fullspinzoo

On the other hand, you can't knock bigger supporters like Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Laura. They are in Trump's corner 100%. I haven't seen anybody that works so hard for the Trump cause as those 3. Maybe Rush. ONN is that the network Eric Bolling is on? Watched this guy for ten minutes and then realized it was Eric who I liked a lot on "the Five". Besides, he was on the "Floor" for commodities or 'stock exchange related'. Got in trouble with some personal stuff, but backs Trump also 100%. Sunday nights but wonder if it was ONN? Figured out Bolling is doing a new show "America This Week".

bahmer

Amen and Amen

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

A very bad failure indeed,, but clearly not an Idea that originated with the Obama adminestration..

It should have been run much better and the hands on ATF managers need much more oversight..

Lot more information on this wiki site.. have a look if you wish..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5] in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them".[6] These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[7] The Jacob Chambers Case began in October 2009 and eventually became known in February 2010 as "Operation Fast and Furious" after agents discovered Chambers and the other suspects under investigation belonged to a car club.[1]

The stated goal of allowing these purchases was to continue to track the firearms as they were t***sferred to higher-level traffickers and key figures in Mexican cartels, with the expectation that this would lead to their arrests and the dismantling of the cartels.[6][8][9] The tactic was questioned during the operations by a number of people, including ATF field agents and cooperating licensed gun dealers.[10][11][12][13] During Operation Fast and Furious, the largest "gunwalking" probe, the ATF monitored the sale of about 2,000[1]:203[14] firearms, of which only 710 were recovered as of February 2012.[1]:203 A number of straw purchasers have been arrested and indicted; however, as of October 2011, none of the targeted high-level cartel figures had been arrested.[6]

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Radiance,

everything you believe must come from a comic book.. all very very wrong..

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/mar/23/blog-posting/former-first-grandma-marian-robinson-caught-anothe/


Former ‘First Grandma’ Marian Robinson caught up in another f**e news h**x
By Joshua Gillin on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017 at 10:31 a.m.

Former First Grandma Marian Robinson just can’t catch a break from f**e news.

First Michelle Obama’s mother was wrongly accused in f**e stories of drawing a federal pension for taking care of grandchildren Sasha and Malia. Now she’s the victim of a new round of false reports that claim she’s being charged with a crime for doing so since former President Barack Obama left office.

"Obama’s mother-in-law charged with larceny and fraud," reads the headline on several Internet posts that started appearing on or after March 16, 2017. The posts all read roughly the same, claiming that Robinson was charged "for accepting money from the federal government under false pretenses."

The story stokes reader ire by admonishing Robinson for attempting to take money she didn’t deserve.

"While it may not have been her idea to ask for a $160K pension for being the Obama daughters’ ‘caretaker,’ she was the one who filled out the paperwork and signed her name," the posts read.

Several of these links were f**gged by Facebook users for being potentially f**e, as part of the social media company’s efforts to prune f**e news from readers’ news feeds. The various links that repurpose the same post have been shared on Facebook at least 17,000 times.

We know this particular claim is f**e, because it comes from a website that makes up its content.

It was originally posted on March 16 at TheLastLineOfDefense.org, which has been the source of several f**e news stories that we’ve previously checked. These kinds of posts end up being passed around on multiple websites, often without attribution about its origin.

TheLastLineOfDefense.org doesn’t indicate this or any other story is f**e, but its About Us link notes that "all articles should be considered satirical and any and all quotes attributed to actual people complete and total baloney."

Moreover, the whole idea that Robinson was at all eligible for a federal pension for being a caretaker of the former first family’s children is entirely wrong.

Robinson was a former bank secretary and stay-at-home mother to Michelle Obama and her brother Craig. She did move into the White House in 2009, and has helped raise her granddaughters. But she didn’t draw a salary and wasn’t on any kind of government payroll for doing that. Since she was never a federal employee, she doesn’t qualify for any government pension.

The post on TheLastLineOfDefense.org is building on a claim from October 2016 that originated on BostonTribune.com. That website said Robinson was allowed to collect the $160,000 pension once the Obamas left the White House.

Despite the story being shared on several other f**e news sites, there’s no actual pension for Robinson to collect. We rated that statement Pants On Fire!

TheLastLineOfDefense.org report appears to acknowledge there is no pension for the first grandma (or at least not a legal one). Instead, the post unleashes outrage over Robinson’s alleged attempt to collect money not owed to her.

What we have here is one f**e news website posting a contrived follow-up to another f**e news website’s false report. Robinson is not collecting a pension, and she hasn’t been charged with a crime for trying to collect a pension.

We rate this claim Pants On Fire!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I have no intention on posting a book to again refute the false claims you make about President Obama and or false "accomplishments" about the orange con man..

In short.. all of your points are false and not in anyway supported by facts..

Only members of the trump cult swallow so much BS as real..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Question for you Rad,

When the consumer pays that additional money, how do conclude that it is China paying rather then the American consumer??

Strange puzzle indeed..

fullspinzoo

You are pants on Fire. Everything that comes out of your Marxist's mouth is a crock. You don't agree that there was an attempted c**p
2) a bunch of smut designed to smear the president paid for by Hillary and Co., not worthy of the worst rag in the country, the Nat'l Enquirer.
3) used to get a FISA warrant to SPY on American citizens, namely in the Trump campaign, unheard of in American politics. Your hero was behind all of this. They have the PROOF!!!! Grab your popcorn and watch as these pieces of s**t (that you support) fall like dominoes one by one.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

A smidgen from a long email i got a few weeks ago..


On foreign relations:
His meek subservience to dictators makes Obama look downright hard-nosed. Look at how he sits like a chastened schoolboy near Putin, Xi, Bin Salman, and Kim, and if you’re not throwing up in your mouth a bit, you’re probably not really an American. Yes, Obama was a God damn pansy, but sweet merciful crap, look at how Trump acts around dictators!
Most liberals aren’t big on free trade. Trump has imposed nonsensical tariffs that are steadily bankrupting “red” states while helping the economies in “blue” states. Yay?
Thanks to President Trump, our European allies have decided to figure out a path forward without us.
On taxes:
His tax cut was great for the Koch brothers, but the real beneficiaries were his arch-nemesis Jeff Bezos and George Soros, and, through them, the Washington Post, A****a (assuming, of course, you believe the conspiracy theory) and Bloomberg’s anti-gun PAC, Everytown for Gun Safety. This undoubtedly played a role in ensuring that the Parkland survivors had little difficulty getting their travel covered, and individual Democratic candidates having no trouble with fund-raising.
The people hurt worst by his taxes were farmers and the white working class - the very people who ensured his victory. Whoops.
Miscellaneous Trumpian Victories:
The Affordable Care Act, much like Planned Parenthood, is here to stay until the liberals replace it with national healthcare. Uh… yay?
While every President since Carter has used an emergency declaration, none have ever used it to bypass Congress completely. Thanks to Trump, future Democratic Presidents will be able to declare a national emergency on literally anything. And yes, I’m talking about the environment and guns, and no, I don’t take right-wing threats of violence seriously. Yes, right-wing violence is on the rise, but they generally don’t target powerful people, and they quickly disown the perpetrator as some “left-wing plant.” Come on, guys. It’s either Second Amendment Time or it isn’t.

Jean Deaux

Rqdiance, I'd have complained about obama's MIL had I known of it. Thanks for the info!

fullspinzoo

"I have a phone and a pen" Who said that? Where do you come up with your bulls**t?" Do you have a network worse than CNN where you get your bogus talking pts?

Radiance3

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Attn: Perma:
Typical bunch of lies you put up there. Of course Michelle's Mom was given hidden disbursement of taxpayers' money. How about Hillary stole the expensive furniture and antiques from the WH in2001? Klepto are her hands.

Everything the LIBS/DEMS say are lies. They could not produce positive message because they have none.

Joe Biden just claimed a ridiculous h**x again this morning that president Trump inhirited a booming economy from Obama and Biden Administration. These people have no shame at all. They have lost all fibers of their morals what are left are bunch of garbage. DEMS in Congress are desperate, populated by bunch of socialist libtards. and creeps.

President Trump inherited the worst economy from Obama.
Here are examples of Obama's legacy after he left the WH.
1. He doubled the national debts to $19,997 trillion, all of the debts combined left by the prior presidents.
2. Unemployment of 16% to 21% for b****s.
3. Created 46 million household on Food Stamps.
4. Created 76% of single black women out of wedlock but made many babies.
5. Left infrastructures and highways abandoned and rotted.
6. Reduced the US military officers of 197 and , its budget.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/
7. Unemployment rate BLS doctored, due to the ObamaCare. He required employers with 50 or more employees working 40 hours per week, to provide medical coverage. But employers could not afford the cost, so they reduced working hours of so many employees to 29 hours/wk. And hired more workers working 29 hrs., to cover the lost hours. Increased number of employees but mostly PT. All those PT employees were qualified for Food Stamps and Welfare subsidies. The Obama way.

Here are some more:
Posted on April 18, 2015 by Stephen Martino
he Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:
#Scandals (Though both Obama and the MSM denied any occurred!):
IRS targets Obama’s enemies
B******i
Spying on the AP
The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme
Sebelius demands payment
The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal
The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.
Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets
Solyndra
New Black Panthers V**er Intimidation
The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer
Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act
“I’ll Pass My Own Laws”
NSA Spying on American People
Foreign Policy
Lack of solidarity with Israel
Disaster with the Arab Spring
Crimea
Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over
Handling of Syrian Red Line
Calling ISIS “JV”
Failing to Recognize ISIS as a Radical (or Devout) Muslim Movement
Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits
Lack of Confidence by NATO nations
Signing a Disastrous Nuclear Deal with the Mullahs of Iran
Paid $5 Billion & Released 5 Taliban Prisoners For Deserter Bergdahl
Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval
Allowed the building of Chinese bases in the South China Sea and off the coast of Somalia at the entrance to the gulf of Aden
14. Paying ransom to Iranian for hostages- and using foreign currency in unmarked plane
15. Lying about paying ransom (which media ignored!)
16. Pays tribute to Japanese at Hiroshima on US Memorial Day
17. Obama trashed America 18 times on Asian Tour
18. Pushing the U.N. resolution condemning Israel for legally building houses in Jewish neighborhoods
19. Released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority in last few hours of presidency
20. Downed US drone taken by Iran, reverse engineered, and sent into Israel. Obama could have destroyed the drone instead of selling the United States and allies out by asking for the drone- which obviously was never returned.
Domestic Policy
Failure to secure the Border
I******s bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border
Bowe Bergdahl swap
Passing on the keystone pipeline
9 Trillion dollars more in debt
Vast expansion of government
Racial Division at all-time high
Inviting Bomb Boy Ahmed to White House
Disrespect for Cops
Failed economic stimulus plan
Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule
China overtook America as world’s largest economy
Double Downgrade
Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures
Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it
Education policies failed to curb college costs
Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid
Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working
Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7%
Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism
Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016
Naming numerous C*******ts/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions
Mismanagement and cover up of Terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, California
Mismanagement of Gulf Oil Spill
Disastrous Vetting Process of “Immigrants” from Muslim Nations
Refusing to Listen to CIA/FBI that there is no way to properly vet certain immigrants from Muslim nations
27. Fort Hood Shooting
28. Colorado EPA Disaster
29. Veto of 911 Crime Bill- which was overturned
30. Worst economic recovery since the depression with anemic GDP numbers
31. Over 94 million Americans out of the workforce
32. Obama commutes sentence on Chelsea Manning
33. Obama commuted the sentence of FALN activist Oscar López Rivera

JEFF JACOBY
At home and abroad, Obama’s trail of disasters

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html

Note: These are just part of the disasters that Obama left our country.

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President Trump brought us to the Shining City in the Hill Again. Thank you Mr. President. you are brilliant with so much love, loyalty, p***e, and patriotism to our country.
3.6% unemployed with 96.4% of household employed.
Wages going up
3.1% of women unemployed with salaries competitive with men.
3.2 Average GDP
Strongest military forces
Tamed NATO members to fund more of their promises
Removed NAFTA
Curtailed China's thieveries of our Intellectual Properties.
Stopped ISIS.
Lowest taxes IRS filers most benefitted the Seniors.
Lowered corporate tax to 25%. Now this is one of the most important factors that forwarded our country to number again in economy and military powers.
Brought home 6000 manufacturing jobs and other corporate activities from abroad.
They are too long to list. Here read the rest.
Here are the 289 complete list of president Trump's accomplishments for just 2 years and 4 months. Fantastic!!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping








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permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Good morning Jean,, looked for this last night but could not find the right page.. people went nuts on this.. did they not remember that they were supposed to watch some story about d**gons last night?

gosh, you pack a lot into your post.. I will not respond to much of it..

NAFTA... this will not go into effect until 2020, not yet approved last I heard.. little change. more auto assembly by higher paid workers is required. More safety for Mexican trucks, this was a demand by Mexico.

Not included, addressing internet commerce, environmental and labor safety issues..

TPP... this should have been pursued.. it was the best anti=China policy we had. would have made the tariffs and trade war unnecessary...

GATT...do not think this qualifies as changing, trump only said he would not abide by the rules. Put together in late 1940s, this has served American business very well for all these years.. Do not follow trumps dumb intent..

Income ine******y.. if I used this term, it was my bad.. do not like it.. I do however strongly support the need for equal opportunity.. which is so sadly lacking for much of America..

trump kids... they do not seem to have any qualifications and I do not feel like looking up the law.. I would think that he is within the law considering the kids are still around.. Pay... I may look for that sometime..

But I will say that putting the kids in advisory positions is simply one more tactic to provide more "yes" from all those around him.. He will not accept advise, only atta boys.. a sure way to fail..

I did not see any grievous hard times under President Obama.. slow yes, very bad not so much..

Point out what changes trump made to change direction of the economy and job creation...

Jean Deaux

Radiance 3: Hats off for a superb research job. Really hard for liberals to handle the fact that their boy was a charlatan, liar, and con man. I say again, he was the sorriest individual to ever enter the oval office!!

Jean Deaux

Permafrost: You once again point out that there are always two ways to look at a situation. And that is what has kept our country alive and vibrant. We perceive Trump from two entirely different viewpoints: fair enough. That is the essence of politics but what I find particularly egregious is the extremes that liberals have used to attempt to destroy him with no regard for the opposing view. Extremists have taken the fight to the level that we are in danger of losing the country. Or at least inciting civil war which is probably the same thing. I can see nothing from the liberals other than h**e and that is not a good reason to destroy the country.

I feel that Trump has made many valuable contributions to the society, Dems see all his accomplishments as lies. We are at loggerheads without good reason. I see Trump as one of our finest presidents but liberals perceive him as one of the worst. I don't know how we move past this conundrum other than continued exchange of viewpoints. Hasn't worked yet but hopefully, one day...