MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

The real reason Thomas Jefferson owned a copy of the Quran~

A 232 Year History of our fight against Islam & why it is no longer taught
in our public schools...
When Thomas Jefferson saw there was no negotiating with Muslims, he formed
what is now the Marines (sea going soldiers). These Marines were attached to
U. S. Merchant vessels. When the Muslims attacked U.S. merchant vessels they
were repulsed by armed soldiers, but there is more.


The Marines followed the Muslims back to their villages and k**led every
man, woman, and child in the village. (today we rebuild there roads, cell phones, water
system, electric grid)


It didn't take long for the Muslims to leave U.S. Merchant vessels alone.
English and French merchant vessels started running up our f**g when
entering the Mediterranean to secure safe travel.


Why the Marine Hymn contains the verse, "To the Shores of Tripoli ".
This is very interesting and a must read piece of our history. It points out
where we may be heading.


Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago the
United States had declared war on Islam, and Thomas Jefferson led the
charge!
At the height of the 18th century, Muslim pirates (the "Barbary Pirates")
were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North Atlantic

.
They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant
ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and wrote
heart-breaking letters home, begging their governments and families to pay
wh**ever their Mohammedan captors demanded.
These extortionists of the high seas represented the North African Islamic
nations of Tripoli, Tunis , Morocco , and Algiers - collectively referred to
as the Barbary Coast - and presented a dangerous and unprovoked threat to
the new American Republic .


Before the Revolutionary War, U.S. merchant ships had been under the
protection of Great Britain . When the U.S. declared its independence and
entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France.
However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets.
Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy. Beginning in 1784, 17 years before he
would become president, Thomas Jefferson became America's Minister to
France. That same year, the U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim
adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid
bribes to the Barbary States rather than engaging them in war. (not much change
today)


In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Dye of
Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and simple
case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any
further payments.
Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a coalition of allied
nations who together could force the Islamic states into peace. A
disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom. (sounds like the same people
in congress today)


In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli's ambassador to
Great Britain to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and
ens***ed American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility towards
America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
The two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman
Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that
it was written in their Quran that all nations who would not acknowledge
their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war
upon them wherever they could be found, and to make s***es of all they could
take as prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in
battle was sure to go to Paradise." (same here as well)


Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim
nations, as well as the objections of many notable American leaders,
including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and
would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years, the
u\American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe
passage of American ships or the return of American hostages.
The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to over 20 percent of the United
States government annual revenues in 1800.


Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third
President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a note
demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for every
year forthcoming.
That changed everything.
Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with
his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the f**gpole at the American
consulate and declared war on the United States.
Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers immediately followed suit.
Jefferson, until now, had been against America raising a naval force for
anything beyond coastal defense, but, having watched his nation be cowed by
Islamic thuggery for long enough, decided that it was finally time to meet
force with force.


He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the
Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never
forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all
vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to "cause to be done all other
acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify".
When Algiers and Tunis, who were both accustomed to American cowardice and
acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and
the right to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to
Tripoli.


The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up again in 1815.
The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line "to the
shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Hymn, and they would forever be known as
"leathernecks" for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed to
prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when boarding
enemy ships.
Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their
prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply.
America had a tradition of religious tolerance. In fact Jefferson, himself,
had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but
fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.
A religion based on supremacy, whose holy book not only condoned but
mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him.
His greatest fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose
an even greater threat to the United States .


This should concern every American. That Muslims have brought about
women-only classes and swimming times in America at taxpayer-funded
universities and public pools; that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been
banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged;
Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been banned from workplaces
because they offend Islamist sensibilities; ice cream has been discontinued
at certain Burger King locations because the picture on the wrapper looks
similar to the Arabic script for Allah; public schools are pulling pork from
their menus; on and on and on and on..


It's death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most
Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across
America. By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is
really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our culture,
the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically correct
knife, and helping to further the Islamists' agenda. (seems to be the agenda of
the left)


Sadly, it appears that today America's leaders would rather be politically
correct than victorious!


IF YOU DO NOT REMEMBER THE PAST, YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Great, keep posting it until everyone has read it and passed it along to those who are not on OPP.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

MR>...


How do you find all this silly stuff to post??


I will not bother to go over the intire bunch of bull..

But....

The USMC is older then the United States..

It was formed in a tavern by our well lubed founding fathers..

for good reason..

to defend our merchant ships, not from Muslim but from the British..

who were stopping our ships and removing both cargo and sailors and the basis of unpaid tax to the king..

And our marines did a good job from the git go..

Now your Muslim tale has some t***h...

But those event took place under the president of our nation about 1803 or so.. think his name was Jefferson..

the red strip on the uniform is for the blood which flowed in those shipboard battles..

The leather collar which spawned the name "leather neck" is also sword founded, as it gave some protection, at least in theory from sword strokes..

Semper Fi... Have a nice night..

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The real reason Thomas Jefferson owned a copy of the Quran~

A 232 Year History of our fight against Islam & why it is no longer taught
in our public schools...
When Thomas Jefferson saw there was no negotiating with Muslims, he formed
what is now the Marines (sea going soldiers). These Marines were attached to
U. S. Merchant vessels. When the Muslims attacked U.S. merchant vessels they
were repulsed by armed soldiers, but there is more.


The Marines followed the Muslims back to their villages and k**led every
man, woman, and child in the village. (today we rebuild there roads, cell phones, water
system, electric grid)


It didn't take long for the Muslims to leave U.S. Merchant vessels alone.
English and French merchant vessels started running up our f**g when
entering the Mediterranean to secure safe travel.


Why the Marine Hymn contains the verse, "To the Shores of Tripoli ".
This is very interesting and a must read piece of our history. It points out
where we may be heading.


Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago the
United States had declared war on Islam, and Thomas Jefferson led the
charge!
At the height of the 18th century, Muslim pirates (the "Barbary Pirates")
were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North Atlantic

.
They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant
ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and wrote
heart-breaking letters home, begging their governments and families to pay
wh**ever their Mohammedan captors demanded.
These extortionists of the high seas represented the North African Islamic
nations of Tripoli, Tunis , Morocco , and Algiers - collectively referred to
as the Barbary Coast - and presented a dangerous and unprovoked threat to
the new American Republic .


Before the Revolutionary War, U.S. merchant ships had been under the
protection of Great Britain . When the U.S. declared its independence and
entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France.
However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets.
Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy. Beginning in 1784, 17 years before he
would become president, Thomas Jefferson became America's Minister to
France. That same year, the U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim
adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid
bribes to the Barbary States rather than engaging them in war. (not much change
today)


In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Dye of
Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and simple
case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any
further payments.
Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a coalition of allied
nations who together could force the Islamic states into peace. A
disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom. (sounds like the same people
in congress today)


In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli's ambassador to
Great Britain to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and
ens***ed American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility towards
America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
The two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman
Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that
it was written in their Quran that all nations who would not acknowledge
their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war
upon them wherever they could be found, and to make s***es of all they could
take as prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in
battle was sure to go to Paradise." (same here as well)


Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim
nations, as well as the objections of many notable American leaders,
including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and
would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years, the
u\American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe
passage of American ships or the return of American hostages.
The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to over 20 percent of the United
States government annual revenues in 1800.


Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third
President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a note
demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for every
year forthcoming.
That changed everything.
Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with
his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the f**gpole at the American
consulate and declared war on the United States.
Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers immediately followed suit.
Jefferson, until now, had been against America raising a naval force for
anything beyond coastal defense, but, having watched his nation be cowed by
Islamic thuggery for long enough, decided that it was finally time to meet
force with force.


He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the
Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never
forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all
vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to "cause to be done all other
acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify".
When Algiers and Tunis, who were both accustomed to American cowardice and
acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and
the right to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to
Tripoli.


The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up again in 1815.
The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line "to the
shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Hymn, and they would forever be known as
"leathernecks" for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed to
prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when boarding
enemy ships.
Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their
prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply.
America had a tradition of religious tolerance. In fact Jefferson, himself,
had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but
fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.
A religion based on supremacy, whose holy book not only condoned but
mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him.
His greatest fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose
an even greater threat to the United States .


This should concern every American. That Muslims have brought about
women-only classes and swimming times in America at taxpayer-funded
universities and public pools; that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been
banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged;
Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been banned from workplaces
because they offend Islamist sensibilities; ice cream has been discontinued
at certain Burger King locations because the picture on the wrapper looks
similar to the Arabic script for Allah; public schools are pulling pork from
their menus; on and on and on and on..


It's death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most
Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across
America. By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is
really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our culture,
the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically correct
knife, and helping to further the Islamists' agenda. (seems to be the agenda of
the left)


Sadly, it appears that today America's leaders would rather be politically
correct than victorious!


IF YOU DO NOT REMEMBER THE PAST, YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.

MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

The USMC is older then the United States..
lol lol lol lol

Your teachers are hiding the fact they taught you.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I am not really disputing your post, I only want the time line of my Marine Corps to be correct..

a quick history from wikipedia... you can find many other articles on the history with a short search..


History of the United States Marine Corps
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The f**g of the United States Marine Corps from 1914 to 1939.

U.S. Marines with the 1st Marine Division display Japanese f**gs captured during the Battle of Cape Gloucester
The history of the United States Marine Corps (USMC) begins with the founding of the Continental Marines on 10 November 1775 to conduct ship-to-ship fighting, provide shipboard security and discipline enforcement, and assist in landing forces. Its mission evolved with changing military doctrine and foreign policy of the United States. Owing to the availability of Marine forces at sea, the United States Marine Corps has served in nearly every conflict in United States history. It attained prominence when its theories and practice of amphibious warfare proved prescient, and ultimately formed a cornerstone of the Pacific Theater of World War II. By the early 20th century, the Marine Corps would become one of the dominant theorists and practitioners of amphibious warfare. Its ability to rapidly respond on short notice to expeditionary crises has made and continues to make it an important tool for U.S. foreign policy.[1]

In February 1776, the Continental Marines embarked on their maiden expedition.[2] The Continental Marines were disbanded at the end of the war, along with the Continental Navy.[3] In pr********n for the Quasi-War with France, Congress created the United States Navy and the Marine Corps. The Marines' most famous action of this period occurred in the First Barbary War (1801–1805) against the Barbary pirates. In the Mexican–American War (1846–1848), the Marines made their famed assault on Chapultepec Palace, which overlooked Mexico City, their first major expeditionary venture. In the 1850s, the Marines would see service in Panama, and in Asia. During the U.S. Civil War (1861–1865) the Marine Corps played only a minor role after their participation in the Union defeat at the first battle of First Bull Run/Manassas.[4] Their most important task was blockade duty and other ship-board battles, but they were mobilized for a handful of operations as the war progressed. The remainder of the 19th century would be a period of declining strength and introspection about the mission of the Marine Corps. Under Commandant Jacob Zeilin's term (1864–1876), many Marine customs and traditions took shape. During the Spanish–American War (1898), Marines would lead U.S. forces ashore in the Philippines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico, demonstrating their readiness for deployment. Between 1900 and 1916, the Marine Corps continued its record of participation in foreign expeditions, especially in the Caribbean and Central and South America, which included Panama, Cuba, Veracruz, Haiti, Santo Domingo, and Nicaragua.

In World War I, battle-tested, veteran Marines served a central role in the United States' entry into the conflict. Between the world wars, the Marine Corps was headed by Major General John A. Lejeune, another popular commandant. In World War II, the Marines played a central role, under Admiral Nimitz, in the Pacific War, participating in nearly every significant battle. The Corps also saw its peak growth as it expanded from two brigades to two corps with six divisions, and five air wings with 132 squadrons. During the Battle of Iwo Jima, photographer Joe Rosenthal took the famous photo Raising of the F**g on Iwo Jima of five Marines and one naval corpsman raising a U.S. f**g on Mount Suribachi. The Korean War (1950–1953) saw the 1st Provisional Marine Brigade holding the line at the Battle of Pusan Perimeter, where Marine helicopters (VMO-6 flying the HO3S1 helicopter) made their combat debut. The Marines also played an important role in the Vietnam War at battles such as Da Nang, Huế, and Khe Sanh. The Marines operated in the northern I Corps regions of South Vietnam and fought both a constant guerilla war against the Viet Cong and an off and on conventional war against North Vietnamese Army regulars. Marines went to Beirut during the 1982 Lebanon War on 24 August. On 23 October 1983, the Marine barracks in Beirut was bombed, causing the highest peacetime losses to the Corps in its history. Marines were also responsible for liberating Kuwait during the Gulf War (1990–1991), as the Army made an attack to the west directly into Iraq.[5] The I Marine Expeditionary Force had a strength of 92,990 making Operation Desert Storm the largest Marine Corps operation in history.

MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

Do you know I can go into Wikipedia and edit it?

MR Mister Loc: Washington DC

Seems your education of America history was remiss.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

HA HA HA..>>... And I bet that would be one of your greatest accomplishments..

Yes, we can all do that.. if you are going sideways and accusing me of doing so, I suggest that you have a look on your own and see for yourself..

so.. NO; i did not do that..

Nice day up here for me.. hope you are having a fine weekend..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

In what way?? Do you have a point that you feel you can challenge?

A great uncle 11 removed likes wood carving

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Great post frosty on a refresher course in USMC history for me. Thanks~

permafrost Loc: Minnesota