow Robertson’s widow, Carri, to stand in for her deceased husband. In the appeal, PCL argued that Robertson had been unconstitutionally convicted and that the EPA had exceeded their authority in using the Clean Water Act and claiming that the ditch was a navigable waterway.

A month after Joe Robertson passed away, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to uphold Joe’s conviction. About the fine, the Supreme Court ordered the 9th Circuit Court to verify whether or not Joe’s estate can contest the $130,000 fine, which became a lien against the land.

Hopefully, with the changing face of the 9th Circuit Court, thanks to nominations to fill vacancies on the court by President Donald Trump, the court will agree that the estate can contest the fine and that the fine will be reversed and the lien on the property removed.

What happened to Joe Robertson was not an isolated incident, but a common occurrence under the Obama administration. Numerous land owners were terrorized by Obama’s EPA in their quest to control all land in the nation, especially privately-owned land.

Take the case of Peter and Frankie Smith of New Mexico, another case in which PCL was involved in. Also during the reign of Barack Hussein Obama, the Smiths purchased 20 acres of land outside of Santa Fe in hopes of building their dream home to retire to and live happily ever after. As is typical in any desert landscape there are dry washes and stream beds that cross their land.

In one dry streambed they found lots of trash which they spent time cleaning up and hauling away. As they picked up the discarded tin cans, wine bottles and other items they also smoothed off the bottom of the desert wash and cleaned it up to make it look nice.

That’s when the big bad Army Corps of Engineers moved in and told them that wash was a ‘water of the United States’ and that their cleaning and smoothing of the wash constituted illegal dredging and pollution flow problems that could affect the Rio Grande River, some 25 miles away. By having the wash declared a water of the United States the Smiths were now subject to the rules and regulations of the Clean Water Act, which they were now in violation of according to the Army Corps of Engineers.

With the help of the PCL, the Smith’s won, but not until a long legal battle with the Obama government. These are not the only such cases that the Pacific Legal Foundation has handled.

Socialists like Obama and the rest of today’s Democrats believe that the government should own and control every inch of land within the borders. In fact they don’t believe in privately owned land except their own.

A couple of decades ago, the socialist run United Nations proposed a resolution that would place all land throughout the world under the control of the United Nations, giving them the authority to dictate who could live where and on how much land. At the time this was proposed, the US representative at the UN event was then Sen. Al Gore and he SIGNED the resolution for the US. Fortunately, any foreign treaty or resolution requires a two-thirds v**e in the Senate to pass, and there wasn’t near enough v**es to approve the resolution.

If you think what was happening to land owners under Obama was bad, wait until Democrats gain control of Congress and the White House. Given the opportunity, they will do to Americans what the UN tried to do to the entire world. If you value the land where you live, even if it’s just a tiny piece of land in a subdivision, understand that Democrats would love to take that away from you and give it to someone else who hasn’t paid a penny for it.
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies br By David... (show quote)


Under Obama's EPA my rain-gutters could have qualified as a "Navigable Waterway",

the pothole in my driveway could have qualified as a "Protected Wetland",

I would have had to do an "Environmental Impact Study" to repair either one.

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Jun 4, 2019 11:12:27   #
JoyV
 
bahmer wrote:
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies
By David Jolly - June 3, 2019

If you had a chance to build your dream or retirement home, where and what would you build? I know some say they would build a home along the coast where they could relax and watch the waves and fish whenever they want. Others would build a place by their favorite lake for pretty much the same reason. And others would build a home in the mountains among the trees and away from the hustle, bustle and noise of city life.

That was the case of 77-year-old Joe Robertson, who built his dream home in the mountains of Montana. Robertson, a retired Navy veteran and his wife Carri, had their dream retirement home until the Obama EPA turned their dream into a nightmare.

Robertson’s land was next to a national forest and due to the poor management of national forests by a government heavily influenced by know-nothing bleeding-heart environmentalists, the risk of forest fires become greater every year. Knowing the danger of fire, in 2013-14, Roberson built a couple of fire protection ponds along the edge of his property near a ditch that was only a foot wide and foot deep. The ponds were filled with water from trucks that hauled it in, since the only other available water was the trickle that ebbed along in the bottom of the ditch.

That’s when the EPA swept in and charged Robertson with violating the Clean Water Act after they declared the ditch to be a ‘navigable’ waterway. The closest real navigable waterway was over 40 miles away, but that didn’t stop the socialist land-grabbing EPA. They also charged that Robertson failed to obtain permission from the Army Corps of Engineers before building his fire protection ponds. Basically, the Obama EPA would rather see the Robertson’s lose everything in a fire than to take action to protect their home.

The EPA took Robertson to court where he was found guilty and sentenced to 18-months in prison AND a fine of $130,000. Since Robertson was unable to pay the fine, the government placed a lien on his property to cover the fine.

Robertson appealed his conviction, but that appeal was in the jurisdiction of the most liberal federal court in American history at the time, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, who upheld the conviction.

With the help of the Pacific Legal Foundation (PLF), Robertson appealed to the US Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, the proud Navy veteran died in March 2019 before the Supreme Court issued a ruling on his appeal. The Pacific Legal Foundation petitioned the court to allow Robertson’s widow, Carri, to stand in for her deceased husband. In the appeal, PCL argued that Robertson had been unconstitutionally convicted and that the EPA had exceeded their authority in using the Clean Water Act and claiming that the ditch was a navigable waterway.

A month after Joe Robertson passed away, the Supreme Court vacated the ruling of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to uphold Joe’s conviction. About the fine, the Supreme Court ordered the 9th Circuit Court to verify whether or not Joe’s estate can contest the $130,000 fine, which became a lien against the land.

Hopefully, with the changing face of the 9th Circuit Court, thanks to nominations to fill vacancies on the court by President Donald Trump, the court will agree that the estate can contest the fine and that the fine will be reversed and the lien on the property removed.

What happened to Joe Robertson was not an isolated incident, but a common occurrence under the Obama administration. Numerous land owners were terrorized by Obama’s EPA in their quest to control all land in the nation, especially privately-owned land.

Take the case of Peter and Frankie Smith of New Mexico, another case in which PCL was involved in. Also during the reign of Barack Hussein Obama, the Smiths purchased 20 acres of land outside of Santa Fe in hopes of building their dream home to retire to and live happily ever after. As is typical in any desert landscape there are dry washes and stream beds that cross their land.

In one dry streambed they found lots of trash which they spent time cleaning up and hauling away. As they picked up the discarded tin cans, wine bottles and other items they also smoothed off the bottom of the desert wash and cleaned it up to make it look nice.

That’s when the big bad Army Corps of Engineers moved in and told them that wash was a ‘water of the United States’ and that their cleaning and smoothing of the wash constituted illegal dredging and pollution flow problems that could affect the Rio Grande River, some 25 miles away. By having the wash declared a water of the United States the Smiths were now subject to the rules and regulations of the Clean Water Act, which they were now in violation of according to the Army Corps of Engineers.

With the help of the PCL, the Smith’s won, but not until a long legal battle with the Obama government. These are not the only such cases that the Pacific Legal Foundation has handled.

Socialists like Obama and the rest of today’s Democrats believe that the government should own and control every inch of land within the borders. In fact they don’t believe in privately owned land except their own.

A couple of decades ago, the socialist run United Nations proposed a resolution that would place all land throughout the world under the control of the United Nations, giving them the authority to dictate who could live where and on how much land. At the time this was proposed, the US representative at the UN event was then Sen. Al Gore and he SIGNED the resolution for the US. Fortunately, any foreign treaty or resolution requires a two-thirds v**e in the Senate to pass, and there wasn’t near enough v**es to approve the resolution.

If you think what was happening to land owners under Obama was bad, wait until Democrats gain control of Congress and the White House. Given the opportunity, they will do to Americans what the UN tried to do to the entire world. If you value the land where you live, even if it’s just a tiny piece of land in a subdivision, understand that Democrats would love to take that away from you and give it to someone else who hasn’t paid a penny for it.
EPA Wrong But After Convicted Vet Dies br By David... (show quote)


I've heard of at least half a dozen similar cases which never went so far due to the property owners not having the financial means to fight it out in court, including one person I knew personally.

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