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Jun 4, 2019 07:19:21   #
Big Kahuna
 
JimMe wrote:
Airforceone...

Yes, Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security is Socialistic... Government Taxes and Borrowing to financially assist people...

In a Capitalist System, property and businesses are owned and controlled by individuals...
In a Socialist System, the state owns and controls the major means of support of the individuals...
My source is: www.investopedia.com...

Marxism is a 19th century means of achieving a C*******t System that has never been applied in Our USA, and has never been successfully applied in Any Nation...
My source is my courses in William Paterson College...
Airforceone... br br Yes, Medicare/Medicaid and S... (show quote)


Marxism is old school and outdated. Capitalism is the only shining star as a superior form of economic success. It lifts all people and keeps the so called elite from picking our pockets to benefit themselves.

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Jun 4, 2019 08:01:24   #
TrueAmerican
 
Airforceone wrote:
Is Medicare and SS socialism

Can OPP bloggers please give your definition of socialism and where you believe socialism is applied in our government.


Can OPP give the true definition of Capitalism and where Capitalism is applied in our government.

Can OPP bloggers give the definition of Marxism and where Marxism is applied in our Government.

Hopefully will will generate a great debate over these three forms of government. There’s no reason for insults.


Neither are free --- I paid SS and medicare my entire (51 yrs) working career. It is my money the gov't is just now returning.

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Jun 4, 2019 08:08:41   #
Retired builder
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Neither are free --- I paid SS and medicare my entire (51 yrs) working career. It is my money the gov't is just now returning.


Yup, and without a thank you.

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Jun 4, 2019 09:07:20   #
Airforceone
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Marxism is old school and outdated. Capitalism is the only shining star as and understand a superior form of economic success. It lifts all people and keeps the so called elite from picking our pockets to benefit themselves.


Great thank you for your perceptions what is the definition of Capitalism. After you read the definition of capitalism how do we obtain economic success with some form of socialism.

How can a 100% Capitalism form of government keep keep the so called elite from picking your pocket.

We obtain economic success with a combination of socialism and capitalism.

If we do not have government spending we have no economy. If not for tax payers investing in our capitalist the capitalist doesn’t exist.

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Jun 4, 2019 09:31:57   #
Airforceone
 
I asked a question give the definition of socialism and capitalism. Then where in our government is socialism applied and how thru this country thru socialism we support our capitalist. I do not believe in a 100% Capitalism nor do I believe in 100% socialism.

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Jun 4, 2019 11:44:23   #
Kazudy
 
Airforceone wrote:
Is Medicare and SS socialism

Can OPP bloggers please give your definition of socialism and where you believe socialism is applied in our government.


Can OPP give the true definition of Capitalism and where Capitalism is applied in our government.

Can OPP bloggers give the definition of Marxism and where Marxism is applied in our Government.

Hopefully will will generate a great debate over these three forms of government. There’s no reason for insults.


Not in my opinion, because we pay into it.

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Jun 4, 2019 12:36:39   #
maureenthannon
 
Socialism is a system where the government OWNS AND CONTROLS ALL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. AKA, THEY OWN EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE! It's been tried many times. The USSR(United Soviet Socialist Republic, N**i ( German SOCIALIST WORKER PARTY), Venezuela, Cuba,etc. Where ever there is Socialism. the people are equalized. There aren't rich people, Middle Class, and Poor people. ALL THE COMMON PEOPLE ARE EQUALLY DESTITUTE, STARVING. It usually is ended y a Civil War, when the people refuse to live like garbage any more. It usually ends in MANY, MANY PEOPLE DYING! Either from starvation or the government k**ls them. Doesn't sound like anything that Americans would want( Except the oung people who've been fooled by lying teachers into believing that te government can and will give all the people "FREE STUFF' They don't realize how terribly expensive that Free tuff really is!

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Jun 4, 2019 13:12:09   #
teabag09
 
vernon wrote:
There are many in the demoRAT party that are advocating the elimination of private property. Those who
own their home will lose everything.And that is the DemoRAT party of today.


Vernon, I paid off my mortgage years ago and yet I don't own my house. If I don't pay the taxes imposed on the property the local government can throw me out of MY HOME. If I don't pay the taxes the federal government impose, even on money already taxed, on me, they can and will take my home, my paid off car and everything else I own and probably take my freedom also. Mike

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Jun 4, 2019 13:15:01   #
teabag09
 
Airforceone wrote:
Great thank you for your perceptions what is the definition of Capitalism. After you read the definition of capitalism how do we obtain economic success with some form of socialism.

How can a 100% Capitalism form of government keep keep the so called elite from picking your pocket.

We obtain economic success with a combination of socialism and capitalism.

If we do not have government spending we have no economy. If not for tax payers investing in our capitalist the capitalist doesn’t exist.
Great thank you for your perceptions what is the d... (show quote)


The federal government is not a capitalist institution. Mike

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Jun 4, 2019 18:39:07   #
okie don
 
teabag09 wrote:
The federal government is not a capitalist institution. Mike


A corporation.
See act of 1871.
Pres is CEO of Corp.

We are tenants on land.
Tenants in Common on deed.

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Jun 4, 2019 22:26:33   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Can this country survive under a 100% capitalistic form of government.

Now you did not post on socialism??????

But the main objective of Marxism is to discredit capitalism which is not good. But according to Marxism those in power (Known as the upper class control all the resources and oppress the poor, so as to remain in power.

Capitalism where do the funds come from for the capitalist to even begin to invest in. Example the Federal government has many employees, the federal government invests in roads, Bridges, Schools, our military through private contractors (Capitalist) all our first responders, police, teachers, Fireman, DPW employees. Trillions of dollars are invested through federal, State and local taxes all these tax dollars are invested with our capitalist which is a great. But our economy is built on government spending. That’s socialism, that’s the reason why I wanted you to look up the definition of socialism and capitalism and how they work together.

The federal government does not control manufacturing of goods and services.

So please expand on your post because if you understand the complete scope of 100% capitalism and 100% socialism it will give you a better idea of how our government has incorporated the positives of the federal government operates and invest in our capitalist which is a very positive way of governance.

Our founding fathers omitted any reference to socialism in the constitution on purpose but if you read there ideals on capitalism they did not mean the US should promote 100% capitalism but in the constitution they do refer to certain forms of socialism without using the term socialism.

But if you look up the definition you will have a better understanding. Thank you for your post and look forward to you expanding on your perception
Can this country survive under a 100% capitalistic... (show quote)

As to your initial question ... no. The only way that capitalism survives is in a regulated form to make sure that the consumer doesn't get shafted, and that there is fair competition. If you have either of these conditions, it's a no-go.

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Jun 4, 2019 22:28:56   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
I asked a question give the definition of socialism and capitalism. Then where in our government is socialism applied and how thru this country thru socialism we support our capitalist. I do not believe in a 100% Capitalism nor do I believe in 100% socialism.

All things in moderation. Neither system can exist totally on its own. A compromise with the best parts of both is the only way that it happens.

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Jun 4, 2019 22:32:17   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
teabag09 wrote:
The federal government is not a capitalist institution. Mike

The federal government exists for only one reason ... to do things for its citizens that they cannot do on their own. Large infrastructure projects, national defense, regulation of business to insure that nobody gets gouged, justice is fairly served and that competition is fair, air traffic control, etc.
Anything else isn't in the cards.

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Jun 4, 2019 22:33:52   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
okie don wrote:
A corporation.
See act of 1871.
Pres is CEO of Corp.

We are tenants on land.
Tenants in Common on deed.

Which act are you referring to? Full reference, please...

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Jun 4, 2019 23:21:02   #
Retired builder
 
whitnebrat wrote:
The federal government exists for only one reason ... to do things for its citizens that they cannot do on their own. Large infrastructure projects, national defense, regulation of business to insure that nobody gets gouged, justice is fairly served and that competition is fair, air traffic control, etc.
Anything else isn't in the cards.


The Government has failed in every one of these issues you have mentioned. Private industry has bailed them out of all their failures - Large infrastructure: Levee systems on our rivers are failing, National defense: our borders are being overrun by Illegal invaders, Regulation of business: overregulation has caused a decline in business growth (were getting gouged anyway), Justice: Went out the window with the Clintons, Competition is subverted with bribes and favors i.e. Comey's deal with Boeing, Air traffic control: liberal incursion into the qualification of controllers based on perceived bias's ( they were hiring people without proper qualification, a liberal concept) and as far as etc. goes the incompetence of government is rampant to it's core. The "Government" is a corrupted, incompetent, immune entity that couldn't give a s**t about you as an individual. keep your guns, protect yourself, be self sufficient.

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