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May 22, 2019 08:38:03   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
That has been my impression so far...

And I know these aren't his own words...

And I didn't actually v**e for Trump (for obvious reasons) But I would have..

Good to hear from you Arch...

We should get a game going some time soon... My backhand has improved dramatically...
That has been my impression so far... br br And ... (show quote)



Sounds like a serious game of Poker
to have a practiced backhand...
must have learned that in China! (LOL)

SEMPER FI

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May 22, 2019 08:51:25   #
Snoopy
 
permafrost wrote:
from quara....an opinion like mine..


Trump was that bad before he was President
He was that bad before he was on television.
He was that bad before he sold steaks.
Before Melania and before his kids.
Before almost anything, for his whole life.

Trump has pretty much been human garbage since apparently at least his time at college. And yes, he will die as human garbage and there’s really nothing he can do in this life at this point to repair the fact.

What, pray tell, is there about Donald Trump that is good? Is it how he managed his father’s slums, or maybe how he lied his way out of military service in Vietnam? Is it how he hung out with mob lawyers? Stepped up and cut his siblings out of his father’s fortune? Is it how he refused to help his brother the drug addict, then also refused to aid that brother’s widow? Is it his many, many affairs while married? Is it how he “grabs women by the pussy,” then forces them to kiss him, “because they won’t do anything about it?” Mocking the disabled? Attacking decorated military veterans for their service? Pardoning war criminals? All the “Very Best People” - about half of them indicted for crimes or already going to prison?

Tell me, how does anyone perceive Trump as good?

No, don’t tell me how bad Hillary is or how bad Obama was. I don’t care.

Republicans had other people I would disagree but not regard as antithetical to basic components of humanity and decency and they passed. Instead, they v**ed for Trump. So really, it’s not just that Trump is bad, it’s that you’re all complicit that v**ed for him. He’s human garbage, and you’re eating him up. So sure, I guess it’s not so bad… if you’re a terrible human being. But I’m not. I’m not the nicest or best person I know or can conceive of, but I’m better than you folks that v**ed for Trump. 100%.
from quara....an opinion like mine.. br br br Tr... (show quote)


Perma:

I notice you “don’t care” what Obama or Hillary did/could/wanted to do!!

Ever hear the quote “lesser or 2 evils”?

Snoopy

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May 22, 2019 09:01:24   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
archie bunker wrote:
Nah! Permi would have a beer with you, and enjoy it. He might b***h the whole time, but he would enjoy it!


As long as he wasn't buying🤠

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May 22, 2019 16:58:42   #
moldyoldy
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Intellectual Poverty on the Left
Arrogance is no substitute for intellectual humility.
by Ron Ross
May 21, 2019, 12:06 AM

You may have noticed that conservatives are blessed with an impressive lineup of intellectual heavyweights. Liberals have none, literally none. A few of those on the conservative side are Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Dennis Prager, Shelby Steele, Jordon Peterson, and Mark Levin.

Thomas Sowell is an economist, ex-Marine, Hoover Institution scholar, and the author of over 30 books. If you’ve never read one you don’t know what you’re missing. Two of his classics are Knowledge and Decisions and The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy. He is well known for his many pearls of wisdom which he terms, “random thoughts on the passing scene.” Those now can be found on Twitter.

Jordon Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and Hillsdale College. He is best known for his book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Several million copies have been sold. It was even a number-one bestseller in Sweden. If you read that book you will understand life better, and if you follow the rules you will be a better person. The book is nothing short of a masterpiece.

Jordan Peterson is possibly the wisest man alive. Fortunately for the rest of us he shares his wisdom through his books, interviews, podcasts, and seminars. Peterson is despised by the left. That says much more about them than him.

Besides his columns, daily radio show, and books, Dennis Prager is the founder and frequent contributor to Prager University. Prager U presents concise, thoughtful five-minute lectures on a weekly basis, and recently reached a milestone of two billion views. His latest book is The Rational Bible: Genesis.

Victor Davis Hanson is a former professor of classical Greek history and is also a scholar at the Hoover Institution. He writes columns usually once or twice a week and appears on Fox News about as often. The amount of logic and historical perspective he includes in his columns is mind-boggling. His latest book is The Case for Trump.

Mark Levin is founder of the Landmark Legal Foundation, the author of several best-selling books, host of a daily radio show and a weekly hour-long interview show on Fox News. His just published book, Unfreedom of the Press, is the number one best seller on Amazon. Levin never leaves you wondering what he believes.

Shelby Steele is another scholar at the Hoover Institution and the author of The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race in America, and Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country. His essays appear regularly on the Wall Street Journal op-ed pages.

You cannot name a single liberal who has anything approaching the above credentials or intellectual output. Why? There are a number of reasons.

Liberalism is fundamentally about feelings rather than thoughts. Also the left focuses on intentions, the right focuses on results and the ways by which results are achieved.

An advantage of making intentions your goal is that once you choose and announce them, you’re done. No need to follow up to see if your intentions were realized. No need to consider second or third order effects.

Leftism is about force, conservatism is about freedom and voluntary exchange. The use of force needs no theory or ideology. Anyone willing to rely on force to accomplish his or her objectives doesn’t really need to understand how the world works.

The mindset of the writers listed above reflects what is written in Ecclesiastes, “And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven… and I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly.”

The foremost source of the left’s intellectual poverty is arrogance. Arrogance k**ls curiosity. Those on the left feel they already know all they need to know. They have nothing left to learn or to bother thinking deeply about. Ironically, they feel intellectually superior to conservatives.

A prerequisite for being a serious thinker is curiosity. It requires being curious about how things work — society, the economy, human nature, for example. Curiosity is the incentive for doing the hard work of study and serious thought.

The left also feels morally superior to any of our predecessors. Conservatives, on the other hand, possess a deep respect and reverence for the wisdom we’ve inherited from, for example, the Greeks, the Bible, Shakespeare, and the Founding Fathers.

Isaac Newton famously said, “If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Even Newton needed to know what those preceding him had discovered. On the left there’s no gratitude for the wisdom endowed to us by our forebears. Rather than gratitude there’s disdain, another reflection of their arrogance.

The opposite of arrogance is humility. As Isaac Newton also recognized, “What we know is a drop, what we don’t know is an ocean.”

A 2018 study reported in the Journal of Positive Psychology entitled “Links Between Intellectual Humility and Acquiring Knowledge” found that Intellectual humility (IH)

was associated with a variety of characteristics associated with knowledge acquisition, including reflective thinking, need for cognition, intellectual engagement, curiosity, intellectual openness, and open-minded thinking.… These links may help explain the observed relationship between IH and possessing more knowledge.

The entire study, by Elizabeth Krumrei-Mancuso, Megan Haggard et al., is worth reading.

As long as the left holds on to its arrogance it will never match the richness of the right’s intellectual offerings. It’s another reason why being a conservative is a whole lot more fun than being a liberal.
b Intellectual Poverty on the Left /b br Arrogan... (show quote)


Anti science, anti intellectual, GOP party, that wants to return to the 1700s. Your rant does not compute.

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May 22, 2019 17:03:26   #
moldyoldy
 
Snoopy wrote:
Perma:

I notice you “don’t care” what Obama or Hillary did/could/wanted to do!!

Ever hear the quote “lesser or 2 evils”?

Snoopy




Do you believe Hillary Clinton would have been a better president to this point in her term?

Harriet Stanton-Leaffer, former Syndication Sales Rep, Computer Data Specialist at The New York Times (1976-1994)

Hillary Clinton has a BA from Wellesly and a law degree from Yale. She spent her college years volunteering for Republican candidates and working to improve the lives of minorities. She left the Republican party because they weren’t doing enough for the poor. She was First Lady, then a Senator from New York and then Obama’s Secretary of State. She was a premier lawyer, breaking glass ceilings, and becoming a partner in a major law firm. Academically and on the intelligence scale, she surpasses Donald Trump by light years. She understands government, and has worked across the aisle. Clinton introduced 713 pieces of legislation, of which 363 were Senate bills while the balance consisted of amendments or resolutions. In addition Clinton was listed as a co-sponsor on 74 bills that became law.
Her qualifications and experience for the job of President are unmatched by any previous candidate. She accomplished everything while being endlessly investigated by Republicans wanting to destroy her. They failed but they kept on because they knew that just investigating her would damage her. They were successful in swaying uninformed v**ers. The B******i investigation was fraudulent, and she had no decision making power in the uranium deal. Google these if you want details. People with a bias against women in leadership believed the lies because they wanted to. Yes, I think we would be far better off if Hillary Clinton was our President.

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May 22, 2019 17:22:13   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Do you believe Hillary Clinton would have been a better president to this point in her term?


No

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May 22, 2019 17:30:17   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Intellectual Poverty on the Left
Arrogance is no substitute for intellectual humility.
by Ron Ross
May 21, 2019, 12:06 AM

You may have noticed that conservatives are blessed with an impressive lineup of intellectual heavyweights. Liberals have none, literally none. A few of those on the conservative side are Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Dennis Prager, Shelby Steele, Jordon Peterson, and Mark Levin.

Thomas Sowell is an economist, ex-Marine, Hoover Institution scholar, and the author of over 30 books. If you’ve never read one you don’t know what you’re missing. Two of his classics are Knowledge and Decisions and The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy. He is well known for his many pearls of wisdom which he terms, “random thoughts on the passing scene.” Those now can be found on Twitter.

Jordon Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and Hillsdale College. He is best known for his book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Several million copies have been sold. It was even a number-one bestseller in Sweden. If you read that book you will understand life better, and if you follow the rules you will be a better person. The book is nothing short of a masterpiece.

Jordan Peterson is possibly the wisest man alive. Fortunately for the rest of us he shares his wisdom through his books, interviews, podcasts, and seminars. Peterson is despised by the left. That says much more about them than him.

Besides his columns, daily radio show, and books, Dennis Prager is the founder and frequent contributor to Prager University. Prager U presents concise, thoughtful five-minute lectures on a weekly basis, and recently reached a milestone of two billion views. His latest book is The Rational Bible: Genesis.

Victor Davis Hanson is a former professor of classical Greek history and is also a scholar at the Hoover Institution. He writes columns usually once or twice a week and appears on Fox News about as often. The amount of logic and historical perspective he includes in his columns is mind-boggling. His latest book is The Case for Trump.

Mark Levin is founder of the Landmark Legal Foundation, the author of several best-selling books, host of a daily radio show and a weekly hour-long interview show on Fox News. His just published book, Unfreedom of the Press, is the number one best seller on Amazon. Levin never leaves you wondering what he believes.

Shelby Steele is another scholar at the Hoover Institution and the author of The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race in America, and Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country. His essays appear regularly on the Wall Street Journal op-ed pages.

You cannot name a single liberal who has anything approaching the above credentials or intellectual output. Why? There are a number of reasons.

Liberalism is fundamentally about feelings rather than thoughts. Also the left focuses on intentions, the right focuses on results and the ways by which results are achieved.

An advantage of making intentions your goal is that once you choose and announce them, you’re done. No need to follow up to see if your intentions were realized. No need to consider second or third order effects.

Leftism is about force, conservatism is about freedom and voluntary exchange. The use of force needs no theory or ideology. Anyone willing to rely on force to accomplish his or her objectives doesn’t really need to understand how the world works.

The mindset of the writers listed above reflects what is written in Ecclesiastes, “And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven… and I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly.”

The foremost source of the left’s intellectual poverty is arrogance. Arrogance k**ls curiosity. Those on the left feel they already know all they need to know. They have nothing left to learn or to bother thinking deeply about. Ironically, they feel intellectually superior to conservatives.

A prerequisite for being a serious thinker is curiosity. It requires being curious about how things work — society, the economy, human nature, for example. Curiosity is the incentive for doing the hard work of study and serious thought.

The left also feels morally superior to any of our predecessors. Conservatives, on the other hand, possess a deep respect and reverence for the wisdom we’ve inherited from, for example, the Greeks, the Bible, Shakespeare, and the Founding Fathers.

Isaac Newton famously said, “If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Even Newton needed to know what those preceding him had discovered. On the left there’s no gratitude for the wisdom endowed to us by our forebears. Rather than gratitude there’s disdain, another reflection of their arrogance.

The opposite of arrogance is humility. As Isaac Newton also recognized, “What we know is a drop, what we don’t know is an ocean.”

A 2018 study reported in the Journal of Positive Psychology entitled “Links Between Intellectual Humility and Acquiring Knowledge” found that Intellectual humility (IH)

was associated with a variety of characteristics associated with knowledge acquisition, including reflective thinking, need for cognition, intellectual engagement, curiosity, intellectual openness, and open-minded thinking.… These links may help explain the observed relationship between IH and possessing more knowledge.

The entire study, by Elizabeth Krumrei-Mancuso, Megan Haggard et al., is worth reading.

As long as the left holds on to its arrogance it will never match the richness of the right’s intellectual offerings. It’s another reason why being a conservative is a whole lot more fun than being a liberal.
b Intellectual Poverty on the Left /b br Arrogan... (show quote)



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May 22, 2019 18:54:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Anti science, anti intellectual, GOP party, that wants to return to the 1700s. Your rant does not compute.
Traditionalists focus on the past, existentialists focus on the present, Utopianists focus on the future. I don't have a clue where the establishment GOP stands, but as an American conservative, I love science when it is applied for the benefit of mankind.

There are fundamental t***hs of life that are immutable, eternal. The Constitution of the United States embodies the spirit of those fundamental t***hs, like the Alpha and Omega of life itself.

BTW: That wasn't a rant, and it certainly does compute. Takes an intellectual to understand that.

Is that intellectual enough for you?

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May 22, 2019 19:54:01   #
moldyoldy
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Traditionalists focus on the past, existentialists focus on the present, Utopianists focus on the future. I don't have a clue where the establishment GOP stands, but as an American conservative, I love science when it is applied for the benefit of mankind.

There are fundamental t***hs of life that are immutable, eternal. The Constitution of the United States embodies the spirit of those fundamental t***hs, like the Alpha and Omega of life itself.

BTW: That wasn't a rant, and it certainly does compute. Takes an intellectual to understand that.

Is that intellectual enough for you?
Traditionalists focus on the past, existentialists... (show quote)


They allow amendments to the constitution because times change and updates are required.

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May 22, 2019 20:47:51   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
They allow amendments to the constitution because times change and updates are required.
You gave us the impression that you were an intellectual. What happened?

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May 22, 2019 21:31:25   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You gave us the impression that you were an intellectual. What happened?


Sorry, I was never under that impression.

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May 22, 2019 22:18:50   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
archie bunker wrote:
Sorry, I was never under that impression.



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May 22, 2019 23:41:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
archie bunker wrote:
Sorry, I was never under that impression.
'Twas a rhetorical question, arch.

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May 23, 2019 01:14:09   #
Seth
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Intellectual Poverty on the Left
Arrogance is no substitute for intellectual humility.
by Ron Ross
May 21, 2019, 12:06 AM

You may have noticed that conservatives are blessed with an impressive lineup of intellectual heavyweights. Liberals have none, literally none. A few of those on the conservative side are Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Dennis Prager, Shelby Steele, Jordon Peterson, and Mark Levin.

Thomas Sowell is an economist, ex-Marine, Hoover Institution scholar, and the author of over 30 books. If you’ve never read one you don’t know what you’re missing. Two of his classics are Knowledge and Decisions and The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy. He is well known for his many pearls of wisdom which he terms, “random thoughts on the passing scene.” Those now can be found on Twitter.

Jordon Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto and Hillsdale College. He is best known for his book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Several million copies have been sold. It was even a number-one bestseller in Sweden. If you read that book you will understand life better, and if you follow the rules you will be a better person. The book is nothing short of a masterpiece.

Jordan Peterson is possibly the wisest man alive. Fortunately for the rest of us he shares his wisdom through his books, interviews, podcasts, and seminars. Peterson is despised by the left. That says much more about them than him.

Besides his columns, daily radio show, and books, Dennis Prager is the founder and frequent contributor to Prager University. Prager U presents concise, thoughtful five-minute lectures on a weekly basis, and recently reached a milestone of two billion views. His latest book is The Rational Bible: Genesis.

Victor Davis Hanson is a former professor of classical Greek history and is also a scholar at the Hoover Institution. He writes columns usually once or twice a week and appears on Fox News about as often. The amount of logic and historical perspective he includes in his columns is mind-boggling. His latest book is The Case for Trump.

Mark Levin is founder of the Landmark Legal Foundation, the author of several best-selling books, host of a daily radio show and a weekly hour-long interview show on Fox News. His just published book, Unfreedom of the Press, is the number one best seller on Amazon. Levin never leaves you wondering what he believes.

Shelby Steele is another scholar at the Hoover Institution and the author of The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race in America, and Shame: How America’s Past Sins Have Polarized Our Country. His essays appear regularly on the Wall Street Journal op-ed pages.

You cannot name a single liberal who has anything approaching the above credentials or intellectual output. Why? There are a number of reasons.

Liberalism is fundamentally about feelings rather than thoughts. Also the left focuses on intentions, the right focuses on results and the ways by which results are achieved.

An advantage of making intentions your goal is that once you choose and announce them, you’re done. No need to follow up to see if your intentions were realized. No need to consider second or third order effects.

Leftism is about force, conservatism is about freedom and voluntary exchange. The use of force needs no theory or ideology. Anyone willing to rely on force to accomplish his or her objectives doesn’t really need to understand how the world works.

The mindset of the writers listed above reflects what is written in Ecclesiastes, “And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven… and I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly.”

The foremost source of the left’s intellectual poverty is arrogance. Arrogance k**ls curiosity. Those on the left feel they already know all they need to know. They have nothing left to learn or to bother thinking deeply about. Ironically, they feel intellectually superior to conservatives.

A prerequisite for being a serious thinker is curiosity. It requires being curious about how things work — society, the economy, human nature, for example. Curiosity is the incentive for doing the hard work of study and serious thought.

The left also feels morally superior to any of our predecessors. Conservatives, on the other hand, possess a deep respect and reverence for the wisdom we’ve inherited from, for example, the Greeks, the Bible, Shakespeare, and the Founding Fathers.

Isaac Newton famously said, “If I have seen further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Even Newton needed to know what those preceding him had discovered. On the left there’s no gratitude for the wisdom endowed to us by our forebears. Rather than gratitude there’s disdain, another reflection of their arrogance.

The opposite of arrogance is humility. As Isaac Newton also recognized, “What we know is a drop, what we don’t know is an ocean.”

A 2018 study reported in the Journal of Positive Psychology entitled “Links Between Intellectual Humility and Acquiring Knowledge” found that Intellectual humility (IH)

was associated with a variety of characteristics associated with knowledge acquisition, including reflective thinking, need for cognition, intellectual engagement, curiosity, intellectual openness, and open-minded thinking.… These links may help explain the observed relationship between IH and possessing more knowledge.

The entire study, by Elizabeth Krumrei-Mancuso, Megan Haggard et al., is worth reading.

As long as the left holds on to its arrogance it will never match the richness of the right’s intellectual offerings. It’s another reason why being a conservative is a whole lot more fun than being a liberal.
b Intellectual Poverty on the Left /b br Arrogan... (show quote)


Permafrost needs to read Vision of the Anointed while looking in the mirror. Might do him some good.

Then again, I haven't heard that a cure has yet been found for TDS, and after his above post, I think he's got it pretty bad.

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May 23, 2019 01:24:57   #
EconomistDon
 
permafrost wrote:
from quara....an opinion like mine..


Trump was that bad before he was President
He was that bad before he was on television.
He was that bad before he sold steaks.
Before Melania and before his kids.
Before almost anything, for his whole life.

Trump has pretty much been human garbage since apparently at least his time at college. And yes, he will die as human garbage and there’s really nothing he can do in this life at this point to repair the fact.

What, pray tell, is there about Donald Trump that is good? Is it how he managed his father’s slums, or maybe how he lied his way out of military service in Vietnam? Is it how he hung out with mob lawyers? Stepped up and cut his siblings out of his father’s fortune? Is it how he refused to help his brother the drug addict, then also refused to aid that brother’s widow? Is it his many, many affairs while married? Is it how he “grabs women by the pussy,” then forces them to kiss him, “because they won’t do anything about it?” Mocking the disabled? Attacking decorated military veterans for their service? Pardoning war criminals? All the “Very Best People” - about half of them indicted for crimes or already going to prison?

Tell me, how does anyone perceive Trump as good?

No, don’t tell me how bad Hillary is or how bad Obama was. I don’t care.

Republicans had other people I would disagree but not regard as antithetical to basic components of humanity and decency and they passed. Instead, they v**ed for Trump. So really, it’s not just that Trump is bad, it’s that you’re all complicit that v**ed for him. He’s human garbage, and you’re eating him up. So sure, I guess it’s not so bad… if you’re a terrible human being. But I’m not. I’m not the nicest or best person I know or can conceive of, but I’m better than you folks that v**ed for Trump. 100%.
from quara....an opinion like mine.. br br br Tr... (show quote)


Wh**ever Trump is, he is doing a magnificent job running the country. And I am very happy about that. I'm sorry that your Trump Derangement Syndrome has you blinded and that you sucker for every lie spewed by the l*****t media. But you are just going to have to get used to peace, prosperity, and America's newfound greatness. Six more years is a long time for you to stew in your current deranged h**e.

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