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A Difficult Question
Apr 25, 2019 11:16:11   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
What did you talk about at the dinner party last night? Chances are you discussed the weather, your favorite TV show, sports, a story in the news, and similar tri­via. We don’t often discuss our deepest concerns; how often do we engage in a conversation about the purpose of life? It’s not that few persons care about life’s meaning; everyone wants to know what it’s all about. Conversations about the purpose of life are rare because one difficult question leads to an­other and no one likes to admit he’s stumped.

Why do we need a purpose in life anyway? Should not life, after all, be lived spontaneously and ad­venturously? Let the philosophers think about life; the rest of us are content to live it! But can we live life to the full—and not merely exist—unless our lives have direc­tion? The effort to discover the purpose of life is to provide us with a goal, lacking which we are hopelessly lost. No wind serves him who has no destined port, runs an old proverb.

You own a clock to tell the time, a pen to write with, a chair to sit on. Catalogue your possessions and isn’t it true that every one of them is owned to some purpose? When something has served its purpose—your purpose really —you discard it. Things which do not serve some purpose of ours are without value to us; but what purpose do we serve? We don’t value any object except as it serves some purpose, and a man will not value his own life unless he discovers a genuine purpose for living. The higher level his pur­pose, the more will he value the days of his life.

Let’s pose a basic question: Why do we need anything at all? In imagination, abandon all your possessions, then observe what needs come first to the fore. Be­fore the day is out we’ll experience discomfort and perhaps pain; hunger pangs and the sharp edge of the north wind make it clear that our primary survival needs are for food, clothing, and shelter. If you wish to go on living, old mother nature doesn’t offer you any alternatives at this level; meet these primary needs or die! But once these needs are met and your survival assured, then you are confronted by the need to find something to do with your life that will give meaning to survival by challenging your powers and drawing out the best that is in you.

Some men have said that the noblest purpose in life is to serve our fellow man. Suppose someone dedicated to the ideal of serving others knocked on your door say­ing, "I have decided that I know what is best for you. You are making some horrible mistakes in your life and I have come to con­vert you to the correct way of living." Such a caller would get a cold reception. Every man has a right to live his own life, and men whose professed purpose it is to serve others deny this right to those others. Besides, the man who is busy serving others cannot be engaged in his own self-improve­ment. And if his own self is un­improved, how can he improve others?

There are many choices open to anyone who tries to select the best purpose in life. Choice itself is the foundation of every such purpose; life would be meaningless in the absence of any choice. If some bureaucrat had the power to de­cide how you should think and act in every situation, there would be nothing in your life you could call your own, not even your life pur­pose.

The greatest opportunity in life given to man by his Creator is free will—the liberty to choose what he likes to do and reject what he does not like to do. Many men let their lives be governed by their likes and dislikes. However, what a man likes to do and what is right are not always identical, as I shall demonstrate.

Children at play will always choose what they like to do. Watchful mothers forbid their children to play with electricity, matches, poisonous drugs, and other harmful substances because the consequences can be injurious or even fatal, no matter how much the child may enjoy such play. One of the aspects of growing to ma­turity is a recognition that our ac­tions have consequences for which we are responsible.

Many men believe the circum­stances in their lives occur by luck or chance. Such men deny that cause and effect operate in the universe. It is self-evident that a man is free to choose what he likes to do, but he cannot choose the consequences of his actions. These are determined by the na­ture of things.

For example, a man is free to touch a red-hot stove with his bare finger and he is free to tell lies to all of his friends, but he is not free to choose the results. His finger will get burnt and his friends will despise him for his unt***hs. The results of these ac­tions and of every other action in life are determined by the natural laws, whether man likes these re­sults or not. His likes and dislikes will not turn his mistakes into virtues.

What is a law of nature, any­how? The laws of nature, the laws of God, the laws of Creation are simply phrases used to describe the way things are and the way things work. The laws of nature cannot be canceled, bribed, or evaded. If you seek liberty, good health, or success in any other worthy endeavor, look for the laws of nature underlying all things. As I see it, man’s chief purpose in life is to discover the laws of nature so he can harmonize his ac­tions with them and achieve good results in wh**ever he wishes to do with his life. Such a purpose in life excludes no one. It is open to everyone, no matter what his circumstances may be.

By seeking the laws of nature in all things, a man best serves God, his fellow men, himself, and the cause of liberty.

By: Stanley Yankus

(Mr. Yankus moved to Australia from Michi­gan in protest against government intervention in agriculture, but knows that it is not a sufficient purpose for his life.)

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Apr 25, 2019 11:58:12   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
What did you talk about at the dinner party last night? Chances are you discussed the weather, your favorite TV show, sports, a story in the news, and similar tri­via. We don’t often discuss our deepest concerns; how often do we engage in a conversation about the purpose of life? It’s not that few persons care about life’s meaning; everyone wants to know what it’s all about. Conversations about the purpose of life are rare because one difficult question leads to an­other and no one likes to admit he’s stumped.

Why do we need a purpose in life anyway? Should not life, after all, be lived spontaneously and ad­venturously? Let the philosophers think about life; the rest of us are content to live it! But can we live life to the full—and not merely exist—unless our lives have direc­tion? The effort to discover the purpose of life is to provide us with a goal, lacking which we are hopelessly lost. No wind serves him who has no destined port, runs an old proverb.

You own a clock to tell the time, a pen to write with, a chair to sit on. Catalogue your possessions and isn’t it true that every one of them is owned to some purpose? When something has served its purpose—your purpose really —you discard it. Things which do not serve some purpose of ours are without value to us; but what purpose do we serve? We don’t value any object except as it serves some purpose, and a man will not value his own life unless he discovers a genuine purpose for living. The higher level his pur­pose, the more will he value the days of his life.

Let’s pose a basic question: Why do we need anything at all? In imagination, abandon all your possessions, then observe what needs come first to the fore. Be­fore the day is out we’ll experience discomfort and perhaps pain; hunger pangs and the sharp edge of the north wind make it clear that our primary survival needs are for food, clothing, and shelter. If you wish to go on living, old mother nature doesn’t offer you any alternatives at this level; meet these primary needs or die! But once these needs are met and your survival assured, then you are confronted by the need to find something to do with your life that will give meaning to survival by challenging your powers and drawing out the best that is in you.

Some men have said that the noblest purpose in life is to serve our fellow man. Suppose someone dedicated to the ideal of serving others knocked on your door say­ing, "I have decided that I know what is best for you. You are making some horrible mistakes in your life and I have come to con­vert you to the correct way of living." Such a caller would get a cold reception. Every man has a right to live his own life, and men whose professed purpose it is to serve others deny this right to those others. Besides, the man who is busy serving others cannot be engaged in his own self-improve­ment. And if his own self is un­improved, how can he improve others?

There are many choices open to anyone who tries to select the best purpose in life. Choice itself is the foundation of every such purpose; life would be meaningless in the absence of any choice. If some bureaucrat had the power to de­cide how you should think and act in every situation, there would be nothing in your life you could call your own, not even your life pur­pose.

The greatest opportunity in life given to man by his Creator is free will—the liberty to choose what he likes to do and reject what he does not like to do. Many men let their lives be governed by their likes and dislikes. However, what a man likes to do and what is right are not always identical, as I shall demonstrate.

Children at play will always choose what they like to do. Watchful mothers forbid their children to play with electricity, matches, poisonous drugs, and other harmful substances because the consequences can be injurious or even fatal, no matter how much the child may enjoy such play. One of the aspects of growing to ma­turity is a recognition that our ac­tions have consequences for which we are responsible.

Many men believe the circum­stances in their lives occur by luck or chance. Such men deny that cause and effect operate in the universe. It is self-evident that a man is free to choose what he likes to do, but he cannot choose the consequences of his actions. These are determined by the na­ture of things.

For example, a man is free to touch a red-hot stove with his bare finger and he is free to tell lies to all of his friends, but he is not free to choose the results. His finger will get burnt and his friends will despise him for his unt***hs. The results of these ac­tions and of every other action in life are determined by the natural laws, whether man likes these re­sults or not. His likes and dislikes will not turn his mistakes into virtues.

What is a law of nature, any­how? The laws of nature, the laws of God, the laws of Creation are simply phrases used to describe the way things are and the way things work. The laws of nature cannot be canceled, bribed, or evaded. If you seek liberty, good health, or success in any other worthy endeavor, look for the laws of nature underlying all things. As I see it, man’s chief purpose in life is to discover the laws of nature so he can harmonize his ac­tions with them and achieve good results in wh**ever he wishes to do with his life. Such a purpose in life excludes no one. It is open to everyone, no matter what his circumstances may be.

By seeking the laws of nature in all things, a man best serves God, his fellow men, himself, and the cause of liberty.

By: Stanley Yankus

(Mr. Yankus moved to Australia from Michi­gan in protest against government intervention in agriculture, but knows that it is not a sufficient purpose for his life.)
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The meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven!

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Apr 25, 2019 12:04:27   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
The meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven!


Isn’t that the desired destination after life?

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Apr 25, 2019 12:28:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Isn’t that the desired destination after life?


So are you going to wait until you die to begin your journey to reach your desired final end?

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Apr 25, 2019 12:41:39   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
So are you going to wait until you die to begin your journey to reach your desired final end?


Surely not. I aim to live a life worthy of heaven, sure, but live a full well rounded life, bettering myself in all facets, with hopes of having a positive influence with those I interact with.

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Apr 25, 2019 13:27:15   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Surely not. I aim to live a life worthy of heaven, sure, but live a full well rounded life, bettering myself in all facets, with hopes of having a positive influence with those I interact with.


Then you must agree that the entire meaning of purpose of life is to live a life whose meaning and purpose is to attain heaven. This is a very simple statement yet huge in it's complexity and content. It is not a statement of my own creation but of those ancients much wiser than myself.

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Apr 25, 2019 13:47:09   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
Then you must agree that the entire meaning of purpose of life is to live a life whose meaning and purpose is to attain heaven. This is a very simple statement yet huge in it's complexity and content. It is not a statement of my own creation but of those ancients much wiser than myself.


I am not all dismissive of the statement, and I do agree, merely saying it is but one piece of the puzzle. I also see your point, if I’m correct in my understanding, your saying it is the whole puzzle, no?

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Apr 25, 2019 14:04:26   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
I am not all dismissive of the statement, and I do agree, merely saying it is but one piece of the puzzle. I also see your point, if I’m correct in my understanding, your saying it is the whole puzzle, no?


It is indeed the whole. I, personally, cannot begin to grasp the enormity of such a simple statement. Fortunately, I do not believe it is a cup that all are capable to fill full or even need to, but blessed is he who so seeks. The beginning, of course, is to state the objective.....the meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven!

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Apr 25, 2019 14:16:20   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
It is indeed the whole. I, personally, cannot begin to grasp the enormity of such a simple statement. Fortunately, I do not believe it is a cup that all are capable to fill full or even need to, but blessed is he who so seeks. The beginning, of course, is to state the objective.....the meaning and purpose of life is to attain heaven!


Well said, Mike. I guess I was looking at the multiplicities as singular/individual unto themselves, either way, I find us meeting at the same place in the end. Thank you for the discussion.

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Apr 25, 2019 14:42:38   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Well said, Mike. I guess I was looking at the multiplicities as singular/individual unto themselves, either way, I find us meeting at the same place in the end. Thank you for the discussion.


These things are better understood by the aesthetic living the contemplative life in a hovel in the desert subsisting on a diet of salt, bread and water consumed in prayer such as did St. Anthony the Great. But all those who seek get vivid glimpses from time to time.

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Apr 25, 2019 15:03:08   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
padremike wrote:
These things are better understood by the aesthetic living the contemplative life in a hovel in the desert subsisting on a diet of salt, bread and water consumed in prayer such as did St. Anthony the Great. But all those who seek get vivid glimpses from time to time.


Very true. And that extends to the part about being a positive influence with whom they interact. If they’re living in a hovel in the desert, they’ll only interact with those who happen by them, as opposed to living life, interacting with whom they happen by, providing a chance to share those glimpses with a greater number of people, a chance at bettering their fellow man. It is a big onion to peel, my friend.

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