woodguru

Mueller specifically said that collusion was not a thing that was a crime... but conspiracy and working with Russians is a different story, and he found plenty of those spades to Trump the e******n i**********e.

This narrative by the right is being made about what Mueller did not say, not what he did say. What he didn't say does not begin to be the story about what's important. He made multiple cases for obstruction that would result in prosecution for anyone but the president, and he made multiple cases about Russian e******n i**********e and hacking, and Trump campaign and staff that were involved.

There were what, 12 or 13 redacted names referred to other prosecutors for further actions? This isn't close to being over based on what Mueller said or didn't say about irrelevant things.

If a republican told you that Roundup did not say there was any harmful cholesterol, would you drink it because the things that were harmful weren't mentioned?

You all need to start looking at the things this report has said, because there are at least five prosecutable instances of obstruction, and more people are going to be prosecuted and found guilty of crimes than have been indicted so far.

Liberty Tree

Where did you get your law degree? HuffPost University?

Unintended Consequences

[quote=Liberty Tree]Where did you get your law degree? HuffPost University?

Have you read the Mueller report? If not, who cares what insult you come up with.
If you have read it, what is your rebuttal?

Liberty Tree

[quote=Unintended Consequences]

Do not need to rebut spin.

woodguru

I didn't go to sniper school, but I can still shoot a ground squirrel at 400 yards, in a breeze that drifts the bullet 18 inches.

Ignorant people are listening to a dialog and rhetoric about what Mueller didn't say, or said didn't happen, and refuse to hear anything about what was said.

It doesn't take a law degree to be able to figure out when a dialog is about deflection and obfuscation.

Smedley_buzkill

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell when someone is speaking from bigotry either.

Liberty Tree

You do not know the legal definition of colusion, but two attorneys with more knowledge of you have decided the actions did not rise to that level. You read into it what your own bias brain wants to see or not see. I never laid an egg, but I know when one is rotten like your posts.

Joan10244

Unfortunately, Mueller did not believe there was criminal intent which is required. You can say antyhing but it is not a crime unless it causes action to take place.

Rose42

Sure you can. And you can do it after crawling on your belly through the bush inch by inch for 3 days through enemy territory and having to relieve yourself in your pants.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Four football fields on a windy day and a six-inch squirrel, not counting the tail? If you're not a sniper and have a spotter you're blowing smoke. Unless you have one of those high tech guns that figure all that stuff for you.

The big five (US, UK, Israel, China, Russia) all spy on one another. They do so every e******n too, by getting their people (foreign or domestic) close to each campaign to find out as much as they can on possible upcoming agendas or to sabotage or undermine a perceived future threat. They all hovered around the Clinton campaign too. Nothing new. Just having the UN in the US allows spies to flood our nation, add foreign exchange students and it's even more.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You're full of crap!

And something that WAS said speaks out loud to me.

It's over. Get over it, and watch the domino's start to fall.
If it all goes as it should, maybe you'll shoot yourself in the head point blank for making such a fool of yourself.

That is, if Barr doesn't put a couple of bullets in the back of his own head with a revolver, and his non-dominant hand.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

No one said things did not reach that level, they said no evedence that would stand in court and no exoneration for trump on the obstruction charge..

even living in your bubble, you should have read this many times by now..

Get with the program!!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

If you have trouble comprehending what you read in a simple forum post, how the hell could anyone expect you to write a credible response. You blew it in one sentence.

In Volume 1 (Collusion) of his report, Mueller states clearly that not Trump, nor any member of his family, his campaign staff, his t***sition team, his WH staff, nor any American citizen whatsoever colluded with any Russian entity. That stands as a complete exoneration of the original allegation.

If Mueller was a principled man, a dedicated prosecutor with the integrity to find the facts in a case, he would have ended the investigation when he found no evidence regarding the original mandate that launched the investigation in the first place. Why then did he press on and pursue an entirely new charge that was not even mentioned in the original mandate?

Regarding the charge of obstruction of justice as suggested in Volume 2, again the investigation failed to find sufficient evidence to file such a charge. So what then is Volume 2. First, it is not a legal document, it is a political one. In Volume 2, no case pertinent criminal law is cited, therefore no specific charges are filed.

President Trump gave Mueller everything he asked for, including 1.4 million documents (not pages, documents), he allowed Mueller free access to any member of his staff, including his chief of staff and his attorneys. Trump waived executive privilege and even attorney/client privilege. Moreover, to think about obstructing an investigation, discuss it, conspire, plan or even issue orders that would result in obstruction is not a crime if no action whatsoever was taken.

Put simply, you could think about, dream about, talk about, or conspire to k**l someone you h**e, but you cannot be charged with murder if you or your fellow conspirators never k**led anyone.

It is telling that WH counsel McGahn was under Mueller's hot lights for 30 hours (almost a work week), yet that critical interrogation is given a paragraph or two in Volume 2. That begs the question, what did McGahn tell the investigators in 30 hours of grilling? Could it be that he told them a truckload of things they didn't want to hear?

In reality, the criminal conspiracy in this case is the attempt to o*******w a p**********l e******n, to destroy a duly elected president, his presidency, his family and anyone associated with any of them. This entire sordid affair is the worst political scandal in American history bar none. Should this wicked thing succeed, it would disenfranchise 63 million plus v**ers and would constitute the greatest act of v**er suppression surpassed only in the Soviet Union.

Unintended Consequences

a duly elected president??? with the help of Russia stealing documents, placing ads on Facebook and other social media and outv**ed in the popular v**e due perhaps to Republican gerrymandering and other v**er suppression measures!

And then why did they lie? Why was it a Witch Hunt. Trump looked as guilty as hell every other day or so, by tweeting some crap about Mueller, firing Comey, complaining about Sessions and on and on.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

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