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Apr 28, 2019 16:16:02   #
bahmer
 
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian
By Dr. Michael Brown - April 28, 2019

Let’s set the record straight. Jesus was a Galilean Jew, not a Palestinian Muslim. He celebrated Passover, not Ramadan, and he was called “Rabbi” not “Imam.” His followers were named Yaakov and Yochanan and Yehudah, not Muhammad and Abdullah and Khalid. And he himself had one of the most common Jewish names of the day: Yeshua.

As for the name “Palestine,” it was not used in any widespread way to describe the land of Israel until 135 AD – in other words, more than 100 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. And it was renamed Palestine by the Romans to mock the Jewish people, thereby calling their ancient (and sacred) homeland the land of the Philistines.

But it is not only anachronistic to label Jesus a Palestinian. It is also misleading.

That’s because the word “Palestinian” today speaks of non-Israelites, of non-Jews. It speaks of a people who claim that the land of Israel belongs to them, not to the Jewish people. And it speaks primarily of Muslims.

That’s what comes to mind when someone says, “Jesus was a Palestinian.” And that’s why Palestinian activists have tried to recast Jesus in their own image.

Leading up to Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem last year, Fatah officials called Jesus “the first Palestinian.”

Five years earlier, in 2013, the PLO declared:

“Every Christmas, Palestine celebrates the birth of one of its own, Jesus Christ.”
Back in 2005, the PA stated that:

“We must not forget that Messiah [Jesus] is a Palestinian, the son of Mary the Palestinian.”
And Fatah even declared Jesus to be “the first Palestinian martyr (shahid)” in 2015.

Anything but declaring that Jesus, who is revered in Islam as a prophet (but not as the crucified Son of God), was a first-century Jewish rabbi.

Instead, Jesus is recast as a Palestinian freedom fighter, born of a Palestinian mother, at war with the evil Jews, and (through Islamic eyes) a prophet of Islam. God forbid that he is recognized as Rabbi Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel.

But it’s one thing when Palestinian activists and Muslim propagandists recreate Jesus in their own image, calling him a Palestinian.

It’s another thing when a member of the House of Representatives does this same thing. Yet it was none other than Rep. Ilhan Omar who retweeted a tweet from Omar Suleiman which included the statement that “Jesus was a Palestinian.” In fact, the tweet highlighted the suffering of Palestinian Christians at the hands of evil Israel, further separating Jesus from his Jewish ancestry.

It was for good reason that Rabbi Abraham Cooper took umbrage to Omar’s retweet, noting that:

“Palestine was a name made up by Romans after they crucified thousands, destroyed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and exiled the People of Israel from their homeland.”
But Omar is not the only one to perpetuate this fraud.

In an op-ed in the New York Times, published one day before the misleading tweet, Eric V. Copage claimed that:

“Jesus, born in Bethlehem, was most likely a Palestinian man with dark skin.”
Jesus the Palestinian!

And note carefully that, in an op-ed of roughly 700 words, the word “Jew” does not occur a single time. The same with the word “Israel.” Not one single mention.

Ironically, Copage was explaining why he, as a black Christian, was mystified as a child at the “fair-skinned, blue-eyed depiction of Jesus.”

And for good reason. Jesus was not a European Caucasian.

But he was also not an African Black. Or a Palestinian.

He was a first-century, Middle Eastern Jew. And he would have been recognized for his Jewish religious garb, including the fringes at the corners of his garments (see Numbers 15:37-41; and compare Matthew 9:20; 14:36 in the RSV; NRSV; ESV; NASB; NLT; TLV).

That doesn’t mean that Jesus is indifferent to the challenges faced by the Palestinians. Or that he doesn’t identify with Palestinian Christians. Or that American Christians who support Israel should be anti-Palestinian.

Not at all.

True friends of Israel – especially true Christian friends of Israel – should want justice and fairness for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As for Jesus, he is both the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world, giving his life for Jew and Gentile alike.

But let’s call out this hijacking of Jesus’ identity by Palestinian activists, Muslim leaders, a US congresswoman, and the New York Times.

Let’s stop the lie in its tracks.

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Apr 28, 2019 16:45:41   #
EmilyD
 
bahmer wrote:
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian
By Dr. Michael Brown - April 28, 2019

Let’s set the record straight. Jesus was a Galilean Jew, not a Palestinian Muslim. He celebrated Passover, not Ramadan, and he was called “Rabbi” not “Imam.” His followers were named Yaakov and Yochanan and Yehudah, not Muhammad and Abdullah and Khalid. And he himself had one of the most common Jewish names of the day: Yeshua.

As for the name “Palestine,” it was not used in any widespread way to describe the land of Israel until 135 AD – in other words, more than 100 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. And it was renamed Palestine by the Romans to mock the Jewish people, thereby calling their ancient (and sacred) homeland the land of the Philistines.

But it is not only anachronistic to label Jesus a Palestinian. It is also misleading.

That’s because the word “Palestinian” today speaks of non-Israelites, of non-Jews. It speaks of a people who claim that the land of Israel belongs to them, not to the Jewish people. And it speaks primarily of Muslims.

That’s what comes to mind when someone says, “Jesus was a Palestinian.” And that’s why Palestinian activists have tried to recast Jesus in their own image.

Leading up to Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem last year, Fatah officials called Jesus “the first Palestinian.”

Five years earlier, in 2013, the PLO declared:

“Every Christmas, Palestine celebrates the birth of one of its own, Jesus Christ.”
Back in 2005, the PA stated that:

“We must not forget that Messiah [Jesus] is a Palestinian, the son of Mary the Palestinian.”
And Fatah even declared Jesus to be “the first Palestinian martyr (shahid)” in 2015.

Anything but declaring that Jesus, who is revered in Islam as a prophet (but not as the crucified Son of God), was a first-century Jewish rabbi.

Instead, Jesus is recast as a Palestinian freedom fighter, born of a Palestinian mother, at war with the evil Jews, and (through Islamic eyes) a prophet of Islam. God forbid that he is recognized as Rabbi Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel.

But it’s one thing when Palestinian activists and Muslim propagandists recreate Jesus in their own image, calling him a Palestinian.

It’s another thing when a member of the House of Representatives does this same thing. Yet it was none other than Rep. Ilhan Omar who retweeted a tweet from Omar Suleiman which included the statement that “Jesus was a Palestinian.” In fact, the tweet highlighted the suffering of Palestinian Christians at the hands of evil Israel, further separating Jesus from his Jewish ancestry.

It was for good reason that Rabbi Abraham Cooper took umbrage to Omar’s retweet, noting that:

“Palestine was a name made up by Romans after they crucified thousands, destroyed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and exiled the People of Israel from their homeland.”
But Omar is not the only one to perpetuate this fraud.

In an op-ed in the New York Times, published one day before the misleading tweet, Eric V. Copage claimed that:

“Jesus, born in Bethlehem, was most likely a Palestinian man with dark skin.”
Jesus the Palestinian!

And note carefully that, in an op-ed of roughly 700 words, the word “Jew” does not occur a single time. The same with the word “Israel.” Not one single mention.

Ironically, Copage was explaining why he, as a black Christian, was mystified as a child at the “fair-skinned, blue-eyed depiction of Jesus.”

And for good reason. Jesus was not a European Caucasian.

But he was also not an African Black. Or a Palestinian.

He was a first-century, Middle Eastern Jew. And he would have been recognized for his Jewish religious garb, including the fringes at the corners of his garments (see Numbers 15:37-41; and compare Matthew 9:20; 14:36 in the RSV; NRSV; ESV; NASB; NLT; TLV).

That doesn’t mean that Jesus is indifferent to the challenges faced by the Palestinians. Or that he doesn’t identify with Palestinian Christians. Or that American Christians who support Israel should be anti-Palestinian.

Not at all.

True friends of Israel – especially true Christian friends of Israel – should want justice and fairness for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As for Jesus, he is both the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world, giving his life for Jew and Gentile alike.

But let’s call out this hijacking of Jesus’ identity by Palestinian activists, Muslim leaders, a US congresswoman, and the New York Times.

Let’s stop the lie in its tracks.
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian br By Dr. Michael Brow... (show quote)

It's the biggest lie out there, imo. This lie will not stick - everyone knows Jesus was Jewish. If I every hear someone say it in my presence, I will set them straight, that's for sure!!!

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Apr 28, 2019 16:46:50   #
bahmer
 
EmilyD wrote:
It's the biggest lie out there, imo. This lie will not stick - everyone knows Jesus was Jewish. If I every hear someone say it in my presence, I will set them straight, that's for sure!!!


Amen and Amen

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Apr 28, 2019 17:33:15   #
Ricktloml
 
bahmer wrote:
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian
By Dr. Michael Brown - April 28, 2019

Let’s set the record straight. Jesus was a Galilean Jew, not a Palestinian Muslim. He celebrated Passover, not Ramadan, and he was called “Rabbi” not “Imam.” His followers were named Yaakov and Yochanan and Yehudah, not Muhammad and Abdullah and Khalid. And he himself had one of the most common Jewish names of the day: Yeshua.

As for the name “Palestine,” it was not used in any widespread way to describe the land of Israel until 135 AD – in other words, more than 100 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. And it was renamed Palestine by the Romans to mock the Jewish people, thereby calling their ancient (and sacred) homeland the land of the Philistines.

But it is not only anachronistic to label Jesus a Palestinian. It is also misleading.

That’s because the word “Palestinian” today speaks of non-Israelites, of non-Jews. It speaks of a people who claim that the land of Israel belongs to them, not to the Jewish people. And it speaks primarily of Muslims.

That’s what comes to mind when someone says, “Jesus was a Palestinian.” And that’s why Palestinian activists have tried to recast Jesus in their own image.

Leading up to Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem last year, Fatah officials called Jesus “the first Palestinian.”

Five years earlier, in 2013, the PLO declared:

“Every Christmas, Palestine celebrates the birth of one of its own, Jesus Christ.”
Back in 2005, the PA stated that:

“We must not forget that Messiah [Jesus] is a Palestinian, the son of Mary the Palestinian.”
And Fatah even declared Jesus to be “the first Palestinian martyr (shahid)” in 2015.

Anything but declaring that Jesus, who is revered in Islam as a prophet (but not as the crucified Son of God), was a first-century Jewish rabbi.

Instead, Jesus is recast as a Palestinian freedom fighter, born of a Palestinian mother, at war with the evil Jews, and (through Islamic eyes) a prophet of Islam. God forbid that he is recognized as Rabbi Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel.

But it’s one thing when Palestinian activists and Muslim propagandists recreate Jesus in their own image, calling him a Palestinian.

It’s another thing when a member of the House of Representatives does this same thing. Yet it was none other than Rep. Ilhan Omar who retweeted a tweet from Omar Suleiman which included the statement that “Jesus was a Palestinian.” In fact, the tweet highlighted the suffering of Palestinian Christians at the hands of evil Israel, further separating Jesus from his Jewish ancestry.

It was for good reason that Rabbi Abraham Cooper took umbrage to Omar’s retweet, noting that:

“Palestine was a name made up by Romans after they crucified thousands, destroyed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and exiled the People of Israel from their homeland.”
But Omar is not the only one to perpetuate this fraud.

In an op-ed in the New York Times, published one day before the misleading tweet, Eric V. Copage claimed that:

“Jesus, born in Bethlehem, was most likely a Palestinian man with dark skin.”
Jesus the Palestinian!

And note carefully that, in an op-ed of roughly 700 words, the word “Jew” does not occur a single time. The same with the word “Israel.” Not one single mention.

Ironically, Copage was explaining why he, as a black Christian, was mystified as a child at the “fair-skinned, blue-eyed depiction of Jesus.”

And for good reason. Jesus was not a European Caucasian.

But he was also not an African Black. Or a Palestinian.

He was a first-century, Middle Eastern Jew. And he would have been recognized for his Jewish religious garb, including the fringes at the corners of his garments (see Numbers 15:37-41; and compare Matthew 9:20; 14:36 in the RSV; NRSV; ESV; NASB; NLT; TLV).

That doesn’t mean that Jesus is indifferent to the challenges faced by the Palestinians. Or that he doesn’t identify with Palestinian Christians. Or that American Christians who support Israel should be anti-Palestinian.

Not at all.

True friends of Israel – especially true Christian friends of Israel – should want justice and fairness for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As for Jesus, he is both the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world, giving his life for Jew and Gentile alike.

But let’s call out this hijacking of Jesus’ identity by Palestinian activists, Muslim leaders, a US congresswoman, and the New York Times.

Let’s stop the lie in its tracks.
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian br By Dr. Michael Brow... (show quote)



It's amazing that the left wants to label Jesus, (Yeshua,) as anything and everything other than who he truly is. A Palestinian, a socialist, an i*****l i*******t, the father of lies is working overtime with these fools.

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Apr 28, 2019 17:37:25   #
Richard Rowland
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen


We, humans, are a strange bunch. Judaisms faithful doesn't recognize Jesus until the Palestinians attempt ta claim him, now, however, they put on their indignant face insisting Jesus is one of them.

Our friend Brother Nathanael, as a young boy, inquired of Jesus to the Rabbi; the Rabbi spit and told him never to mention that name again. Strange indeed.

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Apr 28, 2019 18:20:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bahmer wrote:
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian
By Dr. Michael Brown - April 28, 2019

Let’s set the record straight. Jesus was a Galilean Jew, not a Palestinian Muslim. He celebrated Passover, not Ramadan, and he was called “Rabbi” not “Imam.” His followers were named Yaakov and Yochanan and Yehudah, not Muhammad and Abdullah and Khalid. And he himself had one of the most common Jewish names of the day: Yeshua.

As for the name “Palestine,” it was not used in any widespread way to describe the land of Israel until 135 AD – in other words, more than 100 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. And it was renamed Palestine by the Romans to mock the Jewish people, thereby calling their ancient (and sacred) homeland the land of the Philistines.

But it is not only anachronistic to label Jesus a Palestinian. It is also misleading.

That’s because the word “Palestinian” today speaks of non-Israelites, of non-Jews. It speaks of a people who claim that the land of Israel belongs to them, not to the Jewish people. And it speaks primarily of Muslims.

That’s what comes to mind when someone says, “Jesus was a Palestinian.” And that’s why Palestinian activists have tried to recast Jesus in their own image.

Leading up to Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem last year, Fatah officials called Jesus “the first Palestinian.”

Five years earlier, in 2013, the PLO declared:

“Every Christmas, Palestine celebrates the birth of one of its own, Jesus Christ.”
Back in 2005, the PA stated that:

“We must not forget that Messiah [Jesus] is a Palestinian, the son of Mary the Palestinian.”
And Fatah even declared Jesus to be “the first Palestinian martyr (shahid)” in 2015.

Anything but declaring that Jesus, who is revered in Islam as a prophet (but not as the crucified Son of God), was a first-century Jewish rabbi.

Instead, Jesus is recast as a Palestinian freedom fighter, born of a Palestinian mother, at war with the evil Jews, and (through Islamic eyes) a prophet of Islam. God forbid that he is recognized as Rabbi Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel.

But it’s one thing when Palestinian activists and Muslim propagandists recreate Jesus in their own image, calling him a Palestinian.

It’s another thing when a member of the House of Representatives does this same thing. Yet it was none other than Rep. Ilhan Omar who retweeted a tweet from Omar Suleiman which included the statement that “Jesus was a Palestinian.” In fact, the tweet highlighted the suffering of Palestinian Christians at the hands of evil Israel, further separating Jesus from his Jewish ancestry.

It was for good reason that Rabbi Abraham Cooper took umbrage to Omar’s retweet, noting that:

“Palestine was a name made up by Romans after they crucified thousands, destroyed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and exiled the People of Israel from their homeland.”
But Omar is not the only one to perpetuate this fraud.

In an op-ed in the New York Times, published one day before the misleading tweet, Eric V. Copage claimed that:

“Jesus, born in Bethlehem, was most likely a Palestinian man with dark skin.”
Jesus the Palestinian!

And note carefully that, in an op-ed of roughly 700 words, the word “Jew” does not occur a single time. The same with the word “Israel.” Not one single mention.

Ironically, Copage was explaining why he, as a black Christian, was mystified as a child at the “fair-skinned, blue-eyed depiction of Jesus.”

And for good reason. Jesus was not a European Caucasian.

But he was also not an African Black. Or a Palestinian.

He was a first-century, Middle Eastern Jew. And he would have been recognized for his Jewish religious garb, including the fringes at the corners of his garments (see Numbers 15:37-41; and compare Matthew 9:20; 14:36 in the RSV; NRSV; ESV; NASB; NLT; TLV).

That doesn’t mean that Jesus is indifferent to the challenges faced by the Palestinians. Or that he doesn’t identify with Palestinian Christians. Or that American Christians who support Israel should be anti-Palestinian.

Not at all.

True friends of Israel – especially true Christian friends of Israel – should want justice and fairness for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As for Jesus, he is both the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world, giving his life for Jew and Gentile alike.

But let’s call out this hijacking of Jesus’ identity by Palestinian activists, Muslim leaders, a US congresswoman, and the New York Times.

Let’s stop the lie in its tracks.
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian br By Dr. Michael Brow... (show quote)


Kind of sad...

Have never heard Jesus refered to as a Palestinian... Although Islam does consider him a prophet... Along with Adam , Abraham , Moses, David, Solomon and many others...

I have never heard of a Christian refering to Jesus as a Jewish Rabbi either... Is this insensitive to the Jews?

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Apr 28, 2019 22:13:08   #
Ricktloml
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Kind of sad...

Have never heard Jesus refered to as a Palestinian... Although Islam does consider him a prophet... Along with Adam , Abraham , Moses, David, Solomon and many others...

I have never heard of a Christian refering to Jesus as a Jewish Rabbi either... Is this insensitive to the Jews?


For some Christian denominations the fact that the Jewish priests were instrumental in getting Jesus crucified, has caused a certain amount of blame to be thrown their way. But Jesus, (Yeshua,) WAS a Jew, and blaming the Jewish people for basically the political corruption of the leadership isn't right. There are many non-denominational Christians who are aware of Jesus being a Rabbi, and many believe Passover is the correct way to celebrate His crucifixion and resurrection.

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Apr 28, 2019 22:45:19   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ricktloml wrote:
For some Christian denominations the fact that the Jewish priests were instrumental in getting Jesus crucified, has caused a certain amount of blame to be thrown their way. But Jesus, (Yeshua,) WAS a Jew, and blaming the Jewish people for basically the political corruption of the leadership isn't right. There are many non-denominational Christians who are aware of Jesus being a Rabbi, and many believe Passover is the correct way to celebrate His crucifixion and resurrection.
The early Christian Church (Rome) branded the Jews as the Murderers of God. The idea flies in the face of Jesus' mission on earth. His sacrifice on the cross was prophesied, preordained, meant to be.

He was wounded for our t***sgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah (600 BC)

Jesus knew full well what He came here to do, that He would sacrifice himself for us, and when the time came, He submitted without resistance.

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Apr 28, 2019 22:48:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Ricktloml wrote:
For some Christian denominations the fact that the Jewish priests were instrumental in getting Jesus crucified, has caused a certain amount of blame to be thrown their way. But Jesus, (Yeshua,) WAS a Jew, and blaming the Jewish people for basically the political corruption of the leadership isn't right. There are many non-denominational Christians who are aware of Jesus being a Rabbi, and many believe Passover is the correct way to celebrate His crucifixion and resurrection.


I am aware that he was a Jew...
I have never heard him referred to as a Rabbi...
I have never blamed the Jews for his crucifixion either... That wouldn't make sense...

I celebrate Easter... Always have... See nothing wrong with it...

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Apr 28, 2019 23:06:39   #
bobebgtime Loc: Virginia
 
bahmer wrote:
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian
By Dr. Michael Brown - April 28, 2019

Let’s set the record straight. Jesus was a Galilean Jew, not a Palestinian Muslim. He celebrated Passover, not Ramadan, and he was called “Rabbi” not “Imam.” His followers were named Yaakov and Yochanan and Yehudah, not Muhammad and Abdullah and Khalid. And he himself had one of the most common Jewish names of the day: Yeshua.

As for the name “Palestine,” it was not used in any widespread way to describe the land of Israel until 135 AD – in other words, more than 100 years after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. And it was renamed Palestine by the Romans to mock the Jewish people, thereby calling their ancient (and sacred) homeland the land of the Philistines.

But it is not only anachronistic to label Jesus a Palestinian. It is also misleading.

That’s because the word “Palestinian” today speaks of non-Israelites, of non-Jews. It speaks of a people who claim that the land of Israel belongs to them, not to the Jewish people. And it speaks primarily of Muslims.

That’s what comes to mind when someone says, “Jesus was a Palestinian.” And that’s why Palestinian activists have tried to recast Jesus in their own image.

Leading up to Christmas celebrations in Bethlehem last year, Fatah officials called Jesus “the first Palestinian.”

Five years earlier, in 2013, the PLO declared:

“Every Christmas, Palestine celebrates the birth of one of its own, Jesus Christ.”
Back in 2005, the PA stated that:

“We must not forget that Messiah [Jesus] is a Palestinian, the son of Mary the Palestinian.”
And Fatah even declared Jesus to be “the first Palestinian martyr (shahid)” in 2015.

Anything but declaring that Jesus, who is revered in Islam as a prophet (but not as the crucified Son of God), was a first-century Jewish rabbi.

Instead, Jesus is recast as a Palestinian freedom fighter, born of a Palestinian mother, at war with the evil Jews, and (through Islamic eyes) a prophet of Islam. God forbid that he is recognized as Rabbi Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel.

But it’s one thing when Palestinian activists and Muslim propagandists recreate Jesus in their own image, calling him a Palestinian.

It’s another thing when a member of the House of Representatives does this same thing. Yet it was none other than Rep. Ilhan Omar who retweeted a tweet from Omar Suleiman which included the statement that “Jesus was a Palestinian.” In fact, the tweet highlighted the suffering of Palestinian Christians at the hands of evil Israel, further separating Jesus from his Jewish ancestry.

It was for good reason that Rabbi Abraham Cooper took umbrage to Omar’s retweet, noting that:

“Palestine was a name made up by Romans after they crucified thousands, destroyed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and exiled the People of Israel from their homeland.”
But Omar is not the only one to perpetuate this fraud.

In an op-ed in the New York Times, published one day before the misleading tweet, Eric V. Copage claimed that:

“Jesus, born in Bethlehem, was most likely a Palestinian man with dark skin.”
Jesus the Palestinian!

And note carefully that, in an op-ed of roughly 700 words, the word “Jew” does not occur a single time. The same with the word “Israel.” Not one single mention.

Ironically, Copage was explaining why he, as a black Christian, was mystified as a child at the “fair-skinned, blue-eyed depiction of Jesus.”

And for good reason. Jesus was not a European Caucasian.

But he was also not an African Black. Or a Palestinian.

He was a first-century, Middle Eastern Jew. And he would have been recognized for his Jewish religious garb, including the fringes at the corners of his garments (see Numbers 15:37-41; and compare Matthew 9:20; 14:36 in the RSV; NRSV; ESV; NASB; NLT; TLV).

That doesn’t mean that Jesus is indifferent to the challenges faced by the Palestinians. Or that he doesn’t identify with Palestinian Christians. Or that American Christians who support Israel should be anti-Palestinian.

Not at all.

True friends of Israel – especially true Christian friends of Israel – should want justice and fairness for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. As for Jesus, he is both the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world, giving his life for Jew and Gentile alike.

But let’s call out this hijacking of Jesus’ identity by Palestinian activists, Muslim leaders, a US congresswoman, and the New York Times.

Let’s stop the lie in its tracks.
Jesus Was Not a Palestinian br By Dr. Michael Brow... (show quote)


ok

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Apr 28, 2019 23:26:30   #
Richard Rowland
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The early Christian Church (Rome) branded the Jews as the Murderers of God. The idea flies in the face of Jesus' mission on earth. His sacrifice on the cross was prophesied, preordained, meant to be.

He was wounded for our t***sgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah (600 BC)

Jesus knew full well what He came here to do, that He would sacrifice himself for us, and when the time came, He submitted without resistance.
The early Christian Church (Rome) branded the Jews... (show quote)


If Jesus is already God, why is he asking the question: Why hath ye forsaken me? Or somethin' like that. It's also reasonable to assume prophecies that are preordained can be self-fulfilling ones. I find it strange that from his time as a youth in the temple, till his thirties, not a mention of him.

That plus his brothers and other members of family ballyhooed the idea that he is the son of God.

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Apr 28, 2019 23:38:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
If Jesus is already God, why is he asking the question: Why hath ye forsaken me? Or somethin' like that. It's also reasonable to assume prophecies that are preordained can be self-fulfilling ones. I find it strange that from his time as a youth in the temple, till his thirties, not a mention of him.

That plus his brothers and other members of family ballyhooed the idea that he is the son of God.

Good Lord have mercy. Your ignorance of Jesus' life, His ministry, His family, His brother James, His disciples, and His sacrifice is stunning. You would benefit by not asking such stupid questions.


Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me? (Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)

Even if I explained the spiritual meaning of that cry, you wouldn't understand.

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Apr 28, 2019 23:49:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Good Lord have mercy. Your ignorance of Jesus' life, His ministry, His family, His brother James, His disciples, and His sacrifice is stunning. You would benefit by not asking such stupid questions.


Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me? (Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)

Even if I explained the spiritual meaning of that cry, you wouldn't understand.


But I would enjoy your explanation... If you care to share it...

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Apr 29, 2019 01:17:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
But I would enjoy your explanation... If you care to share it...


Check your PM.

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Apr 29, 2019 05:17:17   #
Richard Rowland
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Good Lord have mercy. Your ignorance of Jesus' life, His ministry, His family, His brother James, His disciples, and His sacrifice is stunning. You would benefit by not asking such stupid questions.


Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me? (Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?)

Even if I explained the spiritual meaning of that cry, you wouldn't understand.


Haven't ya heard? There are no stupid questions. "Even if I explained the spiritual meaning of that cry" Well if ya hold the answer to something as profound as this, why don't ya try? However, I doubt ya really know anything! Here's something that you'll appreciate. It may even help ya actually know something.

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/jesus-unbelieving-brothers

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