Is Obama a t*****r?????...
Apr 29, 2019 16:19:42 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
JIM BETHEA wrote:
Better stop reading those comic books...lol
Believe me. I have way more stats on SS than I ever wanted.
Apr 29, 2019 17:30:28 #
Don't know when you started but the preludes to our present Soc Sec started in the 1800s ~ Many states ran their own types ~~ America had a "social security" program in the form of Civil War pensions since 1862, this precedent did not extend itself to the general society. The expansion of these types of benefit programs to the general population, under Social Security
Pres Hoover "re-tooled" what he was calling volunteerism" on a massive scale just after the Stock Market crash of '29 and he thought this would solve the problems of the Depression ~ Then came FDR the 2nd puppet of the Euro Elitest after crooked Woodrow Wilson ~ FDR was going to put people to work at the price of selling out America ~ His trick was "social insurance" that he was told to test drive around 1932 to see how the people would respond ~ FDR was actually the one that promoted & signed off on the Soc Sec Act 1935 ~ As much as FDR wanted to save face, because he was adding massive gov projects left & right and digging a financial whole that we are probably still paying interest on!! Anyway within a year or FDRs plan was on life-support and had to borrow money to keep it afloat ~
The Euro Elitist were more than glad to fund FDR's new Social Insurance aka Soc Sec Act, because they had jus stolen all of the personal gold in the US just 2 or 3 prior ~ Hell our social security programs have been "sliced & diced" over the years to fit the fit that was needed at the time ~ It was actually supposed to be a trust, which should have trillions and trillions, however, once it became a major part of the Health & Human Services it started bleeding severely once again ~ Too many deadbeats living off of the working class ~ and now the Dem [now socialist party] want to BRING THEM ALL IN..don't worry if they can't read or write in their own native languages ~ we need them for our HUMANITY CAUSES ~
These Humanity Causes are orders attempting to be forced upon us all by the UN ~ Hell the UN now controls our birth certificate issuances and is now trying to take our guns away ~ Trump is 110% correct ~ We need to get the hell away from this "den of thieves"...
Sorry to burst your bubble about the Soc Sec, but over the years I have had to break the news to many that the Federal Reserve and IRS a privately owned corporations parading around as being called "GSE" meaning the taxpayers support both of them ~ I have also had to break some of my close friends' bubbles about their banking businesses ~ One of my good friends was 2 years from completing his 20 yrs as president of one of our local banks when I had to explain how the banks don't have their customer's original promissory notes ~ He adamantly contended that they are held in their home office!! When I asked him could we ride up to the home office and pick up a friend of mines title and note if I paid their balance off tomorrow ~~ Poor buddy: he said we have never done this before, we normally get these documents back within 30 days, but we give them a copy when they pay their mortgage off ~ Next I had to explain how the scheme worked that was causing this 30 day or so delay ~ I told him that the home office picks someone [anyone and appoints them VP for today] then has them sign a court document called "Lost Title" and request that the judge signs an Order of permission so that the Recorder of the Deeds can issue a new set of documents ~ They cannot find them because they were most likely sold into a pool and sold as a "package" on Wall Street before the ink dried on the originals ~ They can't legally buy them back and and if they did a thorough forensics auditing, if ever contested, would expose their fraud...
I am so accustomed to people unknowingly, not knowing the Big Picture in so many of the schemes, however one can only know what they are taught ~ Ever notice that every once in a while the IRS has to have these news reporters reporting on someone where the IRS has seized their records from home or office, but there is either FBI or ATF agents involved?? This is because the IRS has no enforcement powers other than just a few agents and they can only enforce issues in the petroleum industry ~~ Just because they say the icing & decorations look great doesn't mean that there's a real cake underneath ~ [Sorry About The Facts]
Pres Hoover "re-tooled" what he was calling volunteerism" on a massive scale just after the Stock Market crash of '29 and he thought this would solve the problems of the Depression ~ Then came FDR the 2nd puppet of the Euro Elitest after crooked Woodrow Wilson ~ FDR was going to put people to work at the price of selling out America ~ His trick was "social insurance" that he was told to test drive around 1932 to see how the people would respond ~ FDR was actually the one that promoted & signed off on the Soc Sec Act 1935 ~ As much as FDR wanted to save face, because he was adding massive gov projects left & right and digging a financial whole that we are probably still paying interest on!! Anyway within a year or FDRs plan was on life-support and had to borrow money to keep it afloat ~
The Euro Elitist were more than glad to fund FDR's new Social Insurance aka Soc Sec Act, because they had jus stolen all of the personal gold in the US just 2 or 3 prior ~ Hell our social security programs have been "sliced & diced" over the years to fit the fit that was needed at the time ~ It was actually supposed to be a trust, which should have trillions and trillions, however, once it became a major part of the Health & Human Services it started bleeding severely once again ~ Too many deadbeats living off of the working class ~ and now the Dem [now socialist party] want to BRING THEM ALL IN..don't worry if they can't read or write in their own native languages ~ we need them for our HUMANITY CAUSES ~
These Humanity Causes are orders attempting to be forced upon us all by the UN ~ Hell the UN now controls our birth certificate issuances and is now trying to take our guns away ~ Trump is 110% correct ~ We need to get the hell away from this "den of thieves"...
Sorry to burst your bubble about the Soc Sec, but over the years I have had to break the news to many that the Federal Reserve and IRS a privately owned corporations parading around as being called "GSE" meaning the taxpayers support both of them ~ I have also had to break some of my close friends' bubbles about their banking businesses ~ One of my good friends was 2 years from completing his 20 yrs as president of one of our local banks when I had to explain how the banks don't have their customer's original promissory notes ~ He adamantly contended that they are held in their home office!! When I asked him could we ride up to the home office and pick up a friend of mines title and note if I paid their balance off tomorrow ~~ Poor buddy: he said we have never done this before, we normally get these documents back within 30 days, but we give them a copy when they pay their mortgage off ~ Next I had to explain how the scheme worked that was causing this 30 day or so delay ~ I told him that the home office picks someone [anyone and appoints them VP for today] then has them sign a court document called "Lost Title" and request that the judge signs an Order of permission so that the Recorder of the Deeds can issue a new set of documents ~ They cannot find them because they were most likely sold into a pool and sold as a "package" on Wall Street before the ink dried on the originals ~ They can't legally buy them back and and if they did a thorough forensics auditing, if ever contested, would expose their fraud...
I am so accustomed to people unknowingly, not knowing the Big Picture in so many of the schemes, however one can only know what they are taught ~ Ever notice that every once in a while the IRS has to have these news reporters reporting on someone where the IRS has seized their records from home or office, but there is either FBI or ATF agents involved?? This is because the IRS has no enforcement powers other than just a few agents and they can only enforce issues in the petroleum industry ~~ Just because they say the icing & decorations look great doesn't mean that there's a real cake underneath ~ [Sorry About The Facts]
Apr 29, 2019 17:30:38 #
JIM BETHEA wrote:
How could anyone be so stupid to even think that P... (show quote)
a Roast is some kind of meat in a pot hopefully well cooked - which all the attendees, their brains are missing or in the pot cooked and since none of us wants the WASTING DISEASE we do not partake. Trump is much wiser than his competition.
Apr 29, 2019 17:52:13 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
You didn’t say preludes. Your right SS was passed by FDR. My figures are correct. Don’t know why you are arguing.
JIM BETHEA wrote:
Don't know when you started but the preludes to ou... (show quote)
Apr 30, 2019 07:09:26 #
JFlorio wrote:
Your facts are way off. Just saying. Im a certified Federal SS advisor so I know what I'm talking about. It's simple math. When SS first started there were 163 workers to every one person drawing SS. Now it's down to three workers per person drawing and people living much longer.
Correct me where needed but isn’t it also true that Reagan enacted a payroll tax hike to prepare for the retiring baby boomers, and a surplus began to build.???
By law, the U.S. Treasury is required to take the surplus and, in exchange, issue interest accruing bonds to the Social Security trust funds. The Treasury, meanwhile, uses the cash to fund government expenses, though it has to repay the bonds whenever the Social Security commissioner wants to redeem them?? So in effect the monies paid by the workers and who are entitled to the funds is basically insured by the Treasury who has to pay via the bonds if funding is low?? Is funding really diminishing when its bond is protected by the Treasury which is really the Federal Reserve??
People live longer, poor planning and consideration of growth and all those out of work, not paying their tax didn’t help either....
Do you, Jim, believe SS funds will cease by 2035 or 2036 as they claim?? I do not....
Apr 30, 2019 08:58:51 #
BIG HUGE QUESTION ~ The only confidence that I presently have is if Trump, Mulvaney & team "silent changes" are successful in getting us back on some form of "sound money" ~~ Congress and all of their "special committees" have your same question asked of them for the past 30 years, yet they always find ways to "wiggly out" of providing anything but their usual "babble" ~ Congress loves using "private money" because it just another $100 billion here and there and it can be tagged onto our hypothetical "national debt" and let the next Congress figure it out!! If our Constitutional & lawful monetary system had not been hijacked, then Congress would have to formulate some sort of "repayment plan" for every dollar they appropriate to spend ~ If Congress was restrained to "public money" / "Constitutional money" then they could not create all of their "pork barrel" spending that goes to implement contracts to friends & bridges to nowhere, which feeds their donors their taxpayer-funded repayments.
SOUND MONEY: Even if Trump is successful in making a revolutionary change back to sound money, with some sort of extenuating methods which would allow some form of the "plastic card world" to intermingle then this would be a great start in reigning in our gov's drunken sailor spendings!! However, the taxpayers cannot support the millions of deadbeats and this present open borders insanity. Just try to fathom 100,000 i******s in just last month???? Damn this is 9 times larger than the same town I grew up in!! Next, add the "change migration clause" into this mix and it's becoming more like a mult-level pyramid marketing flow chart. Immigration "free bees" cost the taxpayers $134 Billion in 2016 and it's probably at least another 50% higher for 2017 but none of the Dems [now socialist party] even wants to talk about this part???
That's about as good of an answer as I can give at this time!! It takes a lot of people working and paying loads of taxes to even imagine how to calculate even an estimate of what our social securtiy would look in 10-20 years!! Once social security [an insurance trust fund] was converted over under the umbrella of the HHS [entitlements of welfare & free stuff programs] a palm reader pschics' predictions are probably as good as anything coming out of Congress!!
SOUND MONEY: Even if Trump is successful in making a revolutionary change back to sound money, with some sort of extenuating methods which would allow some form of the "plastic card world" to intermingle then this would be a great start in reigning in our gov's drunken sailor spendings!! However, the taxpayers cannot support the millions of deadbeats and this present open borders insanity. Just try to fathom 100,000 i******s in just last month???? Damn this is 9 times larger than the same town I grew up in!! Next, add the "change migration clause" into this mix and it's becoming more like a mult-level pyramid marketing flow chart. Immigration "free bees" cost the taxpayers $134 Billion in 2016 and it's probably at least another 50% higher for 2017 but none of the Dems [now socialist party] even wants to talk about this part???
That's about as good of an answer as I can give at this time!! It takes a lot of people working and paying loads of taxes to even imagine how to calculate even an estimate of what our social securtiy would look in 10-20 years!! Once social security [an insurance trust fund] was converted over under the umbrella of the HHS [entitlements of welfare & free stuff programs] a palm reader pschics' predictions are probably as good as anything coming out of Congress!!
Apr 30, 2019 09:18:25 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
lindajoy wrote:
Correct me where needed but isn’t it also true tha... (show quote)
you are correct. SS is solvent through 2035. It actually was 2034 but Trumps tax cuts stimulated the economy enough that more workers have been paying in. After 2035 it is predicted that without changes SS will be able to only pay out around 77% of estimated benefit. By Law SS can't go in the red so any monies taken out basically are repaid with bonds and or I.O.U's.
Apr 30, 2019 09:20:54 #
JIM BETHEA wrote:
BIG HUGE QUESTION ~ The only confidence that I pre... (show quote)
I donot believe anybody knows if and when the SS Funds will all be gone because of the "shell game" that has been played for over 80 years. They have so many sets of books and I donot believe any of them show the real T***H.
Apr 30, 2019 09:26:09 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
JIM BETHEA wrote:
BIG HUGE QUESTION ~ The only confidence that I pre... (show quote)
Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.
Apr 30, 2019 09:52:29 #
JFlorio wrote:
you are correct. SS is solvent through 2035. It actually was 2034 but Trumps tax cuts stimulated the economy enough that more workers have been paying in. After 2035 it is predicted that without changes SS will be able to only pay out around 77% of estimated benefit. By Law SS can't go in the red so any monies taken out basically are repaid with bonds and or I.O.U's.
Utoh, you mean like slatt and badbobby’s IOUs??? We are surely in trouble~~
Only 77%, wow!!! Just about the time I will qualify for benefits, you too.. I want what I paid in and just let me invest it.. Good Grief, Jim!! I’d give it to you to invest for me and be rich for sure!! They will never do that because they need our surplus funding to sustain their erratic and irresponsible spending habits...
What changes can correct this in your opinion??
Apr 30, 2019 09:53:12 #
JFlorio wrote:
Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history.
Bingoooooooooo!!!!!!! And Amen too!!
Apr 30, 2019 09:56:07 #
Apr 30, 2019 10:08:17 #
Not intending to sound like gloom & doom but another major key factor in the Soc Sec & the mixing of it with HHS is that many of the "free bee" programs are supported/funded by the sale of Treasury bonds and selling our US dollars, which China & India have been buying by the truckloads ~ Problem with this is that the Rothschilds have allowed China to become a member of their IMF and this "cozy relationship" allows China to use SDRs instead of our US dollars for international t***sfers, paying, buying etc ~ If China were to even start cutting back their buying of our "funny money" even by 50% it would/could start crippling our present "giveaway programs" ~ If they completely stopped all of a sudden then some of the Bon Bon Jerry Springer TV viewers would have to get off their asses!!
Apr 30, 2019 10:17:14 #
"jflorio" BUY Mexican silver 1 oz coins ~ Mexico just discovered millions of pounds of silver and is coining them in "Libertads" ~ easy to trade and they can be purchased at "spot silver prices" ~~ And if this solar systems get traction, then there will be a massive demand for silver and I think silver could go X5 times ~ last I checked these coins were about $16.50 per ounce coin...NOT LEGAL OR FINANCIAL ADVICE..lol
Apr 30, 2019 10:29:39 #
JIM BETHEA wrote:
"jflorio" BUY Mexican silver 1 oz coins ~ Mexico just discovered millions of pounds of silver and is coining them in "Libertads" ~ easy to trade and they can be purchased at "spot silver prices" ~~ And if this solar systems get traction, then there will be a massive demand for silver and I think silver could go X5 times ~ last I checked these coins were about $16.50 per ounce coin...NOT LEGAL OR FINANCIAL ADVICE..lol
Cute!! Sounds promising all kidding aside~~
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