EmilyD

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/mueller_and_obstruction_of_justice.html

Snip from article:

"Mueller has had to walk back his lie about Office of Legal Counsel policy keeping him from indicting a sitting president. In his alleged “farewell” address, former Special Counsel Mueller managed to channel former FBI Director James Comey. Where is it written that former FBI directors get to recite a litany of possible charges against someone they are not going to charge? If, as Mueller had said, you could indict a sitting President, and that is why he was not indicted, then why did he spend some $40 million the past two years pursuing an indictment? Just what happened to the presumption of innocence?"

Lonewolf

Trump was not all that was investigated

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

So? What the hell is your point? When they finally get to the bottom of how this investigation started in the first place it won't be Trump in jail.

emarine

Now that's logical... start another investigation before addressing the split conclusion from the first investigation... trump is now subverting our rule of law by becoming above the law... converting our system to just another banana republic in plain view of the entire world... I bet putin is enjoying the show...

Common_Sense_Matters

Response to first bold statement:

That IS the current DOJ policy.



Perhaps if instead of parroting what all the talking heads on alt right media sources are spouting, you would actually do some research, you may be much better informed.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president’s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution

Response to blue bold statement:

He was tasked with a job top do, like many special counsels before him, to conduct an investigation and return his findings. As the DOJ is of the mindset that you can't indict a sitting president, his task was NEVER to indict Trump. As for the money invested into the investigation, with the indictments, convictions and the forfeitures that resulted, it has paid for itself and then some, quit complaining.

Response to green bold statement:

While Mueller did NOT exonerate Trump on obstruction of justice, Mueller NEVER pronounced Trump guilty, he kept his thoughts on Trump's innocence/guilt to himself. People following the case, they are likely to have their own opinions as to whether Trump is innocent or guilty. I find it quite interesting how many complaining the loudest about others assuming Trump guilty of obstruction using the old "innocent until proven guilty" principle, they tend to be the ones that scream the loudest "lock her up" referring to Hillary Clinton and her alleged crimes, some of which are nothing more than the delusional fantasies of conspiracy theorist. I guess where it comes to Trump and obstruction the presumption is supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty", but when it comes to Hillary or any other Democrat suspected of anything, it is supposed to be "guilty until proven innocent". Would that be a just assessment?

Let us examine Mueller's own words in relation to Trump's innocence/guilt.





Source: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/29/robert-mueller-statement-russia-investigation-text-transcript-1346453

As you can clearly see, while his second statement clearly shows that he has reasonable cause to suspect that Trump IS guilty of obstruction of justice, he doesn't come out and say that Trump IS guilty, only that if he had confidence of Trump's innocence that he would say so, which he didn't.

Now I do know that some here on OPP ARE assuming that Trump IS guilty of obstruction and reading the Mueller report, it is easy to come to that conclusion. It is no worse than what those on the other side have done in regards to crimes real or imagined that Democrats are alleged to have committed. If Democrats are presumed "guilty until proven innocent", you can't later complain when Republicans are later held to that same standard.

badbob85037

"her alleged crimes, some of which are nothing more than the delusional fantasies of conspiracy theorist."
Your'e half right. She could as stupid as she is criminal. Just which crimes was she framed for, treason, fraud, lying, or has she been persecuted for just being an ugly stank? I don't do politico. It's where stupid people go to confirm their delusions.

Common_Sense_Matters

It is only the transcript of his report, rather than hand type from the copy I have in PDF format, I chose to copy it from a transcript of the report, where it comes from is unimportant as it contains the same information word for word as my copy of his report.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Mueller investigated a large number of people surrounding Trump related to Russian malfeasance, and, except for a few questions, did not investigate Trump himself, that was not his mandate. Mueller stated that he did not pursue potential indictable offenses, since DOJ policy forbid such activity, further stating that "other's", meaning Congress, had such authority. Mueller made it clear, however, that IF the results of his investigation had exonerated Trump..............................they would have said so.

It was not up to Mueller to determine if criminal/obstruction charges should be brought against Trump, it is not up to the attorney general to make such a determination and is not up to the public or media to do so either................that is the sole prerogative of the Congress. Mueller did not claim that Trump was guilty of anything, nor did he claim that he was innocent, stating that his report speaks for itself.

People are treating Mueller's report the same way they do the US Constitution and the Bible..................reading between the lines, skipping lines or adding s**t, to get it to say what they want it to say.

bggamers Loc: georgia

how do you think he's subverting our laws please explain????

bggamers Loc: georgia

What's delusional about having an unprotected computer to do national security business on in your damn closet in your private home? Which we know for a fact she was informed on its being illegal before taking office because she signed a paper stating she UNDERSTOOD THAT but she did it anyway!!!! Where is the delusion? Where is the conspiracy???

TrueAmerican

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

The investigation was mandated to look into Russian interference in the 2016 e******n, and to go where it leads. The baseless FISA warrants authorizing spying on then Candidate Trump and contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian citizens at the time were a part of that investigation but not necessarily the focus. Read the report, it's all in there.

emarine

By using every trick in the book to silence & suppress any information Muller & others found about trumps general past & financial history... Lets just imply trumps backed by Russian money or even Putin himself … you don't feel the need to know ?... well I sure do... trump's history has proven him dishonest so why give a free ride now... our president is not above our law unless you prefer dictatorship's... we the people have the right to know the t***h...

emarine

TrueAmerican or loyal serf...

bggamers Loc: georgia

AND just how do you come by all this information or is it suspicions that you have