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Fed. Commission Finds 42% of Federal Crimes Committed by I******s
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May 23, 2019 10:35:56   #
Pariahjf
 
Agreed. But the numbers that are reported here are twisted. 42 is less than 58.... Simple math.

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May 23, 2019 14:56:39   #
Oldsalt
 
So if we defend our borders with force of arms against foreign invaders they cease to be repeat offenders and become fertilizer. We then do not have to support their lifestyle here in America, there is no damage to our culture, our children’s schools improve, and our public medical costs go down. Defending our boarders with force of arms is a win, win situation. I know several patriots that will volunteer a week or two at a time.

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May 23, 2019 15:15:17   #
Ricktloml
 
SinnieK wrote:
No, it just shows that the illegal's commit more crimes comparing to the percentage of the population which is very bad. 90% of population commit 58% of the crimes verse 10% of the population commit 42% of the crimes which is very high, sum it up illegal's are bad for the country just for crimes alone then taxpayers have to pay for the cost of their living, healthcare, education and more.

Illegal's cost taxpayers over $100 billions yearly and what we get in return is tenth million of v**es for democrats on e******n day.
No, it just shows that the illegal's commit more c... (show quote)


This article disputes the false claim that i*****l a***ns commit less crime than American citizens.

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May 23, 2019 15:23:02   #
Pariahjf
 
58% is still greater than 42% no matter which way you slice it. Numbers don't lie.

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May 23, 2019 16:19:08   #
dongreen76
 
Pariahjf wrote:
So explain Air America, the crack epidemic committed by the CIA, and the pharmaceutical companies in America....


.....of course they are not part of the stat. Undoubtedly the CIA,and the pharmaceutical companies would deny this, being a party to the opioid problem that is ,and of course are not i******s. Is that a good enough explanation for you.?

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May 23, 2019 16:24:19   #
Pariahjf
 
I will accept it as a statement, not a factual explanation.

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May 23, 2019 16:45:17   #
dongreen76
 
Pariahjf wrote:
I will accept it as a statement, not a factual explanation.


Why won't you accept that as a factual explanation,you made the allegation.Was the allegation true or not,if not ?why did you allege it.Why won't except the FACT that the CIA are not i*****l i*******ts,Why won't you except the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are American based,and you can tell they are by the high cost of their product.and the wreckless zealousness,and the blatant dis-regard for the health and better welfare of the consumers whom purchase their product in lieu of turning a profit,after all , that's very American.Why would you not except that explanation.

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May 23, 2019 16:59:48   #
Pariahjf
 
I do. They are the problem with the flow of drugs into the country, not i*****l a***ns. They can't manufacture without those chemicals, so they will get them any way they can.

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May 23, 2019 19:24:44   #
dongreen76
 
Pariahjf wrote:
I do. They are the problem with the flow of drugs into the country, not i*****l a***ns. They can't manufacture without those chemicals, so they will get them any way they can.

We have DE'TENTE !! now if only the Dem's and the Repub's can do the same

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May 24, 2019 06:29:18   #
Oldsalt
 
Pariahjf wrote:
58% is still greater than 42% no matter which way you slice it. Numbers don't lie.


42% of Fedral crimes committed by 7% of the population. That’s the concept they are trying to show you. It’s not 42% vs 58%, it’s 42% of the total Fedral crimes committed by 7% of the population.

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May 24, 2019 09:08:30   #
Pariahjf
 
So who's committing the other 58%???

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May 24, 2019 09:20:19   #
Oldsalt
 
Pariahjf wrote:
So who's committing the other 58%???


The other 93% of the population. What is trying to be put forward is that a very small portion of the general leagal and illegal portion of the population are committing a very large portion of the overall crime. Do you not understand this? The author is trying to show you just how bad unchecked foreign invasion is on our society. This is in cultural change, and monitory costs. Keep in mind that for every foreigner that we incarcerate we also have to provide them with legal counsel and social services for the defendants they leave outside of the prison walls.

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May 24, 2019 09:29:52   #
Pariahjf
 
Not true----the other 93% of the population is not committing the other 58% of crimes. Just like with the i******s, it's a small percentage of the overall population. Are you committing crimes? Neither am I, so that's a false statement. Most people don't commit crimes.

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May 24, 2019 09:33:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
SinnieK wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/fed-commission-finds-42-federal-crimes-committed-i******s/

Are i*****l a***ns just good people searching for a better life, or criminals who bring problems over the border?

That question has been at the core of the immigration debate for years. As with most things, the answer is somewhere in the middle … but an eye-opening new report makes it clear that i*****l i*******ts commit far more crimes than many on the left would have you believe.

The United States Sentencing Commission has released its annual report, which digs deep into federal crime data for the 2018 fiscal year. This report is a goldmine of information about offenders at the federal level — and it contains a fact that needs to be seen by every American concerned about immigration.

“For 2017, data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey shows non-citizens comprise about 7 percent of the country’s population, but the 2018 Annual Report and Sourcebook of Federal Sentencing Statistics shows they committed more than 40 percent of all federal crimes,” The American Mirror noted.

Indeed, Hispanics are dramatically over-represented in the federal sentencing data, with i*****l i*********n a major reason.

“In fiscal year 2018, 54.3 percent of all offenders were Hispanic, 21.2 percent were White, 20.6 percent were Black, and 3.8 percent were of another race. Non-U.S. Citizens accounted for 42.7 percent of all federal offenders,” the government report said.

“Immigration cases accounted for the largest single group of offenses in fiscal year 2018, comprising 34.4 percent of all reported cases,” the government document continued.

Of course, a skeptic might point out that this by itself isn’t so surprising. I*****l i*********n is a federal crime and widespread, so it makes sense that aliens — many of them Hispanic — receive a high number of federal sentences.

But the numbers show deeply disturbing trends.

It isn’t just that aliens are being prosecuted for immigration crimes. Actually, they are also committing many other crimes at an alarming rate.

“Cases involving drug possession, for example, were nearly evenly split between citizens and non-citizens with 361 and 339, respectively,” The American Mirror noted. But remember, non-citizens are only about 7 percent of the population.

“In other words, non-citizens violated federal drug possession laws at a rate roughly seven times higher than citizens,” [emphasis added] the outlet wrote.

We already know that drug crimes are common near the border, but what do the numbers say about i*****l i*******ts and other offenses? It’s the same story: They commit crimes in numbers far above what you’d expect from the population data.

“Statistics were similar for violations of national defense, with 30 percent of cases involving non-citizens, as well as money laundering at 27 percent, drug trafficking at 24 percent and murder at 18 percent,” The American Mirror wrote based on the government report.

And even in the cases when a non-citizen’s only crime was i*****l i*********n, it appears that a high number of them were repeat offenders. At the federal level, crossing the border illegally the first time is a misdemeanor and rarely results in jail time. It is repeatedly re-entering illegally that becomes a felony, punishable by prison.

Yet a shockingly high number of non-citizens were sentenced to prison, which indicates that they were either repeat offenders or committed more serious crimes while also being in the country illegally.

“In the vast majority of cases involving both citizens and non-citizens – 87.8 percent – the offenders were sentenced to prison,” American Mirror wrote. “For the roughly 29,000 non-citizens convicted of federal crimes in fiscal year 2018, that statistic was 98.5 percent, according to the report.”

What these numbers suggest is that conservatives have been mostly correct on this issue. Even if you set aside the immigration-only offenses, the high rate of lawlessness from noncitizens should be eye-opening.

And it is legal immigrants, including Latinos, who ought to be the most frustrated by this situation. People who ignore America’s laws have spiked the statistics to make Hispanics the majority of all federal criminals, tarnishing the reputation of millions of lawful immigrants who try to do the right thing.

Something needs to change. There is indeed a crisis at the border and with immigration as a whole — and pretending otherwise is simply dishonest.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/fed-commission-f... (show quote)


These numbers have always been, they were just hidden or obstructed inability to determine in the prior administration. They didn’t want these numbers known and look what it has brought about.

Drastic change is needed and it’s needed now not later as we all now.

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May 24, 2019 09:41:06   #
Pariahjf
 
So what percentage of the legal population are committing the other 58% of federal crimes? That's the number we need to know so that we can make a fair evaluation of the situation.

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