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Well, it looks more and more like we may, at last, have a new South. Virginia and Florida went blue in the last p**********l e******n. Virginia now has a Democratic governor, Terry McAuliffe. The bible-thumping goober- Republican, Ken Cucinelli was shown the door.

The ultimate liberal prize would be if the Democratic party could register enough minority v**ers to turn Texas blue. Best estimates are that it could be accomplished in less than ten years. Then you could put a fork in the GOP, as a serious national party.

New Mexico, West Virginia and Mississippi are poor states. DC is a government city that produces almost nothing. Of course these take in more government aid--if we follow your assumption that money follows need.

New Mexico is a "Blue" state--btw. DC, as a government enclave, is very dependent on government, making it more likely to v**e for democrats--the supporters of big government.

In final analysis, methinks you are merely repeating what you have heard without thinking about it. It's all just happy-talk for democrats so they can feel good about themselves. But dems are no smarter than anybody else--maybe more deluded, but not smarter.

BTW, I'm not a republican. I believe both parties to be filled with delusional, hypocritical power-mongers.

The whole concept of liberal versus conservative is silly. Most are identified as one or the other by someone else. Those that are self proclaimed, as one or the other, aren't really what they claim. Liberals only want to spend YOUR money, not their own and conservatives only want to save THEIR money, but don't have a problem with spending yours. So, when all is said and done - they're exactly the same, they just present their justification differently.

It is really irrelevant about the makeup of any State, since some have dem governors and repub legislatures ( ie; AR ), or visa versa. Trying to prove that one party is more successful at governance than another is a fools errand. Both sides blame the other side for failures and want to take credit for success, but the fact is, success happens IN SPITE of politics - or it doesn't happen at all.

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Well, it looks more and more like we may, at last, have a new South. Virginia and Florida went blue in the last p**********l e******n. Virginia now has a Democratic governor, Terry McAuliffe. The bible-thumping goober- Republican, Ken Cucinelli was shown the door.

The ultimate liberal prize would be if the Democratic party could register enough minority v**ers to turn Texas blue. Best estimates are that it could be accomplished in less than ten years. Then you could put a fork in the GOP, as a serious national party.

As Gomer Pyle would say, "Su-prize! Su-prize! Su-prize! Su-prize! Red States Actually Take in More Federal Aid Than Blue States!" Inasmuch as conservatives like to think they have it all figured out, they need to realize that they, themselves, are the ones they're actually fighting against.

The biggest stereotype of a liberal, perpetrated by the right, is that we are all just a bunch of lazy moochers and takers, and that we love to feed off the federal government and the tax-payers. All we do is take take and take and give nothing back .

I do appreciate what you say because much of it is spot on and it does point to blue states supporting the middle class and family wage jobs. It also points out that the Fed is spending way more than it takes in...how long can that go on?

Oh, but wait, conservatives! I think it’s time to get off that righteous rocking-horse of yours and take a good long look into the mirror. Tell me, what do you see? What have you noticed? Open your eyes! Look some more! Focus!

Oh, you still can’t see it, can you? Well, let me say this in plain English (or Duck Dynasty-ese, whichever is easier): Red states, you know, the same ones from which the blithering reich-wing, know-nothing's come from? The same ones that accuse the liberals and the liberal states of being greedy moochers from the federal government? Those red states actually receive MORE money in government aid, and give back less to the federal government than blue states do! WOW! Who woulda thunk it? That the conservative, red states, actually receive more money from the federal government than they send to the federal government! WOW!

Now, I'm not making this up, either. I have something very few of you even know exist. They're called, "facts." As of mid-2012, states that are receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid in the United States are:

New Mexico: $2.63
West Virginia: $2.57
Mississippi: $2.47
District of Colombia: $2.41
Hawaii: $2.38
Alabama: $2.03
Alaska: $1.93
Montana: $1.92
South Carolina: $1.92
Maine: $1.78

So 7 of the 9 states listed are Conservative. Now, of course Washington D.C. gets federal money. I’m going to beat the right-wingers and give them the facts (they’ll ignore it anyways as so few know what they look like): D.C. can’t get state money because it’s a city without a state. I know this is very confusing to you conservs, but try to stay with me. Under the U.S. Constitution in Article One Section Eight Paragraph 17 “17 : To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful buildings;”

So, D.C. and those who live there, are, in essence, wards of the Federal Government. This isn't an “excuse,” just a technicality.

Overlooking all 50 states, historically, the 22 states that John McCain won in the 2008 e******n saw that 86 percent of those states received more federal funding, and paid less back in taxes in 2010, when Republicans took back the House. In the same e******n, in which Obama won the presidency, about 55 percent of the states President Obama won had received more federal spending than they paid in taxes. A 31 percent difference between the red states and the blue states. Republican states, on average, have received $1.46 in federal spending for every tax dollar they have paid whereas Democratic states, on average, have received $1.16, a 50 cent difference.

This is all according to the 2010 Census and IRS data reveal of those years, and the Tax Foundation for numbers from 2005 and beyond.

So, wait a minute! Back it up people! Are you actually saying that all of these red state politicians, from the state and the federal level, are nothing but absolute hypocrites who don’t realize that they are only shooting themselves in the foot when they say “CUT, CUT, CUT?” Surely you jest. I was shocked too. Imagine, Republicans being hypocrites? That couldn’t happen!

The rural conservative “taker” phenomenon is blatantly on display, or as what the liberals like to call “red-state socialism”. Urban liberal makers, by contrast, are subsidizing these fiscally “conservative” Republicans. Finally, I can say to a Republican, “STOP TAKING MY HARD EARNED CASH!” Now that the tables have turned, I demand restitution from Republicans and an apology for the invention of the word “libtard.”

And, even the New York Times, came to the rescue of the manipulated reich-wingers in their February 2012 article, by saying that fiscally conservative lawmakers are the ones who do nothing but complain about deficit spending and want cuts to everything, but back at home, their equally conservative constituents don’t want to cut from the Social Security network, their Medicare benefits, etc. However, you ask any conservative, urban or rural, what the federal government needs to cut from, I will bet my life that they’ll tell you we must cut from government programs first.

What they don't realize is, that by cutting the federal budget of its contribution to the various programs, that the revenue must be made up from the state and local levels if the programs are to be continued at current or even reduced levels. While the federal budget may go down, the state and local budgets must go up to compensate for the losses. Once the people realize what they've been led to believe is really hurting themselves, as well as the 47% that they don't consider themselves a part of, the next e******n will see a general house-cleaning of the people who misled their constituents. Again, an apology for the word "libtard" seems to be in order.

Here’s another example (again, using that new word, "facts"): an analysis of fiscal year 2009 funds using the census records, it was found that 31 percent of federal assistance, which totaled up about $446.7 billion, was distributed across the United States. Medicaid funding, for example, was distributed to the states based on the size of their poor populations. Here’s a handy list of the poorest states in 2010 with their median income:

Mississippi – $35,693
Arkansas – $37,987
West Virginia – $39,170
Tennessee – $40,034
South Carolina - $41,548
Montana - $41,587
Kentucky - $41,828
Alabama - $42,144
North Carolina - $42,337
Louisiana – $42,423

During the 2004 e******n, in which conservative crusader George Bush won, of the 32 states that had received more than they contribute, 27 states were red states. Of the 18 states which contribute more than they receive, 14 states were blue states. And, what a surprise; Bush won all of the 27 red states that received more than they gave back, and Kerry won the 14 states that that gave more back than they received.

This has been going on since at least 2004. For the past 10 years, Republicans and conservatives all across the nation have been hounding every liberal they can as being moochers and takers and l***hes. But, all the facts point to the exact opposite!

In retrospect, the top 10 highest net contributors to the federal budget are liberal states. The top ten are:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Illinois
Nevada
Massachusetts
California (the “liberal wasteland” as Conservatives call it)
Colorado
New York

This is not to shame Republicans or Republican states. As moderates and liberals, we look to help those who need it. And, clearly Republicans need it in the worst way. It’s in our belief system that the states or the people of this country who need help should get help. That being said, these "facts" are here to teach Republicans to look in the mirror and quit accusing the liberals of being the things that they, the conservatives, themselves, are. We don’t mind helping you, conservatives. This is what we fight for. We just ask that you wake up and quit accusing us of being what, in fact, you all are, the REAL and original, moochers, takers and leaches.

As Gomer Pyle would say, "Su-prize! Su-prize! Su-prize! Su-prize! Red States Actually Take in More Federal Aid Than Blue States!" Inasmuch as conservatives like to think they have it all figured out, they need to realize that they, themselves, are the ones they're actually fighting against.

The biggest stereotype of a liberal, perpetrated by the right, is that we are all just a bunch of lazy moochers and takers, and that we love to feed off the federal government and the tax-payers. All we do is take take and take and give nothing back .

I do appreciate what you say because much of it is spot on and it does point to blue states supporting the middle class and family wage jobs. It also points out that the Fed is spending way more than it takes in...how long can that go on?

Oh, but wait, conservatives! I think it’s time to get off that righteous rocking-horse of yours and take a good long look into the mirror. Tell me, what do you see? What have you noticed? Open your eyes! Look some more! Focus!

Oh, you still can’t see it, can you? Well, let me say this in plain English (or Duck Dynasty-ese, whichever is easier): Red states, you know, the same ones from which the blithering reich-wing, know-nothing's come from? The same ones that accuse the liberals and the liberal states of being greedy moochers from the federal government? Those red states actually receive MORE money in government aid, and give back less to the federal government than blue states do! WOW! Who woulda thunk it? That the conservative, red states, actually receive more money from the federal government than they send to the federal government! WOW!

Now, I'm not making this up, either. I have something very few of you even know exist. They're called, "facts." As of mid-2012, states that are receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid in the United States are:

New Mexico: $2.63
West Virginia: $2.57
Mississippi: $2.47
District of Colombia: $2.41
Hawaii: $2.38
Alabama: $2.03
Alaska: $1.93
Montana: $1.92
South Carolina: $1.92
Maine: $1.78

So 7 of the 9 states listed are Conservative. Now, of course Washington D.C. gets federal money. I’m going to beat the right-wingers and give them the facts (they’ll ignore it anyways as so few know what they look like): D.C. can’t get state money because it’s a city without a state. I know this is very confusing to you conservs, but try to stay with me. Under the U.S. Constitution in Article One Section Eight Paragraph 17 “17 : To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful buildings;”

So, D.C. and those who live there, are, in essence, wards of the Federal Government. This isn't an “excuse,” just a technicality.

Overlooking all 50 states, historically, the 22 states that John McCain won in the 2008 e******n saw that 86 percent of those states received more federal funding, and paid less back in taxes in 2010, when Republicans took back the House. In the same e******n, in which Obama won the presidency, about 55 percent of the states President Obama won had received more federal spending than they paid in taxes. A 31 percent difference between the red states and the blue states. Republican states, on average, have received $1.46 in federal spending for every tax dollar they have paid whereas Democratic states, on average, have received $1.16, a 50 cent difference.

This is all according to the 2010 Census and IRS data reveal of those years, and the Tax Foundation for numbers from 2005 and beyond.

So, wait a minute! Back it up people! Are you actually saying that all of these red state politicians, from the state and the federal level, are nothing but absolute hypocrites who don’t realize that they are only shooting themselves in the foot when they say “CUT, CUT, CUT?” Surely you jest. I was shocked too. Imagine, Republicans being hypocrites? That couldn’t happen!

The rural conservative “taker” phenomenon is blatantly on display, or as what the liberals like to call “red-state socialism”. Urban liberal makers, by contrast, are subsidizing these fiscally “conservative” Republicans. Finally, I can say to a Republican, “STOP TAKING MY HARD EARNED CASH!” Now that the tables have turned, I demand restitution from Republicans and an apology for the invention of the word “libtard.”

And, even the New York Times, came to the rescue of the manipulated reich-wingers in their February 2012 article, by saying that fiscally conservative lawmakers are the ones who do nothing but complain about deficit spending and want cuts to everything, but back at home, their equally conservative constituents don’t want to cut from the Social Security network, their Medicare benefits, etc. However, you ask any conservative, urban or rural, what the federal government needs to cut from, I will bet my life that they’ll tell you we must cut from government programs first.

What they don't realize is, that by cutting the federal budget of its contribution to the various programs, that the revenue must be made up from the state and local levels if the programs are to be continued at current or even reduced levels. While the federal budget may go down, the state and local budgets must go up to compensate for the losses. Once the people realize what they've been led to believe is really hurting themselves, as well as the 47% that they don't consider themselves a part of, the next e******n will see a general house-cleaning of the people who misled their constituents. Again, an apology for the word "libtard" seems to be in order.

Here’s another example (again, using that new word, "facts"): an analysis of fiscal year 2009 funds using the census records, it was found that 31 percent of federal assistance, which totaled up about $446.7 billion, was distributed across the United States. Medicaid funding, for example, was distributed to the states based on the size of their poor populations. Here’s a handy list of the poorest states in 2010 with their median income:

Mississippi – $35,693
Arkansas – $37,987
West Virginia – $39,170
Tennessee – $40,034
South Carolina - $41,548
Montana - $41,587
Kentucky - $41,828
Alabama - $42,144
North Carolina - $42,337
Louisiana – $42,423

During the 2004 e******n, in which conservative crusader George Bush won, of the 32 states that had received more than they contribute, 27 states were red states. Of the 18 states which contribute more than they receive, 14 states were blue states. And, what a surprise; Bush won all of the 27 red states that received more than they gave back, and Kerry won the 14 states that that gave more back than they received.

This has been going on since at least 2004. For the past 10 years, Republicans and conservatives all across the nation have been hounding every liberal they can as being moochers and takers and l***hes. But, all the facts point to the exact opposite!

In retrospect, the top 10 highest net contributors to the federal budget are liberal states. The top ten are:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Illinois
Nevada
Massachusetts
California (the “liberal wasteland” as Conservatives call it)
Colorado
New York

This is not to shame Republicans or Republican states. As moderates and liberals, we look to help those who need it. And, clearly Republicans need it in the worst way. It’s in our belief system that the states or the people of this country who need help should get help. That being said, these "facts" are here to teach Republicans to look in the mirror and quit accusing the liberals of being the things that they, the conservatives, themselves, are. We don’t mind helping you, conservatives. This is what we fight for. We just ask that you wake up and quit accusing us of being what, in fact, you all are, the REAL and original, moochers, takers and leaches.