We Wouldn’t Have Let Obama Get Away With This (Page 8): Given the availability of free and/or inexpensive birth control, a******n should not be as common as it is. We have to deal with...

Smedley_buzkill

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Propaganda--- You may not like me after I tell you... (show quote)

Given the availability of free and/or inexpensive birth control, a******n should not be as common as it is. We have to deal with the problem as it is, not as we wish it were. The fact is that there are so many kids today who are products of single parent homes. It has been proven time after time that these kids are far more likely to get in some sort of trouble, not do as well in school and have mental issues. Given the fact that around 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock, about half of Latinos and forty odd percent of w****s, it seems that Asians are the only people around who are mostly married when they have kids. It should come as no surprise that their crime rate is as low as their grades are high.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Well I see I gave you a chuckle ---Its funny how s... (show quote)

We all knew that Trump was no alter boy before we v**ed for him.

You claim you want a decent candidate and you trot out Biden ?

Really Tom ?

What has Biden spent his life doing ?

Well first, in 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam war, Biden finagled himself a deferment and was conveniently reclassified due to asthma when he was a teenager.

And what has he done since then ?

He's been riding the government gravy train his entire life.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Wolf counselor wrote:

We all knew that Trump was no alter boy before we v**ed for him.

You claim you want a decent candidate and you trot out Biden ?

Really Tom ?

What has Biden spent his life doing ?

Well first, in 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam war, Biden finagled himself a deferment and was conveniently reclassified due to asthma when he was a teenager.

And what has he done since then ?

He's been riding the government gravy train his entire life.

Still won't change my mind. trump is a jerk and nothing is going to change that. He would be a dictator if he could. We as a nation are in for hard times because of his policys but hey that's what you get. I really do want to see the exrays of trumps non existant bone spurs. I went all through high school watching my friends get drafted before they even graduated. I enlisted. I make no appologys and have no regrets.

JoyV

slatten49 wrote:

Could you present some evidence of calls for his impeachment before he even took office? The earliest I remember was by a congressman in the Spring after he was sworn in. I refer to democrat Al Green from Texas, in May of 2017. There may have been others, but I can't recall.

The headline of Vanity Fair on Dec 15, 2016 read, "DEMOCRATS ARE PAVING THE WAY TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP"

JoyV

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Propaganda--- You may not like me after I tell you... (show quote)

What you believe or don't in no way answers the question of whether or not Biden meets the standard of a decent person. Figuring out where Biden stands is difficult. Over the years he has changed his positions back and forth on multiple issues. Take the a******n issue. In the 60s and early 70s he was pro-a******n. In the 80s he was anti-a******n. Now he is again pro-a******n. This is a recurring pattern. Then there is his problems with sexual harassment which he hopes will be forgiven with enough apologies. His wavering between praising then castigating conservative Republicans (as a group not individuals). His campaigns acceptance of LOTS of special interest money. But the biggest ethical problem may be his Ukraine scandal. https://outline.com/3fKJwu
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-a******n-president

So is he a decent human being? Define what you consider decent they compare that definition to his record.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

JoyV wrote:

What you believe or don't in no way answers the qu... (show quote)

why?

Smedley_buzkill

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Still won't change my mind. trump is a jerk and nothing is going to change that. He would be a dictator if he could. We as a nation are in for hard times because of his policys but hey that's what you get. I really do want to see the exrays of trumps non existant bone spurs. I went all through high school watching my friends get drafted before they even graduated. I enlisted. I make no appologys and have no regrets.

Tom, your candidate Biden got five student deferments to avoid the draft and supposedly had asthma, from which he apparently no longer suffers. Don't you find it odd that the same asthma that got him a medical deferment was not severe enough to keep him from playing football at both his high school and the University of Delaware?

BTW; I enlisted also, when I was old enough to know better.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/joe-biden-twenty-things-you-probably-didnt-know/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/01/bidens-draft-deferments-equal-cheneys-during-vietn/

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Tom, your candidate Biden got five student deferme... (show quote)

Any body is better than trump. Funny how the mud slinging starts now that everybody knows Biden will be the democratic nominee. The misdeeds of trump mean nothing to his followers-- I find it bizzarre. This country is going down the tubes under trump.--People can sing praises about his economy all they want but minimum wage part time jobs are not going to build the middle class. We had diplomacy on our side once but it's all over now. Other nations do not trust us. Russia and China have taken our role as a big brother nation and now have inroads and outposts all over the planet and it is a direct result of the asinine policys of a crazy man. That is the t***h but you might deny it. We are going back to the dark ages here. Go ahead and pollute the sky and the waters-- drill and mine and tromp on treaty rights and individual property rights like only the wealthy and corporations matter and the people should be mere subjects who should be grateful for a scrap or a roll of paper towels thrown to them.

Smedley_buzkill

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Any body is better than trump. Funny how the mud s... (show quote)

Tom, we had diplomacy on our side when Obama gave other countries wh**ever they wanted. Now other nations do not trust us because the gravy train is ending. Pollution is still declining. Getting rid of useless regulations promulgated by even more useless bureaucrats is not a bugler sounding the charge to destroy the Earth. Which treaty rights are you referring to, by the way?
Regarding your support of Biden, I suggest you look down his back trail. He is guilty of just about everything you are laying on Trump.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Tom, we had diplomacy on our side when Obama gave ... (show quote)

I still will never v**e for trump and a lot of people that I know who v**ed for t***p w*n't do it again. Biden is better than trump by a long shot. Our standing with the rest of the world depends on ending the trump regime.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

JoyV wrote:

The headline of Vanity Fair on Dec 15, 2016 read, "DEMOCRATS ARE PAVING THE WAY TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/democrats-pave-the-way-to-impeach-donald-trump

Depending on ones political leanings, readers will make what they will out of this. IMO, requesting/insisting a president-elect adhere to the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution is not a plan for impeachment. It is, instead, a call for following constitutional guidelines.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

slatten49 wrote:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/democrats-pave-the-way-to-impeach-donald-trump

Depending on ones political leanings, readers will make what they will out of this. IMO, requesting/insisting a president-elect adhere to the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution is not a plan for impeachment. It is, instead, a call for following constitutional guidelines.

Smedley_buzkill

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I still will never v**e for trump and a lot of people that I know who v**ed for t***p w*n't do it again. Biden is better than trump by a long shot. Our standing with the rest of the world depends on ending the trump regime.

Our standing vis-a-vis the rest of the world was that of a soft touch, always ready with a handout, or to spend American money and blood to help countries that wouldn't give us the time of day if they had their druthers.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Our standing vis-a-vis the rest of the world was that of a soft touch, always ready with a handout, or to spend American money and blood to help countries that wouldn't give us the time of day if they had their druthers.

Yeah I know Yankee go home.-- We once fought c*******m now we are letting it spread to our back yard.

JoyV

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Tom, your candidate Biden got five student deferme... (show quote)

Nor did he have asthma before the draft.